Zem Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 ^Has that happened on any B&M? Not that I know of, and I doubt it will. Parks in Japan that can afford a B&M typically have fairly good maintenance.
Ultimate Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 ^Has that happened on any B&M? If I remember correctly, a chunk of metal flew off Swarm.
A.J. Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 In all honesty, it's getting more and more difficult for me to figure out what is real and what is PR when it comes to Merlin.
Schrecken Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 I'd have to agree with those who mentioned Vortex at CGA - I rode it way back in 99' and was pretty awful then. I can't imagine how much worse it's gotten in the years since then. Of all the B&M types, I'd say one of the stand-ups (if not Vortex) over all would be the best candidates to either be scrapped or sold to a park outside of the US (but of course, if sold to another park it isn't really defunct). However, that might be a while, because while the stand-up is clearly no longer in fashion for enthusiasts, it still draws in the GP (as in the scrap iron re-location to SFA). As for Time Machine/Led Zeppelin, that would depend on how long it sits and how much (or how little) maintenance it gets as to whether it would be scrapped or sold. It would be a real shame to see it scraped (I didn't ride it and apparently it wasn't that great) simply because it saw so little action. In other words, it would be like someone buying a brand new car and only driving it a couple thousand miles, and then letting it sit and rust and fall apart. Considering the apparent long life span and reliability of a B&M coaster, I would think that TM's "low mileage" would make it worth even more on the used coaster market (that is, if the park owners ever decide to sell it).
markysharky17 Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 I can't see the Incredible Hulk leaving but I can see some major work being done on it because of its condition now. It is so rough and not very rideable, I could see B&M giving it harnesses like GateKeeper. I really don't like those harnesses but the Hulk hurts at certain parts. And I still ride it like 5x in a row if I can but it would be nice to get rid of the head banging on the ride. I can see a B&M stand up being scraped soon because they do make your legs feel like jello...
azza29 Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 Of all the B&M types, I'd say one of the stand-ups (if not Vortex) over all would be the best candidates to either be scrapped or sold to a park outside of the US (but of course, if sold to another park it isn't really defunct). However, that might be a while, because while the stand-up is clearly no longer in fashion for enthusiasts, it still draws in the GP (as in the scrap iron re-location to SFA). I think as far as the standups go - most of the ones I've ridden are decent enough designs, it's more that the restraints make for an uncomfortable ride. Perhaps new trains with a vest-style OTSR rather than the current version would make them more rideable? I can't see CGA's Vortex heading anywhere soon. That park only has a handful of coasters anyway, and it's definitely not the worst one.
kailisun98 Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 Of all the B&M types, I'd say one of the stand-ups (if not Vortex) over all would be the best candidates to either be scrapped or sold to a park outside of the US (but of course, if sold to another park it isn't really defunct). However, that might be a while, because while the stand-up is clearly no longer in fashion for enthusiasts, it still draws in the GP (as in the scrap iron re-location to SFA). I think as far as the standups go - most of the ones I've ridden are decent enough designs, it's more that the restraints make for an uncomfortable ride. Perhaps new trains with a vest-style OTSR rather than the current version would make them more rideable? I can't see CGA's Vortex heading anywhere soon. That park only has a handful of coasters anyway, and it's definitely not the worst one. It's still a little better than SLCs I think. It was running pretty crappy this summer as did Kong which both gave me a Kongcussion!
TXman308 Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 I can't see the Incredible Hulk leaving but I can see some major work being done on it because of its condition now. It is so rough and not very rideable, I could see B&M giving it harnesses like GateKeeper. I really don't like those harnesses but the Hulk hurts at certain parts. And I still ride it like 5x in a row if I can but it would be nice to get rid of the head banging on the ride. I can see a B&M stand up being scraped soon because they do make your legs feel like jello... Hulk is a ride that some days isn't at its' highest potential, but I've never had a "rough" ride on it. I personally think it will be another 6-8 years before one of them leaves, and I'm betting it will be one of the stand ups.
Blatch Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 Does Batman: The Escape count? Other than that, yeah, probably one of B&M's older stand-ups. Hopefully not Time Machine, as I imagine that ride is in pretty good shape and could be used at a park like Kentucky Kingdom.
Ultimate Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 ^If we were counting Batman, I suppose the first defunct B&M would be Flashback at SFMM.
Ape Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 I don't know if its Because it was ten years ago and I was young and the ride was a bit newer but I loved incredible hulk and have great memories of it.
Midgetman82 Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 I would not, and hope to not see Kumba, of all coasters, leaving the soonest. I'd gamble any B&M that's been relocated at least once before choosing a ride that's owned by a park with a fairly good lineup of other permanent B&M's. My biggest guess would also be on Freestyle's Time Machine/Led Zep coaster. As for stand-ups, my last rides on Georgia Scorcher (2011), Riddler's Revenge (2010), and Chang (2009) were amazing, but riding Mantis this year put an immense amount of pain in my legs during it. This leaves me confused.
Dragon Khan Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 I Wonder if ageing coasters can have track parts repaired / replaced. Has every coaster a programmed "death" ? i hope not, and what gives me hope is the state Walibi's shuttle loop was in, before they decided to refurbish it. There are very old steelies still around so I'd guess B&M's are still here to stay for a bit. I really DREAD the day they'd remove my baby Dragon Khan. It's probably not for tomorrow but if they decide to dismantle it one day, I'll really be sad and in mourning for an undetermined duration... It was my first B&M ever and NEVER have I found a better one so far. Ruling my chart since 95. I'd also say one of the oldest stand ups as they tend to be rattly, but maybe this can be addressed just by changing the Rolling stock ?
b&mforever Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 Considering the first Vekoma to be defunct was Corkscrew at Alton Towers I think the B&M's have quite a while before the first one bites the dust. It was 28 years old at the time as well.
djboss302 Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) . Edited September 13, 2014 by djboss302
robbalvey Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 Considering the first Vekoma to be defunct was Corkscrew at Alton Towers What??? That's not true at all!!! I know that Walibi Belgium's Vekoma Corkscrew was removed at least 2 years before Alton Towers' and I know there must be others...
b&mforever Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Considering the first Vekoma to be defunct was Corkscrew at Alton Towers What??? That's not true at all!!! I know that Walibi Belgium's Vekoma Corkscrew was removed at least 2 years before Alton Towers' and I know there must be others... Whoops that actually the one I meant, I remember seeing the pictures of that one when it was being removed with the pieces being ripped apart.
DarienLaker Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 To quote something that I posted on another thread regarding a certain B&M stand up coaster that's about to be "squashed"! Could Mantis be the first defunct B&M coaster ever!? If Cedar Point decides to relocate Mantis to the scrapyard, then it would be the first defunct B&M coaster! But I wonder what was the first defunct Arrow coaster?
jarmor Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 If six flags can save iron wolf I'm sure mantis, if it does go, will be snatched up by some park quick! Its not half as bad as the ride people complain it is...to me anyway.
DarienLaker Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 ^O.K. so Mantis should be saved as in relocated to another park like Michigan's Adventure, Valleyfair, Darien Lake, or a Six Flags park!
Atter Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 If Cedar Point were to relocate Mantis, I'm sure it would go to another Cedar Fair park and not a Six flags park or Darien Lake.
Geauga Dog Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 What, no Worlds of Fun? The return of EXT!
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