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P. 791: Big Bear Mountain family coaster announced for 2023!

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Happened to me on big bear last season.. by the end of the ride all four of us were all over each other.. luckily we were both young couples so we thought it was funny

 

If you sit Indian style on it, you bounce on that ride, or used to when they allowed you to sit Indian style.. like bouce enough to almost fall out

 

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Thanks, that makes sense. Everyone else I saw were groups of 3 so I was just curious, we all laughed about it cause it was definitely different lol

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No, the announcement didn't include any closures or any new rides.. odd that the rumor is still floating among ride ops so I guess JDWades source might still be correct.

 

I'm sure it's safe to post the ride name but it will be welcomed with "it's probably not true", "hope it's not true" and typical rumor stuff haha no problems with that though!

 

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I was there for the announcement, was hoping, but nothing. Lol. The Christmas and pumpkin festival was cool though.

 

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Happened to me on big bear last season.. by the end of the ride all four of us were all over each other.. luckily we were both young couples so we thought it was funny

 

If you sit Indian style on it, you bounce on that ride, or used to when they allowed you to sit Indian style.. like bouce enough to almost fall out

 

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Thanks, that makes sense. Everyone else I saw were groups of 3 so I was just curious, we all laughed about it cause it was definitely different lol

Haha yeah, now it would be awkward if we were matched with an older family, or family with young kids or something but we got matched with a college couple so it was all fun and games.. we actually followed them down to the water coaster and was matched with them again then parted ways after that haha

 

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Planning my first ever trip to Dollywood for this weekend. Only planning on going Saturday as it open from 10-9p, I feel that should be plenty of time to enjoy the park. Imagine should be a little less busy since schools are starting to be back in session? Also, I know it's a gamble with LR, but how has that been lately? Operating daily with 1 train? Thank you!

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Wow wasn't expecting River Battle to be removed but then again it was the least busy of their water rides.

 

It wouldn't be a flashy addition, but I would love to see some flats added in that space to add more things on the loop around the park.

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My guess is that this will make room for the expansion up to the train loop. They need more space so they can make the elevation change ADA accessible so shifting the walking path into River Battle's footprint will allow them to do construction/grading where the rest of the ride was and the retaining wall/owl photo op is.

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My guess is that this will make room for the expansion up to the train loop. They need more space so they can make the elevation change ADA accessible so shifting the walking path into River Battle's footprint will allow them to do construction/grading where the rest of the ride was and the retaining wall/owl photo op is.
This is my guess too because that's the location close to the expansion if older rumors are correct.. Dollywood has said themselves that their plan is to expand up the train loop and having room in that area to rework paths would really be helpful

 

Now, a lot of people seem upset about this, Dollywood might wanna make an announcement sooner rather than later about their plans and why this is needed..

 

Also, River Battle is only fun when it is full and it's not full very often except on busy days

 

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I've never been a huge fan of the splash battle rides because you get totally soaked, like to the point where it can make you miserable for the rest of the day.

 

I wonder if there's any chance they move the Splash Battle to Splash Country, I've always wanted to see one of these operate in a water park.

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I'm sure it'll move to another HFE property somewhere or be sold.. it should have plenty of life left in it.. not sure if it will move to Splash Country, they honestly struggle with space there as well.. Might move as a free attraction to Dreammore but I doubt it.. I'd bet it'll show up at wild adventure if they don't already have something similar.. That park doesn't seem to have the funding other HFE parks do.

 

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River Battle is honestly the ugliest thing in the entire park. It feels so out of place and awkward and I'm really glad that area is getting some love.

 

So glad that River Battle is getting removed and DDF is staying. DDF is a killer water ride and we rode it every day of our visit this summer. We rode River Battle once and got completely soaked, which wasn't terrible since it was a really hot day. But RB never had a line and a lot of the boats were going out empty. It also takes up a good chunk of land, so I'm interested to see what they are going to put in to replace it.

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My guess is that this will make room for the expansion up to the train loop. They need more space so they can make the elevation change ADA accessible so shifting the walking path into River Battle's footprint will allow them to do construction/grading where the rest of the ride was and the retaining wall/owl photo op is.

 

I am going to disagree on this. I think there is too much involved with building inside the loop and that idea is scrapped. They need power, plumbing, pathways up the mountain, etc. Plus it would ruin the view of the train ride. I think if they are going to expand a new area, it would go behind the country fair area in the big field.

