larrygator Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) I cant remember the last time Cedar Fair rebranded a ride or changed one or anything like that. It just doesn't seem to be their style imo. Ever hear of Son of Beast? Edited May 16, 2011 by larrygator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsdude360 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Ok, here is my view on the NTAG treatment on all these coasters. IT'S A BAD IDEA. Most of those rides need topper track and they will be great rides just like they were in the beginning. They don't need entire reprofiling, and trains and all that jazz. I don't think people realize how much happened to Giant to accommodate these changes, and it simply can't work on just any existing ride so easily. SO many things had to be taken into account for this to happen on NTAG. I won't get into what all was done to it, but if anyone needs convincing, I'll write an essay on it for all to see. Rides that suck lemons like Mean Streak should get the treatment because even trimless, and smooth, Mean Streak is just a boring ride. Ghostrider, is not boring. It just needs smoothed out. Topper track it! Son of Beast, again, even smooth, the ride really is boring after the midcourse. NTAG treatment, go for it! Rattler, besides the helix and trims I actually love the ride, but some topper track and a bit of original profile resurrection and it would be awesome. Topper track it! Predator is probably not worth the investment since it's not really a MAJOR ride, and I don't know how much potential it really would have. It's a good enough ride as is. Topper track it! Georgia Cyclone, I haven't had the pleasure, but I'm going to say topper track it! Colossus, well, I LOVE how it looks and a NTAG treatment would fuglify it. (make it fugly). It's a sort of legendary classic in my eyes, however it is a tad dull. I say topper track it, but it may be worthy of a NTAG makeover. I'm on the fence here. Anyway, I think I made my points here. Basically I just wish everyone would stop saying every woody out there needs the NTAG treatment. I hate that Giant got it actually. It was already a fantastic ride and some topper track on there would have thrilled me to no end, but they did a great job with what it is now, and I'm happy with their efforts. It did pay off, but man the original ride was a beast. I'll miss it. Lets just not get carried away and rape the world of all it's classic wooden coasters here. I've ridden the Georgia Cyclone , the full NTAG treatment is it's only hope ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanGsatMCO Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I can't believe no one has said Teh bIG dIPPER... If The Prince and RMC teamed up it would just be epic!!! Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texcoaster Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 ^^I've also ridden the GaClone (many years ago) and it was freaking AWESOME. Topper Track that thing and take the trims off and you've already got a great Cyclone. A good Cyclone (Ga, Tx, or otherwise) is a wicked, intense experience when it's properly maintained and running well. Notice you don't hear anyone wishing for an Iron Horse Coney Cyclone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I sat in what a friend of mine called "the Magic Seat" on the Georgia Cyclone (last car, second-to-last seat) and had a wild, ejector-air-filled ride marred only by fair amount of shuffling. Other riders on that train, however, were moaning in pain and shaking their heads in despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) ^Can you imagine riding the Ga. Cyclone in that seat (or the back seat) if they put in the topper track?!?! Edited May 16, 2011 by ernierocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 ^No kidding--the ejector air on that ride is already insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 A full new reprofiling and completely different layout is the only hope Son of Beast has. With that being said i do think that a new layout and reprofiling could make Son of beast a really kick ass coaster, turn it into the ride it was always supposed to be but never really was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerCoasterSmi Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Didn't Alan Schilke from Rocky Mountain Coasters say that the technology could be built into a new ride... All I want to see now is a collaboration between Rocky Mountain Coasters and Gravity Group or GCI, that would be absolutely epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 A full new reprofiling and completely different layout is the only hope Son of Beast has. With that being said i do think that a new layout and reprofiling could make Son of beast a really kick A$$ coaster, turn it into the ride it was always supposed to be but never really was. Um... not to be nitpicky here, but full reprofiling and completely different layout... Yeah, Son of Beast COULD be a good ride if it was not Son of Beast. With a completely different layout, which is what Son of Beast needs, you're tearing it down and building a new coaster anyway. I repeat: TEAR IT DOWN! It doesn't matter if you leave the first drop and tear down the rest, it's no longer Son Of Beast, and that's fine by me. The people thinking that the NTAG treatment would resurrect this ride, though: Sorry, but living in Cincinnati, the ride even has a bad reputation with the general public. I hear all the time about how such and such died on the ride and all sorts of horrible things. Being closed for as long as it has, it just needs to go. Rebranding it will not save that ride, and if I was in charge of Kings Island, I wouldn't even put another wooden coaster there. Stay away from more bad publicity. Hasn't SoB harmed the coaster community enough? Here is the coasters that I think need it:1.Son of Beast (favorite woodie of all time0 2.Mean Streak 3.Hurler,Kings Dominion 4.Grizzly,Kings Dominion 5.The Racer's Hurler I actually agree with, heck even Grizzly, but messing with the Racers is a little far. On a side note, if you need someone to give you a ride to Indiana and ride some better wood coasters (SoB being your favorite woodie...), contact me and out of the goodness of my heart I'll take you to Indiana Beach and Holiday World. Your new top 5 wood will include The Voyage, Raven, Cornball Express, and possibly Legend and LoCoSuMo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movieguy Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Predator actually used to be a good coaster back when it first opened. It'd be nice to see that one get some topper track, and maybe some other little tweaks, to turn it back into the major ride it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrightFest1408 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hands down ... Colossus at SFMM! It's bah except for backwards colossus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSchwitek Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Is the Mount Olympus Facebook page hinting at something? Mount Olympus Water & Theme Park8 hours ago. "Hey Fans, What new element would you like to see on Hades?