Trevor Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 If we are talking about a B&M design... seems logical to think that it will be a launched coaster (because if the ride is 30m heigh maximum, that can't give any speed to the train). I would think that the sistem is pretty equal as the one in Hulk. The Tire Propelled Launch Looking at the heights of the Hulk coaster, it's 33,5 meters tall. Plus the announcement says that there will be some zero g elements, it won't be difficult to think that there are some zero g rolls in tle layout... even in the very end of the launch, as the Hulk coaster do. Moreover, the rumours in Port Aventura about a new dive machine project (that now seems to be rejected) said that in the layout there was a big zero g roll. If we compare the "wing rider" coaster and the Dive machine car, the sensation of the passangers would be similar. So, I think that there will be some zero g rolls in the layout.
CorkscrewFoley Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 Yes, but that zero G experience could be some good floater hills too...Just a thought...
coast4airtime Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 ^^Also it becomes difficult for zero-g moments with trains that are twenty feet wide because when one side of the train is tilting up while the other side is going down, the lower side is being pulled out of the turn with some pretty intense laterals and verticals. So you couldn't go very fast through the element or have it have a very tight turn. My bet is a straight launch closer to the ground and throught one camel-back and one in-line twist.
coastermoosh Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 If we are talking about a B&M design... seems logical to think that it will be a launched coaster (because if the ride is 30m heigh maximum, that can't give any speed to the train). I would think that the sistem is pretty equal as the one in Hulk. The Tire Propelled Launch... No speed to the train? You do realize this ride has almost identical height and track length stats as B&M's inverted Batman The Ride, right?
robbalvey Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 if the ride is 30m heigh maximum, that can't give any speed to the train Nemesis is only 12 meters high and that thing has plenty of speed!!!
Golfie Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 Oh my god, do I see an Avatar coaster in the future?
Guy T. Koepp Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 ^^&^^^ 30m is just a C hair shy of 100ft. Well, that is if you can find a 98.5 foot wide C hair. Guy "Not bad math for a retarded kid. Huh Robb?" Koepp
matteocrepaldi Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 Consider that it will probably use the terrain and if I remember correctly there's a small hill right where the new ride will be. I'm expecting great things for this ride.
Cavs Fan Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 How original. Still is nice to finally see something new from B&M.
robbalvey Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 I can't imagine Intamin would phone up B&M and say "Hey would you guys like our help and input in designing a rival coaster". Why not? B&M phoned up Vekoma and asked for their help when they were designing their version of the flying coaster. Vekoma phoned up Arrow and asked them for help back in the day. This kind of thing actually happens more often than you'd think. --Robb
ECZenith Posted July 18, 2010 Posted July 18, 2010 I really like this design, and I can imagine once the prototype opens we'll see some stateside soon enough. Screamscape was showing off new B&M track today, it could possibly be X-Raptor's given the color is very close to that in the concept art. http://screamscape.com/html/bm_track_0.htm
Vekoma Fan Boy Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Dunno if this has already been discussed/resolved, but anyone think that this may be the mystery X-Works track from long ago?
CorkscrewFoley Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 I wanted to see the track, but for whatever reason, I can't get on Screamscape 90 percent of the time. As for companies calling each other for help, that's new to me, and I actually find it very cool.
andyuk200523 Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Those photos look like they are the north american manufacturing plant. I would doubt that B&M would get the track manufactured outside of Europe for a park that is in Northern Italy. So this could even be another New B&M. I like the idea of the original Mystery Yellow B&M Track, that might make sense, as B&M would have already made a mock up to test everything works I would have thought.
Richard Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 because if the ride is 30m heigh maximum, that can't give any speed to the train 30m is around 100ft! There's plenty of coasters with a height difference of that much without launches, including Batman: the Ride and Nemesis, Colossus etc I doubt you could say these rides lack speed.
jamesdillaman Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 ^ Those rides lack speed. hmmm, apparently I can say that.
saiyanhajime Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Those photos look like they are the north american manufacturing plant. I would doubt that B&M would get the track manufactured outside of Europe for a park that is in Northern Italy. So this could even be another New B&M. It may be cheaper to get it built in the US and ship given the cheapness of the dollar compared to the damned euro. Doubt it, but maybe. ^ Those rides lack speed. hmmm, apparently I can say that. I think Nemesis and Batman feel faster than many coasters twice their height or more. Like, say, Millennium Force orrr Griffon. This thing could gain plenty of speed and give the illusion it's traveling even faster.
saiyanhajime Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 ^Assuming it was you who the original quote was from, saying that the rides will lack speed, your later sarcasm doesn't matter. You're still saying something incorrect. Dunno if the original quote was you, though, just assumed. If it wasn't, why you replied in first person is beyond me.
4rturo Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 B&M know's how to handle speed, I remember in an interview when Walter Bolliger stated that "humans don't perceive speed unless it changes" in a question about coaster speed. They really know how to do it, and the Batman clones are a great example of that.
saiyanhajime Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 B&M know's how to handle speed, I remember in an interview when Walter Bolliger stated that "humans don't perceive speed unless it changes" in a question about coaster speed. They really know how to do it, and the Batman clones are a great example of that. What a fantastic quote! Link to the interview?
4rturo Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 Unfortunately no, I read it over a year ago and I really can't remember where it was, the link is definitely on the site, so if anyone finds it it will be appreciated
matteocrepaldi Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 There's a new update here (LINK!!!) showing the site for the new ride and some teasing things that appeard around the park. From what they say the ground cleaning part is complete so I hope to see them starting making footers soon.
braztaz Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 I'm kinda late on this...but that looks so awesome!
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