Dr. M Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I have lots of crazy ideas. How about a coaster element shaped kind of like the omega symbol (riding the outside of it): Designed to deliver the most prolonged single moment of ejector airtime on the planet. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great White Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I don't know if anyone here came up with this idea but........ How about a B&M hyper with Wing coaster Trains! You would have no track below you, have a nice sensation of flying, and who would say no to airtime! The Only problem I see with this is the restraints for current winged coasters(besides gatekeeper) but I'm pretty sure B&M could find a way to fit a lap bar some where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBomer Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 ^Maybe the same trains but without the vests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypotato Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I don't know if anyone here came up with this idea but........ How about a B&M hyper with Wing coaster Trains! The vibrations on the outside seats at 75+ mph would be brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) ^Like on Furious Baco! Edited August 14, 2013 by Moose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Here's a crazy idea for you. Maybe somebody's already suggested this, but oh well I'll put it out there again. How about a launched wooden coaster? And no Intamin pre-fab either, I mean a traditional wood coaster, followed by a shallow hill a la Maverick's second launch. By the time you reach full speed the whole thing feels like it's going to shake itself apart. That would be awesome. I've built a launched wooden coaster on NoLimits. It's really twisty while still having a lot of hills designed for . I could probably post it to the Game Exchange if anybody wanted me to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peeps28 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 there running coasters backwards now to change things up.how bot flipping the seats upside down on all the drop towers.getting blasted into the air on power tower looking strait at the sky would have to be a rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenFreeze Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 ^I think it would be cool to see a drop tower like Falcon's Fury, but with seats tilting to face up at the sky instead of down at the ground. Free falling backwards, seeing nothing but the sky and tower would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 An accelerator coaster (Stealth/Xcelerator) with an inside Top-hat. I can see one of these newer chinese parks going for something like this. It launches , and inverts (worlds tallest) which would get their name out there. Kills two birds with one stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysairtime14 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 An accelerator coaster (Stealth/Xcelerator) with an inside Top-hat. I can see one of these newer chinese parks going for something like this. It launches , and inverts (worlds tallest) which would get their name out there. Kills two birds with one stone. And if it stalls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hriscay Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 An accelerator coaster (Stealth/Xcelerator) with an inside Top-hat. I can see one of these newer chinese parks going for something like this. It launches , and inverts (worlds tallest) which would get their name out there. Kills two birds with one stone. And if it stalls... Roller Coasters have been stuck upside down before. I would assume there would have to be some type of LIM or motor for that reason that would only activate if it sensed the ride was going only 2 mph through the inversion. Besides how many times have the conditions been so perfect for it to occur. Then again, 1 time may be too many for any american park to do... China on the other hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 An accelerator coaster (Stealth/Xcelerator) with an inside Top-hat. I can see one of these newer chinese parks going for something like this. It launches , and inverts (worlds tallest) which would get their name out there. Kills two birds with one stone. And if it stalls... Inverted top hats exist (see: Mr. Freeze and the Chillers from SFGAdv), and it isn't a problem - and they make it over twice each go-around. The only reason the accelerators stall is because their launched to a speed that's just fast enough to crest the top, otherwise it'd be way uncomfortable. You can apply a lot more positive Gs to the body than you can negative, so inverted top hats are fine to be taken at higher speeds that don't allow the train to stall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kailisun98 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 A B&M coaster that runs two different trains. Floorless & Wing. It could be done! I'm not so sure about that. The B&M Floorless coasters have a narrower track than the Wing coasters. Maybe one coaster with the Dive Machine Trains and the Winged train would work. A winged coaster with a 90 degree drop!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 An accelerator coaster (Stealth/Xcelerator) with an inside Top-hat. I can see one of these newer chinese parks going for something like this. It launches , and inverts (worlds tallest) which would get their name out there. Kills two birds with one stone. And if it stalls... Inverted top hats exist (see: Mr. Freeze and the Chillers from SFGAdv), and it isn't a problem - and they make it over twice each go-around. The only reason the accelerators stall is because their launched to a speed that's just fast enough to crest the top, otherwise it'd be way uncomfortable. You can apply a lot more positive Gs to the body than you can negative, so inverted top hats are fine to be taken at higher speeds that don't allow the train to stall. Yep, that's exactly what I was getting at (Mr. Freeze). But one at 200+ feet. Worlds tallest inversion,the first inversion to top 200', and the worlds tallest looping coaster. A B&M coaster that runs two different trains. Floorless & Wing. It could be done! I'm not so sure about that. The B&M Floorless coasters have a narrower track than the Wing coasters. Maybe one coaster with the Dive Machine Trains and the Winged train would work. A winged coaster with a 90 degree drop!!!! If they could figure out a way to modify the chassis, I'm sure it could work. I don't see how a full-length wing coaster train could work on a dive machine drop. The sharpness of the drop would probably tear a wing