Kings Dominion (KD) Discussion Thread

[Sebascoaster]

Where I can find more pictures of this?

[braztaz]

^There hasn't been any definitive proof that they are re-profiling the ride, so lets stop discussing this like it is a done deal. So far, all they have done is remove track. That's it.

 

Well, what do you think they're doing?

 

(Not trying to be mean, honest question)

[Mastersax68]

I was going to ask about trims, but it seems kind of un-logical. I would think a problem arose with that piece or two of track, and they are replacing them. Just my hypothesis, though.

[ernierocker]

 

Well, what do you think they're doing?

 

(Not trying to be mean, honest question)

 

I think they are removing track. I have no clue beyond that.

[braztaz]

^Fair enough.

[Tmcdllr]

By the way it looks this is going to be great for I305. The main reason i didn't go to KD this year was because of the trim brake and I was hoping they would fix the problem in the offseason. It seems like they did not wait to get started! I hope this repair will eliminate the trims from the first drop. That drop looks to sexy to be covered up like that. haha

 

 

Not at all trying to knock you here (honest!) - I just find it interesting that something like a trim brake on, what seems to be in most accounts, a pretty amazing new ride kept you out of the park entirely?

 

Yeah, how many awesome rides and experiences must have been missed because of something as silly as a trim brake. Really, a trim brake kept you from visiting an entire park and riding one of the most awesome coasters built? Wow that is astonishing.

 

So with most coasters having trim brakes I guess that means you don't go to any parks.

[redfoot12]

But how many people ride any ride before the general public? I dont know anything about anything other than if the ride wasnt fully tested enough for the state board to sign off on it wouldnt have open. Im just glad I got to ride it without the added trims...

 

I spoke with Pat Jones I305's opening weekend and she gave me the impression that it was quite the feat to have the ride running opening weekend.

[KDCOASTERFAN]

^You are correct many rides are not fully tested with people, beyond necessary safety tests.

 

Because that's all that is required by the state to issue an operating permit.

 

I don't think this has to do with trying to find a solution to the trims on the first drop as the park will keep them in place if that's what's needed to keep the ride operational,also they don't need to remove the second hill to get to the turn as they can easily bring in a crane from the southside of the ride area & simply remove the closest section & go from there.

[Guy T. Koepp]

^There hasn't been any definitive proof that they are re-profiling the ride, so lets stop discussing this like it is a done deal. So far, all they have done is remove track. That's it.

 

Well, what do you think they're doing?

 

(Not trying to be mean, honest question)

 

 

Based solely on my scientific analysis of the picture as well as my vast technological knowledge of roller coaster engineering and structure. I deduce they are doing something to I305 that involves a crane and removing track.

[braztaz]

^You, sir, have changed my life in ways you couldn't imagine.

[Hayzle]

Indeed

[Guy T. Koepp]

^You, sir, have changed my life in ways you couldn't imagine.

 

People say that to me all the time. Especially tha ladies!

[CoasterEricHP]

Really guys.. I think it's pretty clear what they are doing..

Intimidated 185

[robbalvey]

^There hasn't been any definitive proof that they are re-profiling the ride, so lets stop discussing this like it is a done deal. So far, all they have done is remove track. That's it.

 

Well, what do you think they're doing?

 

(Not trying to be mean, honest question)

Could be a number of many, many things...

 

Everything from totally re-profiling that drop to x-ray testing for stress fractures to removing it to play tiddly winks with. The point is, no one here on this forum actually knows. And until we hear something, or, not hear something in the case that it might actually be NOTHING, no one is really going to know.

 

I mean, why isn't everyone freaking out over the picture of the missing track on Wicked Twister that was posted a coulpe of pages back? That could very well be replacing that twist with straight track! OMG!!! I see this being no different.

[STR8FXXXINEDGE]

I always thought an easy fix for i305 would be to put a tunnel over the first turn. This way people wouldn't know if they are greying/blacking out

 

This made me laugh, and it also makes me wonder if it would actually trick some people.

[jray21]

removing it to play tiddly winks with.

That made my evening!

