larrygator Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I love when these topics get revived. I think about how I want to respond, then I go back and check if I had responded in the past. My opinion remains unchanged Screaming Squirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillMontu Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 A few that come to mind  -Manhattan Express, though the casino seems to have no qualms about charging a small fortune to ride -Gwazi - First few seasons and after the Millennium Flyer retrofit it was a good ride, but operations were slow and inefficient from day one and the Florida heat and humidity were not good to it. Turns out that there is a reason that wooden coasters don't work well in Florida -Vertigo at Walibi Belgium - It was a new ride for 2006, 2007, and 2008, but only operated for a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 KK- I mean who's idea was it to take a ride which was already a disaster for CP and make it bigger?? Superman The Escape-Opened a year late and never made it more than 65% up the tower until it was reprofiled in 2011. Not to mention the ride cost about $20 million in 1996, I'm sure thats close to $30 million in 2015..all for a ride that's not that thrilling (especially when it ran forwards).  Intimidator 305-Yes it's a great ride, but the GP isnt a fan of it, the ride cost millions in reprofiles, and it didnt get them the attendance increase they wanted. I'm sure if KD could do it over, they would've installed a cookie-cutter B&M hyper like Carowinds did that same year.  Re: Intimidator 305: How can you say you know how the "GP" feels about the coaster? How can you know if the park is unhappy with their attendance boost? How do you know KD even paid for the ride modifications? For all you know, Intamin hadn't delivered a coaster with the agreed upon forces, and ultimately had to deal with fixing it on their dime. I wouldn't put words into the parks mouth like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 KK- I mean who's idea was it to take a ride which was already a disaster for CP and make it bigger?? Superman The Escape-Opened a year late and never made it more than 65% up the tower until it was reprofiled in 2011. Not to mention the ride cost about $20 million in 1996, I'm sure thats close to $30 million in 2015..all for a ride that's not that thrilling (especially when it ran forwards).  Intimidator 305-Yes it's a great ride, but the GP isnt a fan of it, the ride cost millions in reprofiles, and it didnt get them the attendance increase they wanted. I'm sure if KD could do it over, they would've installed a cookie-cutter B&M hyper like Carowinds did that same year.  Re: Intimidator 305: How can you say you know how the "GP" feels about the coaster? How can you know if the park is unhappy with their attendance boost? How do you know KD even paid for the ride modifications? For all you know, Intamin hadn't delivered a coaster with the agreed upon forces, and ultimately had to deal with fixing it on their dime. I wouldn't put words into the parks mouth like that.  I think Cedar Fair's relationship with Intamin (or lack thereof) since i305 speaks for itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike541x Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Drachen Fire-BGW didn't intend to have a ride operate for 6 and half years only for it to shut down and turn into a giant lawn ornament for another 4 years, then to have it torn down without any kind of modifications to at least give it a second chance. Shame too since this ride looked great (plus Arrow loopers don't really bother me at all). Â Son Of Beast-The fact that GCI said that this was the craziest thing anyone has asked them to do is saying something. I'm sure they don't regret not building it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Fine, you win. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 KK- I mean who's idea was it to take a ride which was already a disaster for CP and make it bigger?? Superman The Escape-Opened a year late and never made it more than 65% up the tower until it was reprofiled in 2011. Not to mention the ride cost about $20 million in 1996, I'm sure thats close to $30 million in 2015..all for a ride that's not that thrilling (especially when it ran forwards).  Intimidator 305-Yes it's a great ride, but the GP isnt a fan of it, the ride cost millions in reprofiles, and it didnt get them the attendance increase they wanted. I'm sure if KD could do it over, they would've installed a cookie-cutter B&M hyper like Carowinds did that same year.  Re: Intimidator 305: How can you say you know how the "GP" feels about the coaster? How can you know if the park is unhappy with their attendance boost? How do you know KD even paid for the ride modifications? For all you know, Intamin hadn't delivered a coaster with the agreed upon forces, and ultimately had to deal with fixing it on their dime. I wouldn't put words into the parks mouth like that.  I think Cedar Fair's relationship with Intamin (or lack thereof) since i305 speaks for itself... They're not buying Intamin doesn't mean they are done with Intamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Even though I never had the chance to ride it, I'm going to say the Rocket Rods at Disneyland. This sounded like a great idea at the time--a high-speed trip through Tomorrorland; then budget cuts and technical issues slapped Disney in the face. Now they're left with an ugly track and no Peoplemover.  Drachen Fire-BGW didn't intend to have a ride operate for 6 and half years only for it to shut down and turn into a giant lawn ornament for another 4 years, then to have it torn down without any kind of modifications to at least give it a second chance. Shame too since this ride looked great (plus Arrow loopers don't really bother me at all).  They did reprofile Drachen Fire, but too late--the damage was already done. Edited December 11, 2015 by cfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 KK- I mean who's idea was it to take a ride which was already a disaster for CP and make it bigger?? Superman The Escape-Opened a year late and never made it more than 65% up the tower until it was reprofiled in 2011. Not to mention the ride cost about $20 million in 1996, I'm sure thats close to $30 million in 2015..all for a ride that's not that thrilling (especially when it ran forwards).  Intimidator 305-Yes it's a great ride, but the GP isnt a fan of it, the ride cost millions in reprofiles, and it didnt get them the attendance increase they wanted. I'm sure if KD could do it over, they would've installed a cookie-cutter B&M hyper like Carowinds did that same year.  Re: Intimidator 305: How can you say you know how the "GP" feels about the coaster? How can you know if the park is unhappy with their attendance boost? How do you know KD even paid for the ride modifications? For all you know, Intamin hadn't delivered a coaster with the agreed upon forces, and ultimately had to deal with fixing it on their dime. I wouldn't put words into the parks mouth like that.  