Haymaker Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Sk610 said: Screamscape is reporting that Six Flags corporate is going through some restructuring where the park presidents will report to the CEO and have more say in yearly park improvements. With that being said, if you were the park president, what would you add? I would RMC predator add a true family coaster, an interactive dark ride and a frisbee/discovery. Obviously these would be over 5-6 years, but all things the park could use. I would put up the waterslide and do the Hurricane Harbor theme thats two years overdue before I start anything else. Then we have 3 large plots of land, two of which need dismantling. Then an unpopular SLC with a Frankentrain and 25 yr old paint job, and one train on our flagship ride, and a rough woodie, and....
TheAmericanKnight Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 I found this on YouTube. It's footage of Ride of Steel during it's opening year. It came up in my recommended and I had a feeling others here would appreciate this find. Footage of Ride of Steel from 1999 1
Haymaker Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 Not sure of the credibility of Screamscape, but they posted 2 plausible rumors and one that seems to be a stretch. 1) Predator retracking. Low hanging fruit, as thats a yearly thing. Claimed it had a small fire though. 2) Mind Eraser SBNO this year, unless they can duct tape and glue the Frankentrain back together. New train(s) were supposedly cut from the budget. Now for the stretch... Ride of Steel to be removed after this season. No plausible explanation was given for why that would happen.
swfan1988 Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Haymaker said: Now for the stretch... Ride of Steel to be removed after this season. No plausible explanation was given for why that would happen. Screamscape ( grain of salt required) said that it was because of the same reason that Mind Eraser might have to go SBNO. Needs a new train(s), and the parks true owner (EPR Properties) doesn't want to pay for it. I don't know how true the ROS rumor is, but it (and the overall decline of the park) makes me wonder if maybe EPR has other plans for the land long-term. I'm not familiar with the parks location, but is it in an area where redeveloping the land for condos or warehouses might be attractive? Maybe we should all get to Darien Lake while we can... 1
AmyUD06 Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 Meh. Let it fail. What do they even have that's worth saving? All I see are Moto Coaster, Tantrum, Silver Bullet, and Corn Popper. All easily relocated, and one less park in the middle of nowhere that's a pain to visit. 2
Haymaker Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, swfan1988 said: Screamscape ( grain of salt required) said that it was because of the same reason that Mind Eraser might have to go SBNO. Needs a new train(s), and the parks true owner (EPR Properties) doesn't want to pay for it. I don't know how true the ROS rumor is, but it (and the overall decline of the park) makes me wonder if maybe EPR has other plans for the land long-term. I'm not familiar with the parks location, but is it in an area where redeveloping the land for condos or warehouses might be attractive? Maybe we should all get to Darien Lake while we can... No, the land has no value as anything else. His ROS rumor is suspect because the ROS train is less than 10 years old. I would also assume a new train is cheaper than tearing out a coaster of that size. 1
DarienLaker Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Darien Lake is the largest amusement park the state of New York. If it were to permanently close, it would be a big loss for the state since (Upstate) New York is has a lot of low cards in their amusement park hand.
crash1984 Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 While it may seem shocking at first that Darien Lake would get rid of ROS due to needing new trains and yet invest in new trains for Mind Eraser the more I thought about it and honestly the less shocking it is. Intamin rides built in the late 1990s and 2000s were incredible but on the same token it almost seems like it gets to the point where the costs to keep said ride open is just not worth it especially when it comes to a smaller park like Darien Lake. We have already seen a similar thing play out with Volcano where it just got to the point it was better from a financial point of view for the park to just scrap it and move on. In addition to Volcano, Perilous Plunge, Tower of Terror in Austrialia, and Wicked Twister all were Intamin rides from that era and they are all gone. Plus to my knowledge we don't know what is going to happen with TTD. With an SLC though, you hear a lot of negativity about them but one thing you rarely hear about is an SLC being plagued with maintenance problems. Yes there are a few here and there but I think a lot more of this is a reflection on the park. Darien Lake could get new trains for Mind Eraser and it would be a ride that is not going to cost loads of money down the road to keep open. 1
TheAmericanKnight Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Wouldn't it make more sense to keep the park open since it will still print at least some money for them? I doubt EPR will be closing the park down. As for what crash1984 said about ROS, the more I thought about it, the more it made sense. I absolutely despise the idea of ROS leaving, sure... but it is an Intamin mega coaster from 1999 and we all saw what happened to Volcano. With that being said, why isn't the same being said about Superman Ride of Steel at Six Flags America and Superman the Ride and Six Flags New England? Is Six Flags Darien Lake just cheaper with their budget than those parks? Why aren't their rumors about their versions leaving their parks? Anyways, I'm hopeful that Ride of Steel stays at SFDL, but it wouldn't shock me either if it leaves... and that the same happens at the other parks too. These early Intamin coasters have seen better days it appears.
