Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

[Bolliger&Mabillard]

I'd find it hilarious if the trains turn out to have Mattehorn-esque seatbelts...

[downunder]

^I'd be jumping for joy if that was the case. Knowing our luck they'll bring back the SFNE SROS leg irons.

[odene497]

^Those didn't bother me so much. I dislike what Bizarro has now, the shape of the pad and how it fits on your lap makes airtime painful. I'm fine with this having OTSRs, just preferably the more flexible type over the more solid material.

[KDcoasterMAN]

Brian, Clint's Photo Fiend, denied the fact that the "mysterious" tarped object was in fact a train.

 

Also, I believe they would arrive in more of a manor such as the Carowinds trains did. Via shipping container.

[kingsdominionlvr]

Kings Dominion seems to have a site up for Planet Snoopy, unfortunately, it really does not have anything on the names of the rides. Also, they now do have a section of the attractions page for Planet Snoopy, but it does not have the re-theme names either. Here is the website, if you are interested, like I said though it does not really have anything on their about the ride names.

 

http://planetsnoopy.com/kingsdominion/

[jarmor]

Man, carowinds gets the better intimidator (INTAMINhater ) and they were even quick to get the attractions up for planet snoopy for all the eager, waiting kids!

 

Get on the ball kings dominion!

[Skycoastin Steve]

^You can't truly know which Intimidator is better until you ride them both.

[andyuk200523]

Just to take the other road here, any chance that could actually be a dummy car to use for the pull through??? I believe it was reported recently the Pull Through is going to be happening soon, and I am fairly certain that normally, coaster cars aren't delivered seperatly, they are delivered in a whole train (not necessarily on the same pallet mind you)

 

Just my 2p's worth

[Bolliger&Mabillard]

^Pull throughs are usually done with the first car of the train, I don't think they fabricate a car just for the pull through. All the one's Ive seen are just done with a crane and one or two cars.

[Blythy]

mega structures for kingda ka showed a wooden mockup with a radius arm to check clearance.

[KDcoasterMAN]

If the KD crew does the pull through like Mavericks...

 

...it would look likt this.

 

From the Maverick Constrution gallery.

 

http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/park/rides/coasters/maverick/?modeSet=gallery&gallery_name=construction_gallery

Courtesy of Cedar Point. Pull through

[themeparkman25]

If it were a Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit pull through/reach envelope test, it would like something like this.

 

Wait, that is not right. THIS is what the Rockit test looked like.

 

 

AND if you would like to reach test the love of my life, it would look like this...

 

So, I don't think you necessarily have to have a train to do a pull through to do a pull through. I also think think that pull throughs are more common when the coaster interacts with other objects such as supports, track and buildings. I mean, I wouldn't really see it to be necessary to do a pull through on, say, Intimidator at Carowinds since there is absolutely nothing the rider could possibly hit. Albeit the test is used for a lot more than just the reach envelope. With that in mind though, wouldn't they have kept a crane on site to pull the train up the lift hill if it was in fact going to happen on this coaster?

 

Photos owned by their respective owners.

[traincrossin]

Isn't it usually just Intiman rides that do pull throughs? I don't think Diamondback at King's Island did any pull throughs, they just started testing it.

[Hercules]

^ If you look at the picture right above your post, you will notice B&M track.

[CPmaverick]

Diamondback didn't have a pull through. They just fired it up and hoped for the best.

[jarmor]

^ If you look at the picture right above your post, you will notice B&M track.

He said usually. I think pull thru's are done when there could be a clearance issue.

[JEAPUgrad]

Anybody have pull through pics of the loops for Dueling Dragons?

 

Would love to see what the safety envelope for those two coasters are.

[themeparkman25]

^^My thoughts exactly. Like I said in my previous post, I really don't see a reason to have a reach envelope test on Intimidator (carowinds) because there really is nothing the rider could hit themselves on.

 

However, when you guys say that Manta got a pull through test, it really didn't. It just had that pvc reach envelope on the wing dip, and was not seen anywhere else.

 

With that in mind, I think it is safe to say the envelope test/pull through is only executed on places where I rider could hit themselves. To my knowledge, TTD, an Intamin lol, did not receive a pull through. Nor did MF. It is rides with low(er) clearances such as Maverick or iSpeed that receive it due to their very nature. However, I think there are a couple places on i305 that will give some head choppers but again, the cranes are gone. So maybe they do a reverse pull through using the small cranes and negate the first drop. Just my two cents. Maybe they "tunnel test" it, NL style.

[Loefet]

To my knowledge, TTD, an Intamin lol, did not receive a pull through. Nor did MF.

Yes they did...

 

While doing a Pull-through the do much more than just check the reach envelope.

 

They check all the track connections, brake fins, lift hill, overall clearances between the car/wheels and the track itself, etc.

 

It's just something Intamin wants to do just to make sure that it will work the first time, instead of just hoping for the best...

[KDcoasterMAN]

I think pull throughs are necessary but totally a parks desgretion. If I'm correct, Kingda Ka only had the board used. . I would think that Intamin would "recommend" a pull-through on I305 due to its tight transitions.

[themeparkman25]

^^But why would you need a train to check that kind of stuff? I'm not trying to say you are wrong, because I don't know the exact purpose of a pull through either, but to me, it seems like all that can be done in the absence of a train. And I would certainly hope that they have all the bolts tight for track connections before they even consider putting a wheel on the track.

 

Intamin still seems to be good at doing pull throughs, turning the ride on, hoping for the best and still getting the ride valleyed.

 

^I probably sound really snooty between these two comments, but I respectfully have to disagree. The ride, at this moment, is not in the hands of the park. Intamin, in this case, won't hand the keys over to KD to run her until they believe the ride is in proper, operating condition. I do not think the park has much say in whether they want to do a pull through or not.

[Skycoastin Steve]

They had to have done a pull through on MF. There's a support that they actually had to modify at the end of the 2nd hill that was too close to the track (in fact, one rider was famous for smacking it with his hand until they modified it), the track comes kinda close to some supports during the middle portions of the island, and there are the two tunnels to worry about clearance. TTD also twists through its own structure on the way down, so there had to be some sort of clearance test there, as well.

[CPmaverick]

If you think Drop Tower is an amazing name, then your just going to love Boo Blasters on Boo Hill.

 

http://www.kingsdominion.com/attractions/category.cfm?ac_id=14

[technfxrick]

Wow where does Cedar Fair come up with this creativity. This must of taken a team of them MONTHS to come up with.

[Skycoastin Steve]

^Well, according to their creative team, it's because "so many other names are trademarked."