themeparkman25 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 ^Well ya, but like I feel that that definitely should not happen (obviously). I can see an air leak or something being a regular and smaller occurrence, but I don't get how an air tank just explodes on a coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie200330 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I would imagine there to be a lot of pressure building up to get the train to that speed,and the tank just couldn't hold it.I am glad all of this is happening before they let people on the damn thing. Could you imagine sitting there waiting to launch and them BAM ........helluva launch LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfan21 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I'm just happy that no one got hurt I mean that could have been a serious accident if there were people on it. robinschroder:I wonder if it will ever actually take the 'world's fastest' record before the F1 coaster at the Ferrari Experience opens in 2010! Same here, but from one of the pictures that they took of what looks to be part of the launch mechanism it looks pretty serious. Only time will tell. Not to mention how long Kingda Ka was down when it had its "major" accident right after it opened. I know they are two different types of accidents and coasters but both still use some serious force to accelerate the train. If this is anything as bad as they seem to be making it, this might be a very long fix I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkman25 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ^And very expensive, which I would imagine S&S would pay for, but still not cheap. You would think that with S&S trying to make a name for themselves in the industry, they would be really trying to make quality products. This is pretty rep damaging in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-RadG Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ^Especially after having so many problems with the prototype. Dodonpa doesn't have those problems, does it? So S&S seems to have air launches down (Shot Towers, Dodonpa) so what exactly went wrong? I got my friend who speaks German to translate parts of the article and it was something about explosion... in which case one of the air tanks just went poof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Yikes! That looks pretty bad... I keep opening this thread, hoping to find reports that the coaster has opened and is running the way it's supposed to, but the only thing that is ever posted seems to be bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 New press articles say that the park lied when they said no one was injured. A few workers close to the coaster had problems with the ears after the loud explosion and needed medical attention. One worker already got an ear operation in a clinic. So thats an accident you really don't want to be close to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbcoasterfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 So before the accident, did they ever actually get it up to the full launch speed? All the videos I've seen look really slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haiderodes Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I saw this ride on that Extreme Rides Mega Speed show they had on Travel Channel the other night. The show made it seem like it was open and running normally. Guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 The coaster only ran on a press day with a slower speed. It never officially opened till now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfan21 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ^^ Ya same here. I was surprised to see it on that show looking like it was in full operation, and now hear of this major incident before it even opens to the public. Hopefully more details of what went wrong will come out in the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Thriller Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Anyone want to make some bets on which coaster will open first? Flying Turns vrs. Ring Racer --James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfan21 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ^ My bet is for Laser Snake Horse on Fire lol, but seriously, I hope that S&S can work out the kinks with their launched coasters because they have not had a very good track record with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 hope that S&S can work out the kinks with their launched coasters because they have not had a very good track record with them. That seems to be the case with lots of their rides. The El Loco that just got built at Flamingoland is constantly experiencing downtime for really silly in-built reasons, and the Combo Tower at the same park took the last 4 years to actually be able to run on full combo mode... Booooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 ^That sounds like more of a problem with Flamingo Land than S&S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I too saw the program on tv showing Ring Racer operating and I had no idea it was even ready to run. I am only a little surprised that it is experiencing difficulties, S&S is one of the few attraction-building companies that has some cohones to build something this fast and it seems like every time someone goes for a speed record there's hell to pay... TTD, KK... I at least give S&S credit for making insane designs like the El Loco, even if they take a while to work the bugs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkman25 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 ^Ha ha, cahones to build the fastest coaster in the world for the winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbit Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 http://www.general-anzeiger-bonn.de/index.php?k=loka&itemid=10001&detailid=635495 does someone speak German language? after the explotie, the crew who are on that location at the moment has been included to the hostpital, The costs are also negotiated out of hand. ring racer @ the moment: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groteslurf Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 ^ I understand a little bit of german, so I try to make a summary of the article. In fact, not much new information can be found in the article but here we go. "The technical problems at the Nurburgring don't seem to stop. Thursday there was again a loud explosion and again caused by Ring-Racer. The explosion was so loud, that some windows (? not sure about this word) of the presscenter building at the other side of the start/finish zone were broken. Nobody got injured. Also no cars were on the Nurburgring. This would have been very different on Friday when the Superbike WM would have started. The damage and required repairing will be anylised in the next days. Only in the beginning of the week (last week that is) , Nurburgring had announced that Ringracer would open by end this month, latest beginning next month. The impact of the next set back on the opening date is not yet known. Since mid July, a technical problem at the pneumatical launchsystem kept the rollercoaster from opening. Before that, testrides have been taking place. During a F1 weekend, even ex world champion M. Schumacher rode it. The spare parts needed to repair the technical problem, were built in only recently and Ring_racer was running testrides again since Tuesday" That's more or less it I think. So not really new information. Sorry if I would have mistakes. German nor English are my usual tongue. If I translated something wrong, don't hesitate to let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Ring Racer closed until spring 2010 Start frei für den Ringracer - aber erst im Frühjahr Nürburg Keine Experimente mehr: Nach Unfällen im Juli und September wird die Achterbahn "Ringracer" am Nürburgring erst im Frühjahr 2010 in Betrieb genommen. Das erklärte der Geschäftsführer des Freizeitparks "Ringwerk", Andreas Stickel. Den wirtschaftlichen Schaden der Nürburgring GmbH soll der Achterbahn-Hersteller tragen, die Firma "S&S Power" aus den USA. Das sei über Strafen im Kaufvertrag geregelt. Da die Kaufsumme für den Coaster, 12 Millionen Euro, noch nicht in Gänze überwiesen sei, verfüge man über Rücklagen. Einbehalten wurden laut Wirtschaftsminister Hendrik Hering (SPD) 2,3 Millionen US-Dollar. Entsprechende Vertragsstrafen wurden gegenüber dem Hersteller bereits geltend gemacht. Die Einnahmeverluste durch den Ausfall des "Ringracer" werden unterm Strich deutlich höher sein als die bisher kalkulierten 600 000 Euro: Der Betrag sei nur bis Jahresende gerechnet, stellte Hering im Wirtschaftsausschuss des Landtags klar. "Sie können ruhig sagen, dass es eine Million werden wird", meinte FDP-Fraktionsvize Günter Eymael. Er fragte auch nach der Reputation des Achterbahnbauers. Hering legte dar, dass die zu 90 Prozent dem Land gehörende Nürburgring GmbH sich bei der Ausschreibung im Frühjahr 2007 an die Vergaberegeln für öffentliche Aufträge halten und dem günstigsten von drei Bietern den Zuschlag erteilen musste. "S&S Power" habe eine Referenzliste von Coaster-Bahnen in mehreren Ländern vorgelegt. Mehr als entgangene Einnahmen beschäftigt die Macher am Ring und auch den Landtagsausschuss jedoch die Frage nach der Ursache für den zweiten Ringracer-Unfall vom 3. September. Dabei wurden sieben Menschen verletzt. Zwei davon befinden sich noch in ärztlicher Behandlung, zwei klagen weiterhin über gesundheitliche Probleme durch den im besten Wortsinne ohrenbetäubenden Knall bei dem Unfall. Dass es Verletzte gab, räumte der Ring erst Tage später ein. Auf die Frage der CDU nannte Hering als Begründung Kommunikationsverzögerungen innerhalb der Ring GmbH. Unterdessen wurde neben der Herstellerfirma, TÜV Rheinland und TÜV Nord auch noch der TÜV Süd als Gutachter hinzugezogen, um zu klären, wie es zum Versagen eines der drei Druckluftzylinder kam. Mit ersten Ergebnissen rechnet man Anfang Oktober. Wegen der langwierigen Ersatzteilbeschaffung kann der Probebetrieb ohnehin erst Ende des Jahres wieder aufgenommen werden. Die Unfälle vom Juli und September haben laut Hering "verschiedene Ursachen, aber die gleiche Fehlerquelle" - die Programmierung im Softwaresystem. Auch ohne Achterbahn müssen die Kunden des "Ring Werk" seit dem Wochenende den vollen Eintrittspreis von 19,50 Euro bezahlen. Dafür gibt es pro gekaufter Eintrittskarte ein Gratisticket für einen erneuten Besuch. Auch das wurde in der Ausschussitzung bekannt: Seit Beginn des Ausbauprojekts "Nürburgring 2009" hat sich der Personalwechsel in der Ring GmbH beschleunigt. Allein in diesem Jahr gab es durch Fluktuation 47 Wechsel bei insgesamt 147 Beschäftigten, in den Vorjahren 38 und 37. Gekündigt wurde im laufenden Jahr bisher acht Mitarbeitern, in den drei Vorjahren zwischen 12 und 15. Vier der ausgeschiedenen Mitarbeiter sind nach wie vor als Berater für den Ring tätig. Dafür flossen in den vergangenen drei Jahren Honorare von 1,54 Millionen Euro, davon allein 2009 eine gute halbe Million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeboy23 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 That is a complete blow to the park. Hopefully they can get it working fine by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinschroder Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 ^^ The article attributes blame for the July and September explosions to errors in the ride's control software. It's interesting that the byline of the article reads 'No more experiments'. No more experiments until the spring, at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Wow... Just wow. Looks like that Dubai Coaster may in fact be the world's fastest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanR Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Mhh, considering what I've hear today I think this ride might hold a very big surprise to all of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxegon Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Grrr... now I get to figure out what to do with a day trip to Frankfurt when I've already rearranged two previous trips to the area this year to avoid the Nurburgring! I'm not sure I've any credits in the area left to whore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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