Nrthwnd Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ^ That was fun. Looking forward to the entire reveal, eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Newton Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 It will be a 4 across seater with the outer seats floorless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutterflower Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Theres a video on the BBC showing a quick tour through the Mack Factory  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34982728  Anyone reckon these cars might be for Lost Gravity?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ^ Doubtful, the ride do have an inversion, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookiex Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think those are for the Mack spinner at IMG Worlds of Adventure in Dubai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I'd bet on single cars based purely on how quick that drop is. The back seat of a multi-car train over that drop would be downright painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCT3Bross Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ^ Doubtful, the ride do have an inversion, but we'll see. Why that? Because it's spinner trains? Or because lap-bars? Because both arguments are kind off invalid considering it's a done that been there deal. I do not mean to talk you down but just an observation. By the way I don't believe these are the trains we're looking for, because they seem to be train based not single car based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ^ I don't really think it's spinning unless they are going for Space Fantasy style 2 cars per train or single car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Or because lap-bars? Â Yes, I have a real hard time thinking those restraints would be qualified for a ride which flip you upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Maybe single cars similar to what Gale Force will be using... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Yes, I have a real hard time thinking those restraints would be qualified for a ride which flip you upside down. Â As opposed to the same lap bar design on their standard looper train? The restraint itself is the same, it's just attached to an overhead bar as opposed to a bar connected to the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ...it's just attached to an overhead bar as opposed to a bar connected to the floor. I'm pretty sure that's the big difference and what makes it suitable for inversions. In case of a failure it opens upward instead of forward, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 ...it's just attached to an overhead bar as opposed to a bar connected to the floor. I'm pretty sure that's the big difference and what makes it suitable for inversions. In case of a failure it opens upward instead of forward, right? Um... RMC, Gerstlauer, Schwarzkopf, Intamin all did that. Â I don't think it matters. The trains on the video are 95% not for Lost Gravity because the color will look disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 As opposed to the same lap bar design on their standard looper train? The restraint itself is the same, it's just attached to an overhead bar as opposed to a bar connected to the floor. Â The restraints itself it's not the same on the spinner and the looper. Â It's also a big difference on the angle the restraints lock your body down with if it's coming from the front or from above. That's why all restraints who is not coming from above needs a knee-bar today if they wish to perform twisty inversions, unless you wanna do like Gerstlauer and build a really big bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 That's why all restraints who is not coming from above needs a knee-bar today if they wish to perform twisty inversions, unless you wanna do like Gerstlauer and build a really big bar. To add to this, another part of the reason why Rocky Mountain trains, Premier trains and Zierer elevated seating trains have the knee bar is because the cars have completely open fronts and are close together - freely-moving legs would be dangerous in those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I305forever Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 ^ I agree with you, but what about that ride in Tokyo Sega World? Isn't that a spinner that goes upside-down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 ^ I agree with you, but what about that ride in Tokyo Sega World? Isn't that a spinner that goes upside-down? Veil of Dark has standard Gerstlauer OTSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 To add to this, another part of the reason why Rocky Mountain trains, Premier trains and Zierer elevated seating trains have the knee bar is because the cars have completely open fronts and are close together - freely-moving legs would be dangerous in those situations. Â Correct! We could brake it down to two different bars: Simple design, made to keep rider from sticking out their legs More advanced design, made to keep the rider in the seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCT3Bross Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Then I have 2 things: 1: That would make any inverted coaster unsafe, because yes we're locked in but if I stretch my feet (wich I can because no Shin bar) I touch the car in front of me wich is turning individually. 2: There is a cover on these trains on each front end ( and back since it's spinner) wich would make these trains just as safe as Blue Fire Megacoaster trains are. I'm just not seeing that problem, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rill'o'beily Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I would personally guess that they are the same kind of restraints as on bluefire. Mainly because it's probably the same kind of car they tested on bluefire, because since mack owns europa park they can freely test on those coasters there. And developing a brand new type of car isn't cheap. It really isn't cheap. So most likely they wanted to test it on bluefire before putting it on a brand new coaster to: A: Test how enjoyable it is (if it is painful, etc.) B: See how it works with the track C: Other related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krikey Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 If Mack were to build trains for a spinning coaster that would have inversions, I would expect them to build more heavy duty trains, such as the ones seen in the spinning Blue Fire test video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Considering coasters are typically planned two years prior to being built, you'd think they would've done the blue fire test a couple of years ago if this ride is to have the same trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 ^Do we know when Mack did the spinning car test? The video was released at IAAPA, but for all we know the test could have been done long ago. I'm not saying it was, just mentioning it as a theory. Â Spinning or not, this coaster looks like it's going to be absolute bonkers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 ^Do we know when Mack did the spinning car test? The video was released at IAAPA, but for all we know the test could have been done long ago. I'm not saying it was, just mentioning it as a theory. Yeah, I'm in the camp that the video was shot pretty close to the IAAPA Attractions Expo, otherwise we would have heard about it, right? They made a big deal back when they first stuck virtual reality headsets on Blue Fire, and that was a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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