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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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^ I don't know if it will ever be fully appreciated because of that reputation, but it's still a very nice ride. It seems more like a "conveniently there when it's hot" type of ride, and not so much a ride that the GP is going to eat right up...at least not right away. While it doesn't seem like it now, I'm sure the GP will be dying to ride it, and in turn, thankful it's there when it's 100 degrees.

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This is one of the reasons I'm against adding thrill rides every year or to. While they are a lot of fun, people begin to expect them, and they get upset if one isn't added every other season. Parks that seem to stick to schedules like that don't seem to be that great, but if thrill rides are added only every once in a while with a lot of family rides added between those times, the parks seem to be a lot better in terms of quality. I'd also be skeptical about who in the GP is complaining. I'm sure families aren't complaining about the fact that a large coaster isn't being added, but rather it's the teenagers and thrill seekers who only care about the next coaster Cedar Point builds.

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In the new press release from Kinzel,on pg. 30 of the Cedar Fair discussion, he mentions how he is committed to keeping CP's title as coaster capitol of the world in tact. With MM poised to take the crown, I would say that this is a strong suggestion that CP will be getting a new coaster probably in 2011. But it is still early, heck the 2010 ride hasn't even opened yet! I'm not going to speculate anymore than this until I see track showing up in the field next to Breakers Express.

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I find it funny that speculation has begun for the next new ride before the current new ride has even opened.

Welcome to a coaster enthusiast forum!

While we're at it, lets start discussing 2015. I'm going with the 500 foot inverted wooden looping launching coaster

 

^I guess it was just a valley. One more reason to hate opening weekend . Kudos to CP getting it running so fast.

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I was beaten to it, but Mantis was open all day, with one train operation. It began testing rather early, around 8:25, opened with the park at ten.

 

LOTS of rain today, almost non-stop from 10AM to now, got heavy around 5PM today. Lots of people in the park for Physics day (30 min wait for corkscrew AND Meanstreak!), they left in droves.

 

Raptor and Gemini never tested, Top Thrill tested one (rollback) train. Maverick and Wildcat were drowned post-10:30. MForce (opened at noonish), Magnum, Mantis, CCMR, Meanstreak and Corkscrew all ran with one train all day. Still managed 9 Magnum rides and 3 Millennium rides post 6:15(45 min shutdown for heavy rain), by that point it was non-stop rain. Exceptionally crappy day in most aspects, I still had some good fun.

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I too was at the park on Monday and hated the amount of rain that fell. The only coasters that I managed to get on was Wicked Twister and Blue Streak. We made the most of it and spent just over an hour in the Red Garter to stay out of the rain. At around 6:30 I went to get a ride on Millenium and as soon as I set foot in the station it went down for weather. So I decided to go and join my boyfriend and our daughter and have an ERT on the Dodgems. I would have to say that was the most fun I have ever had on those things. The ride ops just let us stay on it and they restarted it after each cycle was done. Normally you would not be able to do that at Cedar Point but with the rain and all, I think the ride ops just wanted us to have fun at the end of the day. By the time we left the park, I was drenched from head to toe and I am still feeling the dampness. I hope to make it there again in the near future and hopefully go on a day where there is NO RAIN in the forecast.

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Found out the exact reason why Shoot The Rapids opening day was delayed till May 29th:

 

"Shoot the Rapids also has been delayed because of an engineering problem.

 

"Basically, we had trouble with the boats," Kinzel said Monday. "It's more of an engineering problem than a safety problem."

 

"The manufacturer made the flume, and he contracted out the boats," Kinzel said. "When the boats came together, the boats didn't fit the flumes."

 

Kinzel said workers have been busy all week trying to modify the boats, which were too long and didn't go over the top of the hill properly. That can destroy the flume, he said" Link attached.

 

Can't wait to ride STR! On opening day I checked out the viewing area and it has 8 water canons, 4 for at the beginning of the first lift hill and the other 4 at the second lift hill. For a quarter you can fire one shot and get the some of the riders wet before they start the lift hill. The water canons were operating on Saturday and you will get wet on this ride!

 

 

 

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2010/05/11/front/doc4be82bf01b51e937174743.txt

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"The manufacturer made the flume, and he contracted out the boats," Kinzel said. "When the boats came together, the boats didn't fit the flumes."

 

Oops!

 

Kinzel said workers have been busy all week trying to modify the boats.

 

How do you "modify" a boat that's too long? How much could they possibly take off without affecting boat integrity? But that's why they run the place and I'm just a guest.

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I really don't understand why everyone is being so unfair and mean spirited towards Cedar Point and Intamin over this delay, yet seems to be so understanding and accommodating with Holiday World and Gravity Group over their delay.

 

You're dealing with lots of engineering tasks, heaving machinery, and HUGE projects here. They aren't putting together a desk you bought at IKEA, these are multi-million dollar investments with lots of different parties involved that all need to come together and have everything work at the same time. It's a much bigger undertaking than I think some people hear comprehend.

 

Try to have some understanding of this and don't be so quick to bash the park or their vendor over things you probably don't have a lot of expertise with.

 

If you all can be so understanding with the Holiday World issue, why do you have to be so mean and hateful towards Cedar Point?

 

I just don't get it....

 

--Robb

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^ Agreed.

 

They're delayed like 2 WEEKS. It's not like Flying Turns.

Also, they started in really good time, but from what I've heard the weather has really been against them.

 

Try to look at some of the comments at PointBuzz. It's just ridiculous how people blame Intamin and CP for this failure.

 

I think STR could be considered a "prototype". Pilgrims Plunge was way different and utilized another lift system. When building prototype delays should really be expected. CP could of course have built an off-the-shelf B&M looper, but they are known for bringing us awesome prototypes, and I think we should appreciate it (or at least accept minor delays like this.)

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If you all can be so understanding with the Holiday World issue, why do you have to be so mean and hateful towards Cedar Point?

 

Holiday World and Cedar Point are wildly different parks, with wildly different relationships with their wildly different fans...?

 

Holiday World has built up a lot of goodwill with their fan base by being forthright, friendly, and inclusive. Cedar Point lives and dies by the sword, so to speak--being as fickle and demanding of its fan base as they are of the park.

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Also with Holiday World, they are introducing something completely new and untested, If it is the top of the hills they screwed up on STR than that is truly amazing since thats the only part of this ride system that could be considered "prototype". The difference is that Holiday World is a small park toying around with their huge ride, with Cedar Point, no one even needs to tell you they are the best park in the world they'll do it themselves but they seemingly can't build a "log flume". Thats where I think most people see the difference. I don't really care, but while both delays are dissapointing they should be expected. Besides, for some its just fun ripping on CP

 

I think that both parks are deserving of the coaster community's patience is and courtesy. Heck CP just went all out THEMEING a ride! We don't want to scare them away from doing it again.

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