Guy T. Koepp Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 ^Well played young man. Well played! Seriously though. If they put a train the size of a B&M flyer on this track. The lead car would be arriving at the station just as the tail car was leaving it. I still think it looks uninspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 What exactly is the purpose of a zero-car, anyway? Chasis support. Yeah but the floorless & many inverts(alpie being the exception) don't have a zero car.This design is gonna be a capacity nightmare,as anyone knows the standard flying dutchman models have horrendous capacity & load times & that's with THREE times as many cars per train as the stingray has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedten Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Just pointing out it has the steepest drop of any B&M or vekoma flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmicha Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 ^^Actually, they all do have zero cars. Only difference is that they have seats on them. http://rcdb.com/ig1.htm?picture=18 If you look at that picture, you can see that the front car is at the exact same angle as the second car, whereas each car after that is perpendicular to the track. The spacing is also noticeably different. This is because the seats on the zero car are always follow the same angle as the second car and the spacing is much more consistent than that of any other two cars on the train. This, however, could be implemented into the design of this flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacoaster Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Has anyone heard any new news regarding this ride... or any photos of the ride being open or videos in that regard? Any reviews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I've heard the ride is having major issues and may not have been opened or ever open. Hopefully someone can fill us in with more information, or we may go try and check it out on the TPR China Trip just to see what's up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacoaster Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Cool because months ago I posted a video of it testing ... I think I've heard that the park is open but I just haven't found anything about the ride its like it never existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyuk200523 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 ^^Actually, they all do have zero cars. Only difference is that they have seats on them. http://rcdb.com/ig1.htm?picture=18 If you look at that picture, you can see that the front car is at the exact same angle as the second car, whereas each car after that is perpendicular to the track. The spacing is also noticeably different. This is because the seats on the zero car are always follow the same angle as the second car and the spacing is much more consistent than that of any other two cars on the train. This, however, could be implemented into the design of this flyer. I was gonna reply without checking this out as I was fairly certain you are incorrect, but after checking it out I cannot believe it, I was wrong, I am gobsmacked that in 16 years of B&M Inverts being installed, I have never noticed the difference in angle between the front car and all of the other cars, very interesting! Thanks for pointing that out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcalicoaster Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 ^I've never been on Firehawk. I'll ride it Friday, and get back to ya. I did watch video of both, and Firehawk seems to go much faster. Guy "Untill further notice, I'll stand by what I say." Koepp I loved Firehawk! I prefer it to any of the Superman clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacoaster Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 ^ layout wise I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacoaster Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Did it EVER open? Does any one know... have any new pics or videos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbit Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 cant wait to ride it. Vekoma has lots and lots of new rollercoaster ride type... they must build more more more coasters!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Jizzman Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Here's what google spit out. Stingray Compared to the wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntweisen Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Looks like an RCT creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Behemoth_Lady_Jess Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Did it EVER open? Does any one know... have any new pics or videos? I don't think it ever opened, atleast during the TPR China trip it didn't. I don't think the park itself is even open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willh51 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I'm not 100 percent sure what to make of this, but after this review of Happy Valley, the writer talks about the Stingray. It sounds like he rode it, but it's kind of hard to say. http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftrips-n-pics.com%2F%3Fid%3D8122&sl=fr&tl=en "It requires a temperature of 15 degrees and not a fart of wind or rain to work." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airtime&Gravity Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 ^ Yes, the ride is now open, well the ride has been open since 7/18/2009, so it didn't just open. I guess it is just a bad translation, about the ride not being able to operate when it is raining or above a certain wind speed. RCDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willh51 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Thanks for the picture link, Matt. I thought I was going crazy because I had looked on RCDB in the last month and all those new pictures of it operating weren't on there and there was no indication that it was open. I see the date on them is 3/13 so they can't have been there for long. But anyway, glad it's open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniviews Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 When TPR visited Shanghai and the surrounding areas in September 2009, the subject ride was not running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 ^ Yes, the ride is now open, well the ride has been open since 7/18/2009, so it didn't just open. I guess it is just a bad translation, about the ride not being able to operate when it is raining or above a certain wind speed. I believe that technically it did (or may have) opened on 7/18/2009 but then quickly closed after that (possibly even the same day). I know that it was NOT open to the public, and had not been open to the public for some time, when we visited in September of 2009. --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 That ride just looks like about 259 different ways of horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooz Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 This ride looks amazing compared to the thier other offering. Is it just me, or the flying concept in general nowhere near as exciting as it sounded? I dont feel the sensation of flight, only the sensation of hanging by my chest. I rode Batwing and S:UF once and have no desire to ride either again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjune4991 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 That in no way looks efficient. One train with 8 seats? I see that it's a short ride, but how could it not get a long line quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 ^It's not at a 'real' park, so that would help with the line. It's more like a public park on the water with a big ferris wheel and some small rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 That ride just looks like about 259 different ways of horrible. I agree, and it is a failed ride attemot considering we have been talking about the ride for two and a half years. Vekoma seems to be getting very unlucky recently, Battlestar, this, honestly I dont think the Dragonfly concept will go over too well considering no one knows what the hell it does. It will either be like a suspenended moto coaster, and leaning forward on pony express kind of sucks. Or you will be kneeling, which is just terrible. In the end we must ask ourselves "what the hell are they thinking?" This entire ride is ridicoulas, the pacing(from a previous off ride testing video) looks horrendous, the lift looks kind of uncomfortable, the half pretzel is just pointless, and to top it off the capacity sucks. I just dont get what Vekoma's up to, and they cant afford to keep making designs that are failing cause in the last ten years we have seen a major rise in innovention from Gerstlauer and Maurer Söhne, and both companies are doing well. I mean, the Eurofighter, both companies have succesful spinning coasters, the X car is starting to do better, well see. Vekoma's days may be numbered, cause at a certain point, especially when you come down to a ride like this, qulaity is much more important than innovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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