coaster train apart(but at least you'd get some crazy ejector air before you die ). If it were to have a 90* drop, the sharpness of the drop would have to be less (which would most likely call for the coaster to be much taller so it can comfortably & efficently achieve a 90* angle) or the trains would have to be shortened. And for a winged train, the capacity would be very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hriscay Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 An accelerator coaster (Stealth/Xcelerator) with an inside Top-hat. I can see one of these newer chinese parks going for something like this. It launches , and inverts (worlds tallest) which would get their name out there. Kills two birds with one stone. And if it stalls... Inverted top hats exist (see: Mr. Freeze and the Chillers from SFGAdv), and it isn't a problem - and they make it over twice each go-around. The only reason the accelerators stall is because their launched to a speed that's just fast enough to crest the top, otherwise it'd be way uncomfortable. You can apply a lot more positive Gs to the body than you can negative, so inverted top hats are fine to be taken at higher speeds that don't allow the train to stall. My assumption would be he's thinking about just an inside tophat that only goes through once then continues along some path. The same rules as all accelerators would then apply, just enough to clear the hill. Mr. Freeze has the Lim motors to push it up the spike so it has enough speed to clear the track in reverse. If the only motor was the launch, I highly doubt the ride would ever make it back around. As for the chiller though, it must have been launched fast enough to make it forward then through the tack in reverse, I don't think they had additional Lim's, I may be mistaken. I believes he's imagining TTD or Kingda Ka with an inside top hat. **Edit** I see now that this is not what he was referring to. Nonetheless, I've always wanted to see something like TTD with an inside tophat built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 An accelerator coaster (Stealth/Xcelerator) with an inside Top-hat. I can see one of these newer chinese parks going for something like this. It launches , and inverts (worlds tallest) which would get their name out there. Kills two birds with one stone. And if it stalls... Inverted top hats exist (see: Mr. Freeze and the Chillers from SFGAdv), and it isn't a problem - and they make it over twice each go-around. The only reason the accelerators stall is because their launched to a speed that's just fast enough to crest the top, otherwise it'd be way uncomfortable. You can apply a lot more positive Gs to the body than you can negative, so inverted top hats are fine to be taken at higher speeds that don't allow the train to stall. My assumption would be he's thinking about just an inside tophat that only goes through once then continues along some path. The same rules as all accelerators would then apply, just enough to clear the hill. Mr. Freeze has the Lim motors to push it up the spike so it has enough speed to clear the track in reverse. If the only motor was the launch, I highly doubt the ride would ever make it back around. As for the chiller though, it must have been launched fast enough to make it forward then through the tack in reverse, I don't think they had additional Lim's, I may be mistaken. I believes he's imagining TTD or Kingda Ka with an inside top hat. **Edit** I see now that this is not what he was referring to. Nonetheless, I've always wanted to see something like TTD with an inside tophat built. Right, I didn't mean to imply that his idea had to be a shuttle. I meant to say that if a full-circuit ride had an inside top hat, it could be taken at a quicker speed, similar to those on the shuttles like Mr. Freeze. For example, if TTD were to have one, it would likely launch an extra 5 miles per hour to be sure that the train clears the hill every time. Basically, you're saying that the same rules as the other accelerators would apply, but I think it's the 'rules' from the existing inside top hats that actually would - launch it fast enough to guarantee it works, not fast enough to just inch over! (I'm still surprised that Full Throttle is launched as slow as it is.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hriscay Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 ^I agree, that would be they way it would be done. But it would be cool if you slowly went through the tophat, just hanging upside down for that split second, where Mr. Freeze is pretty good about keeping you in your seat through the top hat. Some type of motor would have to make sure it never stalls though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I meant something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hriscay Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I meant something like this. Would it creep through the Inverted Tophat or speed through like Mr. Freeze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Would it creep through the Inverted Tophat or speed through like Mr. Freeze? Probably not as fast as Mr. Freeze, but certainly faster than the regular top hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy* Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Mr freeze give some pretty decent hang time especially when you return back to the station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hriscay Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Mr freeze give some pretty decent hang time especially when you return back to the station This is ture, but the initial tophat inversion is pretty forceful after the launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject_12 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Okay, I'm gonna try to explain this. A roller coaster has a section of it's dive drop on a pivot. It pivots to go onto half of an Immelmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
australianalex Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I came up with a bizarre idea for a coaster element. Imagine a hairpin turn, but tilted on its side so the coaster travels along a 90 degree banked section of track before doing a 180 degree turn, still with the coaster banked at 90 degrees. Basically, imagine a zacspin with a regular coaster car running along the side of it. Would the forces experienced through this turn even be safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiaMuse Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Would something like this on a coaster be fun or just plain uncomfortable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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