[downunder]

^There hasn't been any definitive proof that they are re-profiling the ride, so lets stop discussing this like it is a done deal. So far, all they have done is remove track. That's it.

 

Sorry about that, with all that I've heard about the problems with i305 it was almost reflex to think re-profile.

 

They are probably putting in an inversion so they can call it Exterminator 305 next year. I like the tunnel idea, I think that might work (Complaint At the Customer Service desk: "I blacked out on that ride. I mean it got dark...oh don't worry.")

 

I mean, why isn't everyone freaking out over the picture of the missing track on Wicked Twister that was posted a coulpe of pages back? That could very well be replacing that twist with straight track!

 

Maybe because it would be an improvement.

[Skycoastin Steve]

I mean, why isn't everyone freaking out over the picture of the missing track on Wicked Twister that was posted a coulpe of pages back? That could very well be replacing that twist with straight track! OMG!!! I see this being no different.

That was from preseason 2009 I believe, and the CP fansites were DEFINITELY freaking out hardcore over that piece of the spike missing. But, as was obviously the case, nothing noteworthy was done to the ride other than the piece being reconnected for the start of the season. People just love to freak out over the unknown. Personally, I like not knowing what's going on with this. Makes it more intriguing to see what (if anything) is going to happen.

[Chroniq]

I just grayed out reading ten pages of speculation....

[robbalvey]

I just grayed out reading ten pages of speculation....

Win

[Phatage]

I'm really not trying to imply anything by this question as to whether or not it is normal to remove track during the off-season while not making any modifications to it, but is there another 'case in point' picture that shows this, particularly one that isn't a 'case in Cedar Point'? I just think that WT isn't a very good example to show that removing track doesn't necessarily signify change seeing as it has had structural reinforcement in the past (and isn't the only CF Intamin coaster that needed it) and that the park has had a tall ride snap in half due to high winds. Personally, if anybody had photos of them doing something like this to a B&M ride, I think that would be cool to see. The only other steel coaster I've personally seen with track removed was when they replaced the tops of GASM's loops and the section of track leading up to the mcbr (one of the 'old' tops is still in the safari, kind of weird that it's the only standing piece of the ride now).

 

While on the topic of reinforcing the supports on CF Intamin coasters, I don't think that's what 305's track removal could be for (even though it was a large span of unsupported track there) seeing as 1) I like to think of CF as a company that learns from their mistakes and that they were one of the influences on Intamin to beef up their supports and 2) 305's track size rivals that of SD2K. As somebody mentioned before, that area of track doesn't really experience great stress compared to others so it doesn't seem likely, especially after only 1 season, that it would have to be replaced.

[Funky Cold Medina]

As I'm not really up to reading pages of speculation, I'm not sure if this has come up but I have an idea.

 

Maybe they're gonna keep searching for new wheel compounds and in the offseason they're going to see how each one fares on that piece of track so it's easier to determine what to use and what not to use? Just a thought.

[Tmcdllr]

Why would you have to remove a piece of track to do that.

[dragonskeep]

I happen to think the speculation is fun. All the speculation in the world won't change the absolute fact that they are adding an over banked turn, and since that has been confirmed as fact, I wonder how expensive that is?

 

 

Honestly the first time i saw renderings for the ride I thought that turn was going to be a problem. Millennium forces drop into a turn that low to the ground just seemed a bit too much. I know some of you guys really liked it and I probably would have to but not for the masses for sure. Hell, I have greyed out on Millennium force, and I 305's turn looked way more powerful.

 

I hope this means they are making big changes to the ride that include removing the trims from the drop. I have heard the ride is just awesome but trims on a drop marketed for the size and speed of the drop is a coaster sin. I couldn't guess about the physics but a big over bank into that first hill seems like a good fix. I hope someone can get out there today to see if they are removing any more track.

[ernierocker]

...they are adding an over banked turn, and since that has been confirmed as fact...

 

Where has it been confirmed as a fact??? Are you reading a different Kings Dominion Discussion Thread on here than I am?

Edited November 5, 2010 by ernierocker