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^ This is actually a new version of map Cedar Fair was attempting last season at KD and it seems like it is here to stay after working out the kinks and complaints guests had about it. Surprisingly, it is much more realistic compared to the typical Cedar Fair version that the park had from 2008 - 2013.

 

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2013 park map

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I was just thinking, what if KD got an Intamin Hyper Coaster just called "Fury". It would kind of be like the whole Intimidator/I305 thing we've got going on with Carowinds. Plus, since Carowinds's Giga is taller than ours, our Hyper would be taller than theirs. I would love to see someone make a concept design on NL2. I can't since I'm awful at it.

 

EDIT: I know this won't happen, but why not use out imaginations?

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While enthusiasts would be all for an Intamin hyper, Kings Dominion is probably the one park in the world that it really would be overly redundant. Intamin hasn't really changed their hyper style since 2010 (Skyrush as an example... intense turns and ejector airtime), so it really could be a 2/3 scale custom version of I-305. A B&M hyper might work at the park, but even then, downsizing from giga to hyper for the "new" coaster might not work too well. For Carowinds, Canada's Wonderland, and Cedar Point it was a logical progression of 200 feet than 300 feet (plus 400 at CP), but 300 to 200 might not pull the crowds.

 

If Kings Dominion were to look at B&M for their next coaster, a wing coaster, dive coaster, or possibly an invert would be solid options, IMO.

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Park maps have never been too helpful for me. They're too out of scale to really figure things out other than general area of the park.

The sizes of the rides might not be that accurate, but it actually looks like a decent map. One you could actually use. The previous map was pretty much just a coaster cartoon. This actually looks good.

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I was just thinking, what if KD got an Intamin Hyper Coaster just called "Fury". It would kind of be like the whole Intimidator/I305 thing we've got going on with Carowinds. Plus, since Carowinds's Giga is taller than ours, our Hyper would be taller than theirs. I would love to see someone make a concept design on NL2. I can't since I'm awful at it.

 

EDIT: I know this won't happen, but why not use out imaginations?

I hope your actually right but it would be redundant unless you build an Intamin hyper that is designed to be like Expedition GeForce or Bizarro. The ride would need to focused on airtime to actually work at the park. I personally really want more Intamins in the US too many B&Ms right now.

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I was thinking along the lines of Bizzaro (SFNE) or Goliath at Walibi Holland. I was looking at Google maps, and I saw a potential spot to put it. Remove Avalanche and have it extend to the left toward the parking lot. If you look on maps you'll see what I mean (unless I wasn't clear enough).

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I feel like KD's next coaster will be a front gate impression. So maybe an inverted coaster that's a mix between Banshee and Gatekeeper.

 

I feel like the reason KD hasn't gotten a B&M invert like almost if not EVERY Cedar Fair Park is because the count Volcano as their invert. I could, however, see a Winged Coaster in 2016. I still would like to see an Intamin Hyper. Cedar Fair seems to like to do the Giga and Hyper in one park gimmick, but they haven't done one with Intamin before. And hopefully they'll call it Fury (awesome name) and give it F325's colors (awesome color scheme).

 

The way I see it, here are my three possibilities for 2016:

B&M invert (Worlds tallest. Sorry, Alpengeist. Don't worry, you're still my favorite)

B&M winged (goes over front entrance)

Intamin Hyper (goes over front entrance)

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I believe KD is satisfied with Dominator as the front statement (yellow loop FTW!) and Matt Ouimet has stated he likes the Kings Island and Kings Dominion iconic entries more than the majority across the chain. I could see some refurbishments going on to freshen up the area's existing buildings, but I highly doubt KD would see a Carowinds/Cedar Point change anytime soon.

 

Even though B&M has been the popular trend across the chain, KD has proven to be the unique one of the former Paramount Parks with the Intimidator 305 addition (GoldStriker was put in due to its cheapness...), so I could possibly see something besides a B&M going in next, especially with B&M likely already building Dive Coaster Hawk 225 at Cedar Point next season.

 

Although I would gladly accept a new custom B&M with open arms, KD's collection is unique, so Cedar Fair could keep it that way and experiment with other coaster companies besides B&M here. It does make sense, especially with the competitors Busch and Six Flags nearby. Plus, there's that mythical intimidating dangerous FBI top-secret B&M Busch Gardens contract.