 

I suspect that they will go with another family area with a few flats and a play area like Fireman's Landing at SDC.

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My guess is that this will make room for the expansion up to the train loop. They need more space so they can make the elevation change ADA accessible so shifting the walking path into River Battle's footprint will allow them to do construction/grading where the rest of the ride was and the retaining wall/owl photo op is.

 

I am going to disagree on this. I think there is too much involved with building inside the loop and that idea is scrapped. They need power, plumbing, pathways up the mountain, etc. Plus it would ruin the view of the train ride. I think if they are going to expand a new area, it would go behind the country fair area in the big field.

 

I suspect that they will go with another family area with a few flats and a play area like Fireman's Landing at SDC.

That's the issue, they already have pathways up the mountain that way.. yes they are service roads but not as much involved as you think. They aren't expanding into the train loop yet but up it.

 

I'd imagine a lot of it had already been planned and even engineered when they announced it four or five years ago.. that was when they started cutting some of the service roads.

 

My only other idea is they are using the river battle area for a show building.. it's a large area and would make room for a new dark ride.

 

But expanding up the train loop has been their plan for a while and they even mention there would be a lot of infrastructure that would need to take place before it happens.. I mean, they know this is going to be a huge expansion and I feel they are prepared for it

 

But with that being said, the service roads, the junk piles they have hidden on the train loop, and other things already take away from the looks of it.

 

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I have video footage from April last year of a wide open River Battle with NO ONE on it, while Daredevil Falls and River Rampage were charging on with plenty of riders. It was a little cooler that day (low 60s I think) so that was probably the reason, but still, it's never felt super successful in terms of crowd draw except with kids.

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They have something huge planned for the area, they have to.. River Battle opened in 2008 and was 5 - 6 million wasn't it? You don't just demolish a ride that new and that expensive unless you have something big to take it's place.. I am like Ernie and feel this is the start of the expansion.. They announced it with the 10 year plan, they know they have a lot of work to do to make it a reality, plus early this season or very late last season (I don't remember) the survey about themes for the new area came out to select folks.. if I were a betting man, I'd expect the expansion to be officially announced before winter!

 

Or at least teasers

 

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To me River Battle was cool when it first opened, because it was packed with people. Now it just kinda is..ehh. Like we walk past it every time and watch Wild Eagle drop from the lift and we will occasionally get sprayed if anyone is on but to participate? I'm not gonna take all my energy to crank those things to get a tiny bit of water. If they put more water out with less force it would be ok, but I'll stick to slidewinder, DDF, and rampage.So now I guess we wait for an announcement?

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I'm sure it'll move to another HFE property somewhere or be sold.. it should have plenty of life left in it.. not sure if it will move to Splash Country, they honestly struggle with space there as well.. Might move as a free attraction to Dreammore but I doubt it.. I'd bet it'll show up at wild adventure if they don't already have something similar.. That park doesn't seem to have the funding other HFE parks do.

 

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I can see this being sent to Wild Adventures. It won't get me back there (and it's the closest park to me), but I think it would work out there just fine with it's more family lineup.

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I'm sure it'll move to another HFE property somewhere or be sold.. it should have plenty of life left in it.. not sure if it will move to Splash Country, they honestly struggle with space there as well.. Might move as a free attraction to Dreammore but I doubt it.. I'd bet it'll show up at wild adventure if they don't already have something similar.. That park doesn't seem to have the funding other HFE parks do.

 

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Yeah at this point Herschend should just sell the park because they aren't really adding to it enough for it to make sense.

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I'm sure it'll move to another HFE property somewhere or be sold.. it should have plenty of life left in it.. not sure if it will move to Splash Country, they honestly struggle with space there as well.. Might move as a free attraction to Dreammore but I doubt it.. I'd bet it'll show up at wild adventure if they don't already have something similar.. That park doesn't seem to have the funding other HFE parks do.

 

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Yeah at this point Herschend should just sell the park because they aren't really adding to it enough for it to make sense.

This might be reaching but I always felt they bought that park for the animals with plans to eventually have them at and move them to Dollywood or SDC.. I always felt it was part of their quest to be Disney..

 

Again this was just my feeling about that park when they purchased it and nothing has ever been said to make me feel this way.. it's just me

 

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