I think Cedar Fair's relationship with Intamin (or lack thereof) since i305 speaks for itself... [attachment=0]Frank-Underwood-Eye-roll-GIF.gif[/attachment]They're not buying Intamin doesn't mean they are done with Intamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike541x Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 They did reprofile Drachen Fire, but too late--the damage was already done. Â Duh, I completely forgot about the removal of the corkscrew. But yes regardless, I don't think there was anything else Busch could've done to save it (without throwing in more money into it which they already did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneH Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 The pilgrims plunge at HW was only open for 5 years and because of it the put hyena falls in a really dumb location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkFunk Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Ringracer is the obvious pick to me in that it mechanically was a failure and also dragged down The Ring into bankruptcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk_mamba Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 *Hypersonic XLC- Kings Dominion should have know it would be a bust b/c they brought the prototype. It didn't last long. Â *Roller Soaker- Hershey had a good idea, it just never made sense in actuality. It ended up being a bad coaster and water ride. Â *Stratosphere Coaster- Another grand idea-- building a roller coaster on a tower 1000 ft in the air but it was the most boring dry coaster ever. Â Â **Side note I wonder when people on this board mention SFA's staff and visitors in such a negative light what they really means? The park is not perfect but when I see comments like that they feel racist and just coded language for too many people black people work and visit SFA. Just a feeling/vibe I get.*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellynn4 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Windjammer Surf Racers and Son of Beast are two of the biggest that come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoB Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Definitely for the UK - Smiler, while the bug accident was human error it has had countless issues in the past and is a rough, badly made and not very good ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 The Chiller at Great Adventure. Â Leave it to Six Flags to buy a ride that they don't have a enough electricity to operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 ^Zoominjoro-El-Toro (or however you spell it): Drop of Doom, also at Great Adventure... Leave it to six flags to build a ride, only to find out the building code won't allow them to run it as marketed. Â Twisted Colossus's Dueling feature... Leave it to Six Flags to build a coaster they know they can't duel due to sh**y operations. Â Ednor at La Ronde (and SLCs in General)... Leave it to Six Flags to build an SLC in a park that already has a BTR clone, making one of the only surviving rides from astroworld an SLC. Â Notice a theme here??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strz Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 ^Zoominjoro-El-Toro (or however you spell it): Drop of Doom, also at Great Adventure...Leave it to six flags to build a ride, only to find out the building code won't allow them to run it as marketed. Â Twisted Colossus's Dueling feature... Leave it to Six Flags to build a coaster they know they can't duel due to sh**y operations. Â Ednor at La Ronde (and SLCs in General)... Leave it to Six Flags to build an SLC in a park that already has a BTR clone, making one of the only surviving rides from astroworld an SLC. Â Notice a theme here??? Â Clearly a SF Season Pass holder.....and my guess is a shareholder too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strz Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Batman and Robin: The Chiller, SFGA Â I loved the concept, look and launch.....but doomed from the start! I give them credit to make numerous changes to make it right, but can't blame them for tearing it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Twisted Colossus's Dueling feature... Leave it to Six Flags to build a coaster they know they can't duel due to sh**y operations. Â That's what happens when you copy from China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genx24 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Kingda Ka. Multi-million dollar gimmick that bleeds GAdv's ride budget dry year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Kingda Ka. Multi-million dollar gimmick that bleeds GAdv's ride budget dry year after year. Â Can't help but wonder if this is part of the reason they haven't gotten any significant (brand new) coasters since El Toro. I mean Total Mayhem will be a solid attraction but it's still a relatively low-budget addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if it's at least part of the reason. The rumors I've heard are that Great Adventure spent $75 million combined on their '05/'06 expansions--$25 mil for Kingda Ka, $25 mil for El Toro/PDC improvements, $25 mil in Kingda Ka maintenance and running costs for the two years. Spending $75 million for the best wooden coasters (at least at the time) and an unreliable PoS is not worth the price, no matter how good El Toro is. Â **Rumor--not necessarily fact, but could be** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminousAphid Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Aww you're no fun, just trying to get people to post more as suggested in your newsletter- I think my topic had a much catchier title! Thanks for finding and merging though, if that's what you wish, I didn't see anything on the topic when I searched but I guess I didn't look hard enough  It's painfully obvious that you're trying to just get attention with all the threads you're bumping and creating. Well done. Yeah apparently if contributing to the site is attention seeking behavior, I am guilty.  I have not been on it, being a newbie to this whole thing, but I would have to disagree that KK was a huge mistake-- they would have just eaten the loss and taken it out if that were true. They must see something in it since it's still there.  When it first opened it was one of the most covered roller coasters in the world because 400 feet/100mph was unheard of back then. I can attest to this (again I have not ridden it) because I distinctly remember seeing programs on science channel where they went on this ride and watched pennies "float" as they crested and fell back down. It was a big deal, that ride was amazing!  Sorry, didn't mean to ruin your fun, but if it means anything, I also like your title better. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Aww you're no fun, just trying to get people to post more as suggested in your newsletter- I think my topic had a much catchier title! Thanks for finding and merging though, if that's what you wish, I didn't see anything on the topic when I searched but I guess I didn't look hard enough  It's painfully obvious that you're trying to just get attention with all the threads you're bumping and creating. Well done. Actually, he's doing a GREAT job of helping the forum and contributing to the discussion. When was the last time you created a new topic to help the forums thrive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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