Woodie Warrior Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Anyone else feel this would work much better as a flying coaster? Hear me out. Between this and Wild Eagle at Dollywood, it's like the parks aren't sure what a wingrider is best used for. That is close calls with the environmental elements around the ride. Raptor does this perfectly, as do a few of the other ones (Gatekeeper). Thunderbird here will have the barn, sure, but the vast majority of the ride is spent on oversized elements that do nothing to enhance the design of the train. Imagine if you went through this same layout on the flyer trains. The launch would be spectacular into that immelmann! The large, swooping turns that are high up would also be great! It's a nice design and definitely going to be a hit, but I feel like they just planted the wrong train on the track. I really hope this is complete sarcasm. Like, seriously. It's been less than two hours. And people are already nitpicking the ride and talking about how they'd rather have a flying coaster. Edit: Did not mean for that to come out rude. I just don't see how a flying coaster would be better than a wing coaster. Thunderbird looks spectacular. The best coaster EVA? No. But will it be a game changer for both Holiday World AND B&M? Hell yes. Edited July 25, 2014 by Woodie Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Anyone else feel this would work much better as a flying coaster? Hear me out. Between this and Wild Eagle at Dollywood, it's like the parks aren't sure what a wingrider is best used for. That is close calls with the environmental elements around the ride. Raptor does this perfectly, as do a few of the other ones (Gatekeeper). Thunderbird here will have the barn, sure, but the vast majority of the ride is spent on oversized elements that do nothing to enhance the design of the train. Imagine if you went through this same layout on the flyer trains. The launch would be spectacular into that immelmann! The large, swooping turns that are high up would also be great! It's a nice design and definitely going to be a hit, but I feel like they just planted the wrong train on the track. I really hope this is complete sarcasm. Like, seriously. It's been less than two hours. And people are already nitpicking the ride and talking about how they'd rather have a flying coaster. If that's how they feel then they should go find a flyer and ride it. This is NOT a flyer and never will be. This IS a great addition to HW. I still haven't been on a wingrider but a launch on one of those seems like it would be really fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I knew it was only a matter of time before B&M had to give in and get into the launched coaster realm. Glad to see them branching out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nannerdw Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They could make a show out of this, called "Orange is the New Track." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Anybody know who the guy interviewing the audience before the announcement was? He was hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I really hope this is complete sarcasm. Like, seriously. It's been less than two hours. And people are already nitpicking the ride and talking about how they'd rather have a flying coaster. Edit: Did not mean for that to come out rude. I just don't see how a flying coaster would be better than a wing coaster. Thunderbird looks spectacular. The best coaster EVA? No. But will it be a game changer for both Holiday World AND B&M? Hell yes. I'm not nitpicking, nor would I have preferred a flyer. Nor am I targeting Holiday World. It's something I've noticed that's a shame since Raptor is such a great ride but the thing that MAKES it great (the constant close calls, interaction with the plaza, geysers and fountains galore) hasn't been embraced. Personally I couldn't care less about whether it's a flyer or a wingrider. They're both sub-par experiences unless they're done right (and I have yet to see a flyer done right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollin_n_coastin Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Anyone else feel this would work much better as a flying coaster? Hear me out. Between this and Wild Eagle at Dollywood, it's like the parks aren't sure what a wingrider is best used for. That is close calls with the environmental elements around the ride. Raptor does this perfectly, as do a few of the other ones (Gatekeeper). Thunderbird here will have the barn, sure, but the vast majority of the ride is spent on oversized elements that do nothing to enhance the design of the train. Imagine if you went through this same layout on the flyer trains. The launch would be spectacular into that immelmann! The large, swooping turns that are high up would also be great! It's a nice design and definitely going to be a hit, but I feel like they just planted the wrong train on the track. I really hope this is complete sarcasm. Like, seriously. It's been less than two hours. And people are already nitpicking the ride and talking about how they'd rather have a flying coaster. I thought Kyle's comment was a good discussion topic for a roller coaster forum, especially about one just launched with some great animations--how about maybe discussing/ answering the question, which wasn't at all malicious? Could this type of layout work for a flying coaster? Speaking to large elements, so far I think the best application of a Wing Coaster has been Fluch der Demonen because it is the opposite--compact and makes great use of the winged seating through all the comparatively tight twists and turns--the effect is really great. Large winged coasters like this and Gatekeeper really are more of a "journey" for sure. This ride is going to look great at the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfTheWills Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Anyone else feel this would work much better as a flying coaster? Nope. Hear me out. