What coaster should get the next Rocky Mountain treatment?

[Myself]

To each his own, I guess. Gemini's first drops are parellel as are most racing coasters.

 

...Unless you're referring to Gwazi, which, yes, is a dueling coaster. I was referring to Gemini the whole time, since coastercrazy 9 mentioned it. Whoops.

[Wes]

^ Ah yeah, was referring to Gwazi. My bad.

[JonnyRCT3]

 

Is there any reason Cedar Point couldn't rework Gemini with iron horse track utilizing the existing structure and new trains to make that layout all new and exciting? I just see this technology as having very few limitations as far as as it's applications go, if it is successful that is.

 

I'm sure CP want's to keep this ride mild at best. CP is trying to be more family oriented, and Gemini is really what seperates CCMR from Millennium. It's good to have Coasters for everyone, and not just a park full of crazy rides that only a select few would enjoy.

[154bmag]

I put my vote for Ghostrider at KBF

[JonnyRCT3]

This isn't directly on-topic but I thought Id share.

 

Anyone else notice how smooth the coasters at Kennywood Park are? Jack Rabbit(92), Racer(85), and Thunderbolt(44) are all wooden, and still smooth. Thunderbolt is the smoothest wood coaster I've been on. Kennywood has a great method of preserving their rides, I just wish the big corporate parks (CF,SF) took more care of their woodies. Atleast Six Flags is doing something, even though it completely defeats the purpose of the wood coaster by turning them into steel ones. Not saying that The New Texas Giant/Iron Rattler idea is horrible (I think it's genius). It just shows that parks aren't really caring much for wooden coasters anymore.

[XYZ]

I put my vote for Ghostrider at KBF

 

I'm all in for GhostRider topper track. Bring back the glory!

[JonnyRCT3]

Is it just me, Or do CCI coasters not hold up well over time? Or nearly every wood coaster built in the 90's.

[scbt]

The only wooden coaster that I've been on that really needed some help was Wildcat at Hershey, but then again, all i think that really needs is just some good old fashioned TLC which it seems to have been lacking.

[ernierocker]

^Since GCI retracks/maintains all of their own rides, I can hardly see another company coming in and doing it, but stranger things have happened I guess.

Edited September 26, 2012 by ernierocker

[ajfelice]

It's funny, even since the Timberliners have been a failure to launch on a large wooden coaster such as Voyage, we have switched our remedy for rough rides from "get a set of Timberliners" to "RMC Overahaul."

 

Hopefully this fad limits itself for some of the rough Dinn's, RCCAs, and maybe a few CCIs of the 80s and 90s. Losing the wooden coaster experience would be a detriment to the amusement park experience. I'm not against new projects/ride experiences, but I think it would be a shame to wooden coasters if this Iron Horse system really takes hold on some coasters that aren't far off from being great coasters.

[ProwlerPrey]

I really think Timberwolf could be an amazing ride with a complete Topper Track makeover. It was one of the best rides in the world when it opened, but the trims and PTC trains have turned it into a really bad ride. Would love to see this happen

[cal1br3tto]

I think Gwazi is the only coaster at BGT that is not up to par with the other great coasters there.

Agreed; I found this very strange (though I'm sure there are plenty of theories out there). It seems like the other coasters are kept in good-to-excellent shape (I do realize they may not be the hardest rides to care for), plus GCIs tend toward the smooth side much of the time. I'm sure they're aware of the issues, so I don't get why they can't or won't do anything about it that lasts. Maybe they just couldn't repair all the pre-MF track damage?

 

Anyway, the coaster that absolutely NEEDS its Topper Tracking completed is the murderous Georgia Cyclone. Another good candidate would be Timber Wolf; it's definitely rough enough to need it, and it has an excellent layout to take advantage of. Isn't some Topper Track rumored for it?

[A.J.]

I believe that they only fitted the trains in 2011 and did nothing to the revitalize the track, but I'm not sure. I believe that the same situation is true for Wildcat (which is why it's still a pretty rough ride).

 

Re-tracking Gwazi is re-tracking Gwazi, whether you call in Great Coasters or Rocky Mountain. They still have to go in and replace all the bents along the layout. From what everyone has been saying, it doesn't seem like you're just going to be able to replace certain sections. Gwazi is two coasters, after all.

[Normalaatsra]

Anyone though of Robin Hood at Walibi Holland?

I almost died.

