Skycoastin Steve Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Alright everyone, let me say it again. I was joking about the B&M gigacoaster thing. I don't think there's any chance at all it's a gigacoaster. So I think we can move on from that subject. Sheeeeeeeeesh.
tntornadox Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Hmm, this is indeed a mystery coaster. The more I look at it the more I agree, the track doesn't look as wide as Raptor's to be a wing-rider. Is there anything else B&M may be working on? Any rumors out there?
dragonskeep Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 With the fact that it's a Wingrider, the speculation portion of the thread is over. Even though I had the little winky guy I still don't see how it could be anything else. While a sit down would be great it wouldn't come with any hype and doesn't fit any of the clues. I don't think anyone expects them to build a Hyper either. Basically, if the clues are real then it's a Wingrider. There is clearly some elevation change on the sight so it's a pretty safe guess to say that will come into play as well. A custom layout seems unavoidable. I would love to see it have like a LC 12 type start and end it with something sweeping and fast with small airtime hills and terrain elements.
angryemobeaver Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 That will NEVER happen! B&M will NOT, NEVER, EVER build a coaster over 230ft tall... http://rcdb.com/1414.htm 239' 6". Back on topic, I agree about it being a Wingrider. Only because Dollywood said it'd be the first of it's kind in the US, and the track is B&M.
QueerRudie Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Back on topic, I agree about it being a Wingrider. Only because Dollywood said it'd be the first of it's kind in the US, and the track is B&M. With the fact that it's a Wingrider, the speculation portion of the thread is over. I don't see plans there that say "Wingrider" But have you already forgotten about their OTHER innovation this year: The Mini-Dive machine. Admittedly, they do have Mystery Mine- but the idea of B&M Branching out into a broader format of the MIni-diver DOES conjure up images of what could be a first-of-it's kind in the USA. The narrower train fits the standard B&M Gauge rail- and the ability to make a multi-inversion layout would really shine. Just my .02. I'd love to see a WingRider- but let's keep the idea box open too.
Devious Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 It's going to be a terrain stand-up B&M Aquatrax with 13 inversions. Kidding aside, this looks to be an interesting addition to an amazing park, irregardless of *WHAT* type of B&M it is
PKI Jizzman Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Mini dive machine could work. But I feel like Mystery Mine would be too closely similar. Hell, MM is already a mini dive machine in its own way. Right down to the holding brakes for a drop! And all those other special effects added in...I'm not sure how you could be that or make the two rides much different from one another. But then again if they did any B&M with the quality of themeing of Mystery Mine...OMG
dragonskeep Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I forgot about the mini diver. That is something it could be if it wasn't already guaranteed to be a Wingrider.
QueerRudie Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I forgot about the mini diver. That is something it could be if it wasn't already guaranteed to be a Wingrider. Please show me this 'Guarantee' that you're holding.
Shavethewhales Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Back on topic, I agree about it being a Wingrider. Only because Dollywood said it'd be the first of it's kind in the US, and the track is B&M. With the fact that it's a Wingrider, the speculation portion of the thread is over. I don't see plans there that say "Wingrider" But have you already forgotten about their OTHER innovation this year: The Mini-Dive machine. Admittedly, they do have Mystery Mine- but the idea of B&M Branching out into a broader format of the MIni-diver DOES conjure up images of what could be a first-of-it's kind in the USA. The narrower train fits the standard B&M Gauge rail- and the ability to make a multi-inversion layout would really shine. Just my .02. I'd love to see a WingRider- but let's keep the idea box open too. Right, I could totally see them marketing a small carriage dive machine for it's status as first in the U.S. I mean, it would be interesting if it ended up being B&M's version of the euro-fighter like you say, but it seems entirely unlikely compared to the wing rider option. I do keep trying to go back and look at what else it could possibly be, but unless B&M has a totally new design up their sleeves this pretty much has to be a wing rider if what Pete said has any validity, and he is as accurate a source as anyone. The wing rider makes sense for the park for a lot of reasons, even though many of us would rather have a more traditional type. Getting past all of that though, anyone going anytime soon? With track on site, i would be great to see regular photos. Heck, some of the footers are already done, who knows how soon vertical construction could start.
ernierocker Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) I just don't see how a B&M mini diver would fit well into the terrain of the area this ride is going into. I haven't looked if they have more concepts for this type of ride, but all of their dive machines to date have followed the same basic formula that works for more small compact spaces. Don't forget that we know for a fact that the ride's layout has been described as "long and winding" so I am just not thinking a dive machine when I read that description. A wing rider or inverted coaster just seems more likely with the information we have. I have pretty much abandoned the thought of it being a launched coaster since I found out it was a B&M. Edited June 12, 2011 by ernierocker
dragonskeep Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I forgot about the mini diver. That is something it could be if it wasn't already guaranteed to be a Wingrider. Please show me this 'Guarantee' that you're holding. My original statement had one of these little guys , but you left it off the quote. That being said it is a Wingrider unless the clues have been smoke screen. The Wingrider seems hokey to me but not in the same way the stand-ups do for instance. It does at least look like an enjoyable and comfortable way to enjoy a ride. I hope in the end it is at least big and puts Dollywood more on the map.
