CP_RULES Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 ^Isn't there such thing as a cable launch? Yes but as mentioned there are no brake fin slots making a launching coaster out of the question. What about a hydraulic lift like Bakken's Tornado...or does that require brake fins? Why would they build a hydraulic lift when they are already good at cable lifts? There's no reason to re-invent the wheel here. It's clearly a coaster with a cable lift, there's really no discussing that farther unless something else shows up on site to prove otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 ^Isn't there such thing as a cable launch? Yes but as mentioned there are no brake fin slots making a launching coaster out of the question. What about a hydraulic lift like Bakken's Tornado...or does that require brake fins? Why would they build a hydraulic lift when they are already good at cable lifts? There's no reason to re-invent the wheel here. It's clearly a coaster with a cable lift, there's really no discussing that farther unless something else shows up on site to prove otherwise. Uhh...notice he didnt say "make a hydraulic lift from stratch" He is saying using one LIKE on a coaster that is already existed therefore it is already a coaster with a hydraulic lift. Jarvis "the wheel apparently has been re-invented" Morant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP_RULES Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ^Either way, the lift track on Tornado at Bakken looks nothing like the track from KD. In fact, it seems to look much more like Millenium Force's track (as previously mentioned. And of course there's always the direct text from the Intamin website that states that a giga coaster's "vehicles are pulled up the lift by means of a catch car, which is connected to a steel cable system. The cable guiding and hoisting unit uses well proven technology from the Swiss Cable Car Industry. Intamin has developed an innovative and unique system in order to pick up the train while still located in the horizontal load position, without the use of a secondary drive system. This guarantees a smooth acceleration and transition into the 45 degree steep lift." So once again, it's clearly a coaster with a cable lift, there's really no discussing that farther unless something else shows up on site to prove otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ...Launch lift... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboard83 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Well...Its not TOO much to add to the conversation, but I can say where the track is coming from! It's coming from Norfolk International Terminals in...well, you should be able to guess the city . I got the opportunity to drive next to the track in traffic in Norfolk today. SUCH an honor haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5871 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The weekly update from KDFansite's/Coaster Crew's Clint Novak: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCS Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Lift hill crest folks. http://www.kdfansite.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=929&fullsize=1 Look at that beefy track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ^Good find, that's clearly for a curved launch section though! Joking aside, I think that settles the launching debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCS Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ^Good find, that's clearly for a curved launch section though! Joking aside, I think that settles the launching debate yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher1095 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I'm confused. Not that I think this coaster is going to be launched, but if we've been seeing the same cable lift design for 2 weeks, and now the top of it arrives with the same design, I'm not sure how this settles it. It's the top. All coasters, launched or lifted, have tops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback'09 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 The lift section and crest of the hill look very similar to MF. I think its pretty safe to say that it is probably going to be a cable lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 ^But you can see the groove in the track for the cable on the top piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccron10 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Typically launched coasters aren't launched on an incline (except for Maverick, but that uses LSM). Doing so probably wouldn't be good on the crest of the hill and it would produce insane airtime and speed at the base....unless.... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher1095 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 ^But you can see the groove in the track for the cable on the top piece Ok, there's proof. Yeah, I didn't see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewFoley Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I went back and yeah, I do see now that it is going to be a cable lift. I was just asking a question--whatever--it was my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 ...launched cable lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 The only way to beat MF's airtime drop is to launch it over the crest of the first hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher1095 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 ^ That would be AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteocrepaldi Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I didn't find any major airtime in Millennium Force first drop. I was so disappointed. I really hope they can make this one better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragsterfan420 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I didn't find any major airtime in Millennium Force first drop. I was so disappointed. I really hope they can make this one better! Sit in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteocrepaldi Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 That's what I did. Back seat at night. Still no airtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoot12 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 ^I always got the feeling that MF wasn't really about airtime and more the sensation of speed, which I don't mind too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewFoley Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I wonder if the new coaster is going to have a black out moment like at the bottom of Millie's first drop. Only time I've momentarily blacked out on a coaster (I haven't been to Germany to try a Schwarz multi-looper). I'm sure there will be some greying out though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffonluv Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I just hope it's not a total bust. (like many other KD rides) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoot12 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 ^Just curious, but what other KD rides do you consider busts? The big one that comes to my mind is Hypersonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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