New Roller Coaster Type from RMC Rocky Mountain Construction

[rcjp]

It's the rails, not the spine, that causes the roar on B&Ms. It's only the rails that are filled.

Where did you hear that?

I've heard people saying it's only the spine, only the supports or both so (even though I feel it's both) I don't really know but I'd never heard anyone mentioning the rails.

Those are some very, very nice looking trains and it's great to see something new on the coaster scene. How would a traditional chain lift hill be incorporated on something like this given it's just one solid piece of steel?

It doesn't seem too complex, I think. Maybe they will incorporate the rail for the chain and the ratchet thingy in the track.

[KingRCT3]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's the spine that is filled out on B&M. See there, we can see the plugs:

 

[DoinItForTheFame]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's the spine that is filled out on B&M.

 

You are correct, it is the spine that is filled with sand on B&M coasters... Not the rails.

[A.J.]

You are correct, it is the spine that is filled with sand on B&M coasters... Not the rails.

Spine with sand, supports with gravel, if I'm not mistaken.

[Superbatboy]

I had no idea there were so many engineers here...

 

I don't know about how many engineers are here, but I do see we have a non contributing to anything smart A$$ in the house

 

I'll take the compliment, thank you.

 

And I did contribute to the thread early on before all the nay-sayers came aboard questioning RMCs decision to use t-rex track type. I think RMC knows what they're doing at this point, they have proved know-it-all enthusiasts wrong before.

[robbalvey]

I had no idea there were so many engineers here...

 

I don't know about how many engineers are here, but I do see we have a non contributing to anything smart A$$ in the house

 

I'll take the compliment, thank you.

 

And I did contribute to the thread early on before all the nay-sayers came aboard questioning RMCs decision to use t-rex track type. I think RMC knows what they're doing at this point, they have proved know-it-all enthusiasts wrong before.

He's right.

[canadianparkfan]

I had no idea there were so many engineers here...

 

I don't know about how many engineers are here, but I do see we have a non contributing to anything smart A$$ in the house

 

I'll take the compliment, thank you.

 

And I did contribute to the thread early on before all the nay-sayers came aboard questioning RMCs decision to use t-rex track type. I think RMC knows what they're doing at this point, they have proved know-it-all enthusiasts wrong before.

He's right.

 

I totally second this.

 

Remember the "bolt issue" with NTAG?

[CP Maverick]

I wonder how much cost will be affected using that much steel. I see a materials vs labor cost being the major factor in manufacturing.

[DoinItForTheFame]

I wonder how much cost will be affected using that much steel. I see a materials vs labor cost being the major factor in manufacturing.

 

I mean, is there really "that" much more steel being used considering they are only using one track instead of two?? I feel like cost should not go up a lot. But I could be wrong...

[CP Maverick]

That one single track uses more steel than two separate tracks. But it also uses less joints and welds, so you may be cutting down on labor as well. So it's just a question of balancing those costs.

[coasterkid124]

But it also uses less joints and welds, so you may be cutting down on labor as well.

 

This is going to be a big advantage for RMC. One of the big reasons why they are so limited in projects per year is because they hand build everything,

[johnnyknottsville]

I had no idea there were so many engineers here...

 

I don't know about how many engineers are here, but I do see we have a non contributing to anything smart A$$ in the house

 

I'll take the compliment, thank you.

 

And I did contribute to the thread early on before all the nay-sayers came aboard questioning RMCs decision to use t-rex track type. I think RMC knows what they're doing at this point, they have proved know-it-all enthusiasts wrong before.

He's right.

 

Well I do apologize for making an a$$ out of myself and I do 100% agree with you that RMC knows what they are doing again my bad

[jedimaster1227]

That track looks awesome! Really interested to see what kind of wicked coaster elements RMC can pull off with this new track design!

[better_by_design]

That one single track uses more steel than two separate tracks. But it also uses less joints and welds, so you may be cutting down on labor as well. So it's just a question of balancing those costs.

