KBrylczyk Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^^Rail ties are a good way of identifying what type of B&M track pieces are. It cant be a large dive machine because the track would be larger and the rail ties would be flat. But that massive support in the background is new, not seen one that big before. Could be part of a tower like on cheetah hunt or a support for the lifthill of the carowinds giga? You're reading wayyyyyyyyyyyy to much into this. That support is no different than anything else. The "mystery track" is obviously lift track (hence the odd ties, lowered to allow the chain track) and brake/trim track (hence the lowered spine to allow space). But if you're having fun trying to figure out the mystery, don't let me stop you. I just don't want you to get your hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 My guesses as of now White: Gardaland, Dive Machine (confirmed) Yellow: Carowinds, Giga "Fury 325" (Ties are straight like non-inverted track) Blue: China, Flyer (Ties are curved like inverts and flyers) Orange: Holiday World, Launch(?) (Track is bizarre an not recognizable among current catalog) I guess we will see, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^^Rail ties are a good way of identifying what type of B&M track pieces are. It cant be a large dive machine because the track would be larger and the rail ties would be flat. But that massive support in the background is new, not seen one that big before. Could be part of a tower like on cheetah hunt or a support for the lifthill of the carowinds giga? You're reading wayyyyyyyyyyyy to much into this. That support is no different than anything else. The "mystery track" is obviously lift track (hence the odd ties, lowered to allow the chain track) and brake/trim track (hence the lowered spine to allow space). But if you're having fun trying to figure out the mystery, don't let me stop you. I just don't want you to get your hopes up. That may well be true, but if it was the top of a lift hill then everything for the chain would already be there. And youre looking at the correct support right? That is in no way normal size. The person who provided the photos noticed it was large also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Yellow: Carowinds, Giga "Fury 325" (Ties are straight like non-inverted track) Blue: China, Flyer (Ties are curved like inverts and flyers) It's quite hard to see but wasn't it supposed to be the other way round? Hadn't someone semi-confirmed that the yellow was for china? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^yeah that's right. Is there actually blue track there though? I can only see blue supports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfTheWills Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^^Rail ties are a good way of identifying what type of B&M track pieces are. It cant be a large dive machine because the track would be larger and the rail ties would be flat. But that massive support in the background is new, not seen one that big before. Could be part of a tower like on cheetah hunt or a support for the lifthill of the carowinds giga? You're reading wayyyyyyyyyyyy to much into this. That support is no different than anything else. The "mystery track" is obviously lift track (hence the odd ties, lowered to allow the chain track) and brake/trim track (hence the lowered spine to allow space). But if you're having fun trying to figure out the mystery, don't let me stop you. I just don't want you to get your hopes up. If it was lift track would the white lift track look similar and vice versa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) ...youre looking at the correct support right? That is in no way normal size. The person who provided the photos noticed it was large also. See here Behemoth at Canada's Wonderland. BFF (big fat f%#@) supports. The support is just about the same size as the track spine. Now look at the support in the first photo of the Flickr album. Same size. Leviathan. Also Canada's Wonderland. Same story. http://themeparkreview.com/parks/pimages/Six_Flags_Great_Adventure/TPRs_Road_to_Cedar_Point_Tour_2011/great_adventure_065.jpg Look at those beefy bastards. Nitro at Great Adventure. The only reason that one support seems to be oversize is because it's right next to smaller supports. In comparison it looks huge. In reality it's no different than normal. Here's the smaller size supports - Shall I continue? Edited July 3, 2014 by KBrylczyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^Yes, you are correct in that the support is just a large support. But that track isn't part of a lift hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^yeah that's right. Is there actually blue track there though? I can only see blue supports The teal one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^^ Edited the post to quote your original for reference. There were 3 replies while I got those images together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^Oh i see, but i agree with you on the supports yeah. Then again, if the teal is most likely going to be for Carowinds, the yellow for the flyer and the white already confirmed for Gardaland then this leaves the red track for Holiday world or Efteling right? if that is actually a B&M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) Source Sheikra track. RCDB Dive Coaster? This is most likely something with a wide train (Dive/Wing). Those are the only type of B&M tracks that I've found that prodominently use flat cross ties Edited July 3, 2014 by JonnyRCT3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfTheWills Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^I still don't think so unless this orange/red dive is of a different structural track design from the white one. The spines and ties still look different from the example red dive in the photo above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravity55 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^^ Lets say the HW coaster is a B&M launched coaster, wouldn't the launched section have to look something similar to that with LSM's or LIM's running through the brake fins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ^Not necessarily. RCDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 ^I still don't think so unless this orange/red dive is of a different structural track design from the white one. The spines and ties still look different from the example red dive in the photo above. It's possible that it could be just a few pieces with that new rail tie design. But the track doesn't match up either, most evidence is pointing towards something new here, as you said. The large dive machine has very wide track, larger than those pictured. With the white track going to Gardaland and Eftelings dive coaster only being 120ft tall that means it'll have the small track if it is B&M. This track doesn't show any characteristics of a small dive machine, and if it is then why would B&M be changing the track design again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 ^^I think it would look more like krake's brake run (which I can't find a picture of) as they probably would use LSMs rather than LIMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 ^ The ties are still the "standard" ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 ^Oh, thanks. That's the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCT3Bross Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Source Anyone noticed this? These ties look just normal (except the part that the spine is further away). Let's say these are the same coaster. Makes me think more into the different ties. This could have been calculated that it needed the opening with the train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 ^the Person who provided the pictures said those different rail toes weren't consistent on all the pieces. That piece in the background looks certainly part of a break run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterchitchat Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 robbalvey, could you please rename this forum to "The B&M Factory"? Thanks. This is what's its really about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKoaster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Maybe GADV is finally getting their dive coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVA62 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Went by CSF today, nothing much new outside. I was hoping to get some better pictures of the stacked pieces but they have been moved/shipped. I had some trouble uploading my photos so I put them on a Flickr page. https://www.flickr.com/photos/125246236@N04/sets/72157645175880899/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atter Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 ^Based on those pictures, I don't see the teal track going to Carowinds like some have said, unless they're building a giga coaster with an inversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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