Haymaker Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, TheAmericanKnight said: Wouldn't it make more sense to keep the park open since it will still print at least some money for them? I doubt EPR will be closing the park down. As for what crash1984 said about ROS, the more I thought about it, the more it made sense. I absolutely despise the idea of ROS leaving, sure... but it is an Intamin mega coaster from 1999 and we all saw what happened to Volcano. With that being said, why isn't the same being said about Superman Ride of Steel at Six Flags America and Superman the Ride and Six Flags New England? Is Six Flags Darien Lake just cheaper with their budget than those parks? Why aren't their rumors about their versions leaving their parks? Anyways, I'm hopeful that Ride of Steel stays at SFDL, but it wouldn't shock me either if it leaves... and that the same happens at the other parks too. These early Intamin coasters have seen better days it appears. Its never been re-painted since it was built, so there's that. Maybe its rusting out somewhere.
anonymouscactus Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) The whole park will close before they decide to remove Ride of Steel (good news!). Or, if they do remove it ahead of its closure, then the whole park will be closing soon after anyways. Or maybe it will turn into a water park-only like Geauga Lake... Seriously though, it's in the middle of nowhere. They can't staff it. They can't maintain it. They can't afford anything in their budget. The lawsuits didn't help any. Relocating or selling the rides is probably their best option at this point. Honestly, I'd give them 2 more seasons max. Be sure to bookmark this post. I'm not glad about it, but there is no doubt this place is, and has been, dying. Edited January 23, 2022 by anonymouscactus More doom and gloom :( 1
Haymaker Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 There's a few employees on a SFDL Facebook group im in that say these rumors are straight garbage, so theres that. Time will tell of course. 1
ilyf15 Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 makes me laugh! so theoretically, they demolish a hyper coaster only (with exorbitant costs) in order not to buy a train? but who says this bullshit
thrillseeker4552 Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Haymaker said: No, the land has no value as anything else. His ROS rumor is suspect because the ROS train is less than 10 years old. I would also assume a new train is cheaper than tearing out a coaster of that size. This is what I was thinking. The park got a brand new train from Intamin in 2016, so I read that rumor and thought.... huh?
JJLehto Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Wow...sure hope this is bullshit clickbait type rumor, if not poor Darien Lake. This was their only really good coaster for near 20 years, so if this was to be axed...if I was local I'd throw quite a tantrum .........I'll see myself out 3
Haymaker Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, disownedpear said: I mean if it was Screamscape Judging by the lack of info I can find by googling this... they were very wrong lol
SteamedHams Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, disownedpear said: I mean if it was Screamscape As much as Rich can screw up a rumor, we have to remember that he has been right a lot also. I think we should wait before throwing stones.
john10693 Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Ugh, good grief ! You know, this thread was doing really well for awhile.
ricklap77 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 I doubt they will close SROS. It is the star attraction. Scrapping it would be very surprising. There are ways to fix whatever needs to be fixed.
disownedpear Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Can I throw stones yet? I suppose Screamscape really isn't the problem, but the enthusiast taking things written as rumors like gospel.
anonymouscactus Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Long term future is promising, but that's not what *I* saw on the internet... straight from the verified blue checkmark source so it must be true.... 3
swfan1988 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Six Flags can't even figure out which social account is the real one? What kind of park is this place! Did they really get their mind erased that bad... Glad that rumor is dead, hopefully the park really does have a bright future!
Haymaker Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, disownedpear said: I suppose Screamscape really isn't the problem, but the enthusiast taking things written as rumors like gospel. Where did I lend any credibility to it?
disownedpear Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Where did I say you did? it was just a general thought not directed at anyone.
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