[bill_s]

I didn't address the subject of wood vs. steel in my prev. post... anyone ride a steel-supported wood coaster such as The Great White at Moreys? I've never heard much controversy if this qualifies as a steel coaster, possibly because woodie fans usually like it. I like it but it is a very hard ride. It's probably far better than a true woodie would be by now in that environment, but if that doesn't require the "hybrid" descriptor, surely the Rocky Mountains don't.

[nannerdw]

Mean Streak

Also, I'd like to see them make a modern version of the Crystal Beach Cyclone (minus the rib cracking)

[Dragon Khan]

Beside all the biggies which look great but unfortunately ride bad, (MS, Boss, ...) I'd love to see this treatment applied to Stampida, which really needs to be smoothed out. The state which it is in is just intolerable, and even if the awful kumbak trains are hugely responsible for it, the track is in desperate need of some work too. While on the subject of Spanish woodies, the one in Warner Park Madrid would be a good contender for transformation too: it has a very nice structure (meaning large) but is just a piece of crµap as it is now. Same for anaconda at Walygator, but I have a feeling the park will be closed sooner than we think. It's also too bad Hercules disappeared too soon because I'm sure RMC would have transformed this beast into a real thrill machine... Oh, and Movie Park Germany should definitely consider improving their bonebreaker too

[Rocket Rodder]

Ghostrider.

[SuperShawn]

Gwazi would be a good candidate for any sort of treatment that will help make it rideable again. My last ride on it still brings back painful memories. I'll also agree that Mean Streak, Ghostriders and Colossus would benefit from a makeover.

[MrSum1_55]

It seems that just about every Cedar Fair park has (or recently had) a coaster that could use the treatment. I would like to say Hurler, but the layouts on these are unexciting enough, so it would probebly be better to see these get torn down. Mean Streak may also have an unexciting layout, but, wih the giant structure, RMC would have more margin for creativity.

 

Currently, CF may be the chain with the most woodies in need of the treatment. However, Cedar Fair has shown no interest in having the treatment down to any of their woodies, except for maybe Ghostrider. The roadblock here is probably the GP who believe that getting the crap beaten out of you is fun.

[bludowise68]

What if Amercian Eagle at Six Flags Great America might get a treatment with two barral roll both red and blue side even the coaster

is only 31 years old than the speed might be the same or 70m.p.h

[australianalex]

It seems that just about every Cedar Fair park has (or recently had) a coaster that could use the treatment. I would like to say Hurler, but the layouts on these are unexciting enough, so it would probebly be better to see these get torn down.

If Hurler was given Iron Horse track I think it would make a really fun family coaster with some good airtime if the hills were reprofiled, maybe in some parts replaced by a double down, or even a barrel roll. Sure, it wouldn't be on the scale of New Texas Giant or Iron Rattler, but it would be great fun.

[dippindotsguy8]

What if Amercian Eagle at Six Flags Great America might get a treatment with two barral roll both red and blue side even the coaster

is only 31 years old than the speed might be the same or 70m.p.h

 

As much as I think barrel rolls would be sick on a racer, I just don't want to see such a classic ride that's still good get the Iron Horse overhaul. Like so many other coasters named on here, I'm just gonna vote topper track if absolutely necessary. AE is really a great ride. It's the coasters like Mean Streak that need Iron Horse, because they're not only rough, but also boring even when running well.

[A.J.]

Why does it always have to be done using the I-Box track? An airtime-filled layout can be created using the Topper track, you know...

[texcoaster]

I didn't address the subject of wood vs. steel in my prev. post... anyone ride a steel-supported wood coaster such as The Great White at Moreys? I've never heard much controversy if this qualifies as a steel coaster, possibly because woodie fans usually like it. I like it but it is a very hard ride. It's probably far better than a true woodie would be by now in that environment, but if that doesn't require the "hybrid" descriptor, surely the Rocky Mountains don't.

 

It is a hybrid, but the wood/steel description refers to the track. The reason that topper track coasters (regardless of the material of the structure) are being argued over is that the track is literally both. There is a traditional wood stack, but the upper layer is steel.

 

As for wood tracked/steel supported hybrids being classified as wood coasters, the answer is YES. Not only Great White, but a long list of others including Voyage, Villain, Hades, and even the Coney Island Cyclone.

Likewise, steel tracked/wood supported hybrids are classified as steel coasters (Gemini, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, New Texas Giant) even though the parks sometimes continue to refer to them as wood coasters.