cfc Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Will we be having this conversation about i305 in 20 years time? Good question.
fraroc Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Classics can never be replaced, no matter how rough and painful. Since when are Wildcat, Vortex, or Anaconda considered 'classics'?!?! You see all of these B&M/Intamin coasters with multiple inversions and all of these new hi-tech looping coasters? Well, If it wasn't for coasters like the Arrow megaloopers, they would never exist. Love em or hate em, they played a big part in the coaster renaissance of the 70s, 80s and 90s. (and that I don't really mind getting beat up a little on coasters. I like it rough, does that make me weird?)
Voxelmatic Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 ^True, but even though they played an important role, that doesn't automatically make them classics. Anaconda and Kumba were two years apart, but would you consider Kumba a 'classic?'
simaticable Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 I think any coaster made before 1980 are classics.
A.J. Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 If we're talking Arrow multi-loopers, I'd consider the Cedar Point Corkscrew and the Darien Lake Viper as classics, and MAYBE one of the Six Flags triplets. Anaconda is only a few months older than I am, and I don't consider myself a classic...
fraroc Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 If we're talking Arrow multi-loopers, I'd consider the Cedar Point Corkscrew and the Darien Lake Viper as classics, and MAYBE one of the Six Flags triplets. Anaconda is only a few months older than I am, and I don't consider myself a classic... Viper is basically Betty White. Last remaining Golden Girl, last remaining Six Flags 7-inversion arrow looper. Get it?!?(insert cricket sounds here)
JRHcoasterki Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 I'm just going to say, that even if a ride is a "classic", it's going to get old, it's going to become a maintenance nightmare, and it's going to have to be scrapped at some point. So I say, why not scrap these old, rough coasters now, before they become COMPLETELY un-rideable.
simaticable Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Not all classics will get that bad. Schwarzkopfs are still wonderful coasters, and Gerstlauer is keeping the breed alive.
JRHcoasterki Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 ^ I know! I was mostly talking about Arrow coasters, sorry I didn't make it clear.
DBru Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 ^Part of the tunnel is under water level, yes. Obviously the entire tunnel isn't underwater, that would be impossible. But it would certainly make the ride more interesting.
mark549 Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 I don't think Anaconda is / was a classic ride. Rebel Yell is a classic. Loch Ness Monster is a classic.
alilstronger Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 I really hope Anaconda comes out. However, I will say I LOVE the first drop and the first loop - after that it sucks. It would be neat if they left that huge pond there and whatever they put they include that under water tunnel. I would love to see a twister woodie but that is me. I know they have 3 woodies but I can never get enough of them.
A.J. Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 They could pull a Silver Bullet and construct an inverted coaster over the water.
rcdude Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 I really don't care one way or the other about Anaconda. If it is still there next time I visit, I'll give it another ride. If it's not, I won't miss it. Although it's my favorite of the Cedar Fair Arrow Loopers I've been on, it's still not worth more than a ten or fifteen minute wait.
smallpox Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Although I enjoyed Anaconda's first drop from the Magic Seat, I found the rest of the ride pretty unbearable. What is it with all of the Arrow loopers crawling through the second half of the course after the MCBR? I think the slow speeds through the awkward coat hanger-ish turns just made the ride even worse. they didn't used to do this. the roughness has caused parks over the years to crank up the MCBR to a near complete stop, and the unfortunate upshot is the back halves are even more unfomfortable, because the banking and inversions were designed for a train traveling at a faster velocity. Anaconda didn't always crawwwwwwl through its final two corkscrews.
GigaG Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Hey, could somebody provide us with the aforementioned photoshopped pic?
Arrow Dynamics fan Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 I'm just going to say, that even if a ride is a "classic", it's going to get old, it's going to become a maintenance nightmare, and it's going to have to be scrapped at some point. So I say, why not scrap these old, rough coasters now, before they become COMPLETELY un-rideable. Why not tear down Shockwave first? It is older, it has a reputation to be rough as well, and TOGO parts must be harder to come by being that unlike in the case of Arrow having Vekoma, Chance Morgan, and S&S there isn't really an old business partner or successor of their technology.
CoasterGuy06 Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 Didn't Premier start making TOGO parts? I want to say I remember reading an article WAAAAAAY back when that they did.
fraroc Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 I'm just going to say, that even if a ride is a "classic", it's going to get old, it's going to become a maintenance nightmare, and it's going to have to be scrapped at some point. So I say, why not scrap these old, rough coasters now, before they become COMPLETELY un-rideable. Why not tear down Shockwave first? It is older, it has a reputation to be rough as well, and TOGO parts must be harder to come by being that unlike in the case of Arrow having Vekoma, Chance Morgan, and S&S there isn't really an old business partner or successor of their technology. Actually, Shockwave is not NEARLY as bad as I thought it was going to be. It was actually more tolerable than Stinger at Dorney. I don't know whether they did some work on it or I'm just desensitized because I like SLCs and Boomerangs.
netdvn Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 I'm just going to say, that even if a ride is a "classic", it's going to get old, it's going to become a maintenance nightmare, and it's going to have to be scrapped at some point. So I say, why not scrap these old, rough coasters now, before they become COMPLETELY un-rideable. Why not tear down Shockwave first? It is older, it has a reputation to be rough as well, and TOGO parts must be harder to come by being that unlike in the case of Arrow having Vekoma, Chance Morgan, and S&S there isn't really an old business partner or successor of their technology. Shockwave actually has a lot of spare parts that can be used, plus it's not very maintenance heavy like some rides are. Don't expect it to be going for a few more years.
stashua123 Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 I'm just going to say, that even if a ride is a "classic", it's going to get old, it's going to become a maintenance nightmare, and it's going to have to be scrapped at some point. So I say, why not scrap these old, rough coasters now, before they become COMPLETELY un-rideable. Why not tear down Shockwave first? It is older, it has a reputation to be rough as well, and TOGO parts must be harder to come by being that unlike in the case of Arrow having Vekoma, Chance Morgan, and S&S there isn't really an old business partner or successor of their technology. Shockwave has one thing that has kept it alive. King Cobras Trains. Hey at least their put to a good cause.
coasterbill Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 When we went to East Coast Bash there was a huge line of people waiting for Shockwave to open in the morning and the line was all the way down the ramp pretty much all day. I'm not going to judge a ride's popularity on one day but it seems like people really like that terrible coaster. For some reason people seem to love stand up coasters in general.
Voxelmatic Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 When we went to East Coast Bash there was a huge line of people waiting for Shockwave to open in the morning and the line was all the way down the ramp pretty much all day. I'm not going to judge a ride's popularity on one day but it seems like people really like that terrible coaster. For some reason people seem to love stand up coasters in general. Last time I went, I actually enjoyed it... but it was a walk on, so no idea.
cfc Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) So, is Shockwave "popular," or just low capacity? It is an unusual ride, which would make people curious, but don't forget the slow operations. Edited November 10, 2012 by cfc
DJeXeL Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 ^To be fair, the trains take 3 minutes to get to the top of the lift....
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