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsdude360 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 This is the next coaster that should get the Rocky Mountain treatment. Mean Streak, Cedar Point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 ^No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHcoasterki Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 ^He's allowed to have an opinion... I mean I agree with you, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteornotes Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Why would anyone want Mean Streak to get this treatment? It doesn't have a great layout and there's nothing noteworthy about the ride. CP would be better off spending the money on a new wooden coaster. Honestly, the only two coasters that immediately come to mind for this treatment would be Ghostrider (if it would return it to how it ran when it opened) and Colossus (if restored to the original layout). dt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GayCoasterGuy Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 ^^Why not, ernie? ^I'm sure Rocky Mountain has already done *wonders* with Mean Streak in their minds. The structural layout (read: NOT the profile ((in which the track travels in vertical planes)) lends itself to all sorts of GREAT stuff. I would think Mean Streak would be an obvious choice. It's Texas Giant's very-watered-down sister coaster. If they could do it and have it be close to how great the New Giant reportedly is, that would be a HUGE win, wouldn't it? I mean... Cedar Point (in many opinions) does need one GREAT coaster. (/ducks) I'm sure Cedar Point doesn't want to jump the gun and do anything with the ride until they get a few years view on how the Rocky Mountain stuff (Iron Horse/topper track) works out other coasters. But it's looking good so far. Topper track would do wonders for the American Eagle's helices. And maybe the rest of the ride, too. Then they can turn the brakes back off and let-er fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) It has been discussed a ton of times on here why Mean Streak would not make a good choice for the Rocky Mountain treatment. Dave pretty much summed it up perfectly. Edited September 21, 2012 by ernierocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanLegend Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 What page was this discussion on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsdude360 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Having ridden Mean Streak a total of 4 times over my last two trips to CP. I can say, with all honesty, they can either give it the RMC treatment or tear it down and replace it with something better. Right now it's a piece of crap taking up valuable space. I'm willing to bet that anyone who thinks Mean Streak shouldn't recieve the Rocky Mountain treatment probably hasn't ridden NTAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Makes you wonder...had Dorney Park kept Hercules, I bet RMC could have done something spectacular with it. It's long gone, though, so I also have to cast my vote to Mean Streak. It's the most similar ride to the old Texas Giant in my opinion, and CP doesn't seem to mind devoting a season to general park improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOGdude25 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I vote that Six Flags finishes putting Topper Track on the rest of Georgia Cyclone. This has always been one of my favorites for many years despite its roughness thanks to the "magic seat" (last car, first row), and also it was my first BIG coaster, so I'll always be fond of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteornotes Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I'm willing to bet that anyone who thinks Mean Streak shouldn't recieve the Rocky Mountain treatment probably hasn't ridden NTAG. And that's a bet you'd lose. I been on NTAG. I also rode the old Giant, and despite it's condition at the time, you could tell there was an interesting coaster hiding in there. Plus, you can talk to people that rode the old Giant when it was young, and they'll tell you what a great ride it was, and how it was regarded as one of the best wooden coasters around at the time. You would be hard pressed to find anyone singing the praises of Mean Streak like it was ever one of the best wooden coasters in the world at some point. Again, there really isn't anything remarkable about it, and it's really not a "signature" ride, one that people immediately think of when they think of Cedar Point, unlike Texas Giant or Rattler at their respective parks. I just don't see what they'd get out of re-doing Mean Streak vs putting the money into something new. Like a new Intamin woodie (someone has to build one at some point!). I always forget about the Georgia Cyclone. Yeah, that's a good call too. It was easily one of my favorite coasters when I rode it many years ago. Now? Not so much... dt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsdude360 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I watched them build the Texas Giant back in 1990 and I rode it the first week it was open. I know what a great ride it originally was. I continually rode the Giant throughout the 90's and most of the 2000's. I recorded 100's of laps on it before the RMC overhaul. Which is why I can say that the Giant is better now than it ever has been. As far as Mean Streak goes, I wouldn't mind seeing it replaced with something better. But if they do decide to give it the RMC treatment, it will be a far better ride than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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