 

It is definitely MORE steel, but as someone earlier said, plate steel is a lot cheaper than tubular steel... as far as manufacturing costs go, I'd have to assume that it would be fairly straightforward (although anything new is hard) to use robotic cutting and welding?

 

Any smarter folks care to interject?

 

Personally, this could create a really different skyline look for a major coaster... single ribbon with fewer supports. And potentially create some new possibilities for coaster placement if you can get longer spans between supports.

[KingRCT3]

More steel, less steel, I don't know, but certainly less waste. Sure the wasted steel can be melted again and re-used, but it might cost time and money.

[JonnyRCT3]

^^I'm most likely in the minority here, but I don't see how this design would cause for fewer supports. Has there been info released on this track style being able to support bigger loads, or is this all enthusiast speculation?

[TB305]

^^I'm most likely in the minority here, but I don't see how this design would cause for fewer supports. Has there been info released on this track style being able to support bigger loads, or is this all enthusiast speculation?

I agree with you, I don't see how it would have any more load bearing capabilities than say a B&M bix spine.

 

*Of course I'm only an aspiring engineer, not the real thing just yet!

[palmerleeberry]

That looks awesome. I cannot wait to see what lucky park will be the first to get a coaster with an element like that ( With my luck it'll be in some European park that I may never have the chance to visit, or let's get positive and say it'll be my home park of Kings Dominion that'll get it first).

[Intimidated305]

That looks awesome. I cannot wait to see what lucky park will be the first to get a coaster with an element like that ( With my luck it'll be in some European park that I may never have the chance to visit, or let's get positive and say it'll be my home park of Kings Dominion that'll get it first).

Let the 2017 Kings Dominion coaster rumors begin!

[canadianparkfan]

That looks awesome. I cannot wait to see what lucky park will be the first to get a coaster with an element like that ( With my luck it'll be in some European park that I may never have the chance to visit, or let's get positive and say it'll be my home park of Kings Dominion that'll get it first).

Let the 2017 Canada's Wonderland coaster rumors begin!

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[Intimidated305]

That looks awesome. I cannot wait to see what lucky park will be the first to get a coaster with an element like that ( With my luck it'll be in some European park that I may never have the chance to visit, or let's get positive and say it'll be my home park of Kings Dominion that'll get it first).

Let the 2017 Canada's Wonderland coaster rumors begin!

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Canada's Wonderland vs. Kings Dominion! Who will win? I really hope us Kings Dominion fanboys get one of these fancy new RMC coasters. That is, if Canada's Wonderland doesn't get it first! Or maybe we'll both get one? Maybe Canada's Wonderland will get Shockwave from us and WE'LL get the RMC!

[coasterlvr]

But it also uses less joints and welds, so you may be cutting down on labor as well.

 

This is going to be a big advantage for RMC. One of the big reasons why they are so limited in projects per year is because they hand build everything,

 

robots and computers make other manufactures track??? don't really get that statement. are there like 10 guys that get on each side of some steel and push opposite ways to twist their i box track currently? lol j/k

[KingRCT3]

By the way, anyone noticed those rails in the background? What are they? Looks like the track gauge is smaller than your usual I-Box/Free-Fly track!

 

Snapshot from a video

[Brassinthegrass]

It's brown for SFGAdv new ride, RMC makes the track for S&S

[ejot]

^The gauge does indeed look too narrow, though. Perhaps the cross-ties are not the actual final pieces.

 

 

I'd have to assume that it would be fairly straightforward (although anything new is hard) to use robotic cutting and welding?

Robotic cutting of flat sheet steel is pretty straightforward. RMC already does this with a CNC plasma torch on a 40' water table.

Making robotic welding cost-effective requires enormous scale, so I'd suspect that Topper, I-Box, FreeSpin and T-Rex tracks are all hand welded while mounted in jigs.