 

Hopefully, 2016 rumors will begin to fly around once the gates open up this season although KD's secrets are usually kept pretty well. I mean, they kept the giga a secret until the label on the track said "GIGA" in the parking lot.

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I wonder if this style of park map will be for all of the other Cedar Fair parks because Carowinds' 2015 park map is very similar to this.

Where did you see that at? I tried looking for it and couldn't see it. I would love to see the new 2015 Carowinds map!

I'd post it, but I don't know the direct source of it. Even if I did, I don't have the permission to post it. Carowinds tweeted that the map would come out sometime this week, so I'm assuming it'll be tomorrow or Sunday.

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I've heard that shockwave is the park's most reliable coaster, and that they have tons of parts for it, now that the other two togo stand ups have been dismantled. Hurler too is probably not a big deal to operate.

 

Hopefully 2016 brings something neat to the park.

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I was just thinking, what if KD got an Intamin Hyper Coaster just called "Fury". It would kind of be like the whole Intimidator/I305 thing we've got going on with Carowinds. Plus, since Carowinds's Giga is taller than ours, our Hyper would be taller than theirs. I would love to see someone make a concept design on NL2. I can't since I'm awful at it.

 

EDIT: I know this won't happen, but why not use out imaginations?

 

This link shows Cedar Fair has "Fury" and "Fury 325" as two different trademarks, if you look at the second row down. The "Fury" name trademark without the "325" in the title is currently not being used. ........ So it must be trademarked for a future attraction. I think this idea could actually turn out to happen!

 

http://www.trademarkia.com/company-cedar-fair-lp-222594-page-1-2

 

(Note: this is just speculation and I have have no background information for any unannounced Kings Dominion future attractions).

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I was just thinking, what if KD got an Intamin Hyper Coaster just called "Fury". It would kind of be like the whole Intimidator/I305 thing we've got going on with Carowinds. Plus, since Carowinds's Giga is taller than ours, our Hyper would be taller than theirs. I would love to see someone make a concept design on NL2. I can't since I'm awful at it.

 

EDIT: I know this won't happen, but why not use out imaginations?

 

This link shows Cedar Fair has "Fury" and "Fury 325" as two different trademarks on the second row down, where "Fury" is currently being unused. I think this idea could possibly turn out to happen.

http://www.trademarkia.com/company-cedar-fair-lp-222594-page-1-2

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I was just thinking, what if KD got an Intamin Hyper Coaster just called "Fury". It would kind of be like the whole Intimidator/I305 thing we've got going on with Carowinds. Plus, since Carowinds's Giga is taller than ours, our Hyper would be taller than theirs. I would love to see someone make a concept design on NL2. I can't since I'm awful at it.

 

EDIT: I know this won't happen, but why not use out imaginations?

I think a B&M hyper would be more likely since they already have Intimidator 305, but a new coaster called Fury at KD wouldn't be a bad idea.

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I wonder if this style of park map will be for all of the other Cedar Fair parks because Carowinds' 2015 park map is very similar to this.

Where did you see that at? I tried looking for it and couldn't see it. I would love to see the new 2015 Carowinds map!

I'd post it, but I don't know the direct source of it. Even if I did, I don't have the permission to post it. Carowinds tweeted that the map would come out sometime this week, so I'm assuming it'll be tomorrow or Sunday.

Thanks! I'll be sure to check on the Carowinds site if they updated it yet. I'm just ready to map out my day of fun!

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The name Fury won't be coming to Kings Dominion. It was specifically chosen for Carowinds since Charlotte is known as the Queen City, Buzz City, and the Hornets were returning so it made perfect sense for Carowinds. 'Fury' was trademarked first, then 'Fury 325' was later on, so I'm sure that they figured if they were building the tallest giga in the world why not put the height at the end of the name.

 

The Intimidator names were both used since 1.) they were paying for the licensing anyways, why not use it to its fullest 2.) both Richmond and Charlotte are known for racing 3.) Dick Kinzel.

 

Ever since Matt Ouimet has taken over, theming seems more important and new additions make sense with the areas of the parks - I doubt he would have supported a NASCAR theme in the Congo/Safari Village area of Kings Dominion... but thanks anyways for the best coaster in the world Dick Kinzel!

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