jarmor Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) ^I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying he was being sarcastic, since his home park is Carowinds, home of the 232 foot B&M. I'm also being a bit facetious, as well, but wouldn't it be hilarious if I was right? you are correct...for once Its just that a while ago people were saying "B&M will never build over 230ft...while silver star was steadily waving its 239'6" hand. Edited June 12, 2011 by jarmor
BaMiTsPaT Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I almost thought I was reading the Hershey Park discussion thread. All speculation is great, but I'm just happy that DW is getting a new coaster in 2012, and am hoping it is the wing rider design because Raptor looks incredible, and I can only imagine what Dollywood could do with a similar ride as far as theming goes.
r3vo Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Just a FYI, you can see a lot of blue track from the top of Thunderhead. Didn't take a picture seeing as TPR would remove it since I was on a "moving ride".
Solid Gold Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Port Aventura is adding a Hyper that's supposed to be like, 260 feet or so right? Dive machine shouldn't even be in the discussion. I should think that, for many reasons already stated, that would be the LEAST likely type for Dollywood to get. Everyone please remember that the footers of the ride already point to a fairly long, possibly terrain-like layout.
chadster Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Just a FYI, you can see a lot of blue track from the top of Thunderhead. Didn't take a picture seeing as TPR would remove it since I was on a "moving ride". I don't think TPR would have removed it for that reason, pretty sure the park has rules against taking pictures from rides.
Skycoastin Steve Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 ^It's really just a rule against breaking park rules. If it's a rule that you can't have a camera out on Thunderhead, and you take a picture from the lift hill, then you broke a park rule. If you take a picture from the train (which isn't against park rules), then everything is a-ok.
coasterbear30 Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 I just saw a picture of the label on the end of one of the blue pieces of track and before the model number it starts with WI. Pretty sure that screams wing rider as B&M are known to put letters before the model number that has a clue to the type of ride, unless I am mistaken.
dragonskeep Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 ^ That's probably correct but if WI has been used before someone here will know about it. Seems like final confirmation to me. It seems like B&M uses something that's not too obvious so the lable description seems legit. It would be cool to have a pre drop section off the mountain. I have a lot of confidence in Dollywood but I would beg them to look at the land they have been blessed with and to see it as an asset. A terrain version of a Wingrider could be a very cool and unique ride. The B&M part I have to admit is a little dissappointing for me. I live near many great examples of their coasters and love them all, I just would't drive across the country for any of them. Their rides just start to feel the same to me. When I think of having all that good terrain and then bringing in B&M it seems like it may go to waste. I don't know if they have it in them, I dont see it.
Visioneer Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 If “the sky is not the limit,” what is? You. Endurance … human limits. What’s blue (i.e. track so far = sky) and test human limits? Blue Angels (Navy / Marines) or Thunderbirds (Air Force). If it’s a wing rider, then consider these … G forces, inversions, maybe the world’s longest barrel roll? All things that test human limits. I can see wingriders aren’t so extreme in forces, but certainly in perception. It also fits into a military theme which compliments Dollywood and company core values. All guesses in fun.
dragonskeep Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Rocky canyons with water rushing under you is great fun and would be perfect for either eagles or...the Blue Angels, awesome!!
PhilipB Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Hey guys. Just wanted to introduce myself (Again). I posted only a couple times about a year ago, but nothing major. But due to some personal convictions, I'm migrating this to TPR officially due to, what I'm calling Cyber Bullying and Abuse of Authority. I think everyone understands... Anyways, I just wanted to add something. I think we can confirm that this is a wing rider for this reason. The track that was spotted at the B&M Plant a while back that was thought to be the track for Thorp Park because it is wing rider track, is now at Dollywood. If you go look at the two track labels on Scream Scape of both the DW track and the B&M Plant track, it's the same track. So, I think it's safe to say DW's getting her own Wing Rider coaster!
coasterfreaky Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 ^Lots of signs seem to be pointing to the Wing Rider. No complaints from coasterfreaky about that. It looks to me like construction has been accelerated...i don't think that would necessarily happen with something tried, true and tested, such as an invert or sit-down looper. We have seen all too many B&M's pop up in a matter of months and weeks...so this seems unusual. I would understand that to mean that they want this completed as soon as possible so testing can commence and unforseen issues can be taken care of asap. I am very proud of Dollywood, this is Tennessee's first ever B&M, so loads of love to Dollywood for going this route....whatever design it may be
coasterfreak101 Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Is it too early for B&M to be looking at rotating the seats? I imagine they've already designed a system, and now that they have the force data from Raptor...just a thought!
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