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilrider Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 ^^I think the OP made a valid point, as yes, some of those elements would be cool if possible on a flyer, but having both a wing coaster and a flyer at my home park, I would take the wing coaster any day, and there is no way this coaster is better as a flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nwstone Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Really cool looki coaster. I totally called the orange track! The coaster looks cool, hope it roars. I also like how the dog goes off before the launch. The theming looks cool. Interesting name though. I was expecting a two syllable name. The _____. Like you have voyage raven and legend that all had two syllables so interesting that they broke the streak. I honestly don't care though the one thing though that I thought was interesting was the choice of color for the trains. I don't think I would've chosen that color scheme. Besides all that, I have more positive things to say than negative. This will he a Great addition. Launch, inversions, and different seating style. Perfect. I can't wait to see your coaster analysis on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollin_n_coastin Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 ^^I think the OP made a valid point, as yes, some of those elements would be cool if possible on a flyer, but having both a wing coaster and a flyer at my home park, I would take the wing coaster any day, and there is no way this coaster is better as a flyer. Definitely agreed with that when comparing to flyers. Not to mention how much more comfortable the wing coasters are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propeller Factory Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Anybody know who the guy interviewing the audience before the announcement was? He was hilarious! Ikr he really used his time well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nwstone Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Ok sorry to double post but I'm going to give my opinion. I was surprised in a good way seeing that this was a wingrider over a flyer. Also, the colors and station are beautiful and I love all of the farm theming around the ride. As for the ride itself, it looks awesome, it is short but sweet and I love the near miss through the house and how it crosses the voyage, and that Immelmann !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 In regards to the costs comments, I think its important to realize that Holiday World clearly took a different approach with this ride. This isn't a ride plopped on a flat plot of land then covered with grass on the bottom and a bare-bones station (ala Six Flags and Cedar Fair). I am really glad HW is doing this expansion right and adding a really well themed area that will bring great atmosphere to the park, and differentiate the ride even more. Bravo, Holiday World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Also about the cost of the ride: I know the Voyage's construction cost was very little compared to $22 million. But I'm guessing the annual retracking has probably tripled the amount by now. Steel coasters don't ever require retracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPSFMMCW Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Who remembers the good ole days of when we were convinced we wouldn't be seeing a launched B&M for a LONG time? Now B&M has just gone up a level in terms of how much I like them. They now are manufacturing almost every single coaster type. They've mos recently added giga, family, and now launched. I hope it works out well for them. And lets hope that there aren't any problems with tightening best restraints. I'm also interested in hearing how people will like the voyage now that it has track flying over part of it. That, and the new view to look at from the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have just updated the announcement page with more videos. Click: http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1476988#p1476988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeykaise Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I really thought the tribute to Will on the side of the station is an awesome touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargersmichael Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 It is kind of amusing to see the reactions from the ride release as it seemed most people were..."I really hope it is not a B&M Wing Coaster" and now everyone is sticking up for the wing coaster if someone bashes the new ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil009 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all, right? I will hold my peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCF Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Why are people saying this is a family thrill ride at 60 MPH and 140 ft. height? I believe this should be considered a thrill ride, period. The height restriction will be lower than an average thrill ride, but this is a thrill ride at a family park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleparks77 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 So I'm assuming the trains having only 5 cars is to make the launch possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atter Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I wish I could ride this next year. Live too far away. It looks so stunning! I love the look of the station and the surrounding area. I'm surprised Holiday World isn't themeing the cars to a bird. Every other wing coaster has done some minor themeing to the cars, but these are just plain looking,oh well, it dosen't effect the ride experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheel1231 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This seems cool, too bad I'm not close to Holiday World. But then again, I'm excited since my home park is getting a giga next year, so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Wolf 90-11 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 What does a Thunderbird have to do with 66 Days at Sea? The bird in the animation with the storm and waves seemed kinda strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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