Wes Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 Where did you get that this coaster will have wide trains?~Matthew Maybe from the last two pages of posts in this thread where the wideness of the track was being discussed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrideseeker Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Maybe from the last two pages of posts in this thread where the wideness of the track was being discussed? Ok... after comparing SheiKra track with this track I can see how people would say it is wide. At first it just look like normal sized track. ~Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandluke Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 That isn't dive machine track. The cross ties on dive machine track goes straight across. These don't. They are more like the traditional B&M track. I would bet it's probably for Kings Island. [PRETTY PICTURE OF GRIFFON] I don't know that much, but what are you guys talking about? I am so confused The cross-ties on the track are the little fin-type things that come up from the box track and attach to the rails. On Griffon and other dive machines, the fins are straight across along the top of them (as that pic shows). On this new track, the cross-ties indent a little along the top, giving a "V"ish shape. This is reminiscent of typical B&M track. However, the box frame of the new track is wider across than typical track, thus looking like dive machine track in that regard. So basically, this new track has the box track of a dive machine and the cross-ties of a dive machine. Hope that helped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam06pr Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 That isn't dive machine track. The cross ties on dive machine track goes straight across. These don't. They are more like the traditional B&M track. I would bet it's probably for Kings Island. [PRETTY PICTURE OF GRIFFON] I don't know that much, but what are you guys talking about? I am so confused The cross-ties on the track are the little fin-type things that come up from the box track and attach to the rails. On Griffon and other dive machines, the fins are straight across along the top of them (as that pic shows). On this new track, the cross-ties indent a little along the top, giving a "V"ish shape. This is reminiscent of typical B&M track. However, the box frame of the new track is wider across than typical track, thus looking like dive machine track in that regard. So basically, this new track has the box track of a dive machine and the cross-ties of a dive machine. Hope that helped! OH YEAH!!! I see. lol. now i just feel stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 After some intense searching, I found the name of the company that makes B&M track. It's Clermont Steel Fabricators, LLC. You can even see their name's abbreviation, CSF, in one of the pictures. Their steel fabrication plant (the one in the pictures) is in Batavia, Ohio. BTW, I think it's Dive Machine track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signal Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I think it's going to SFGA. There are still so many other parks that it COuLd be going to, but sfga is the best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingbooba Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Clint Novak, I think, said Hypersonic XLC from King's Dominion could be the coaster King's Island is getting next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpengeist04 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 ^LOL, that would be so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteocrepaldi Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I don't know if this is important but that's the same place where they made the track for Crystal Wings. PHOTO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingbooba Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 ^LOL, that would be so funny. I'd be pleased. In fact, I'm pleased it doesn't operate at KD anymore. IT SUCKS!!! IT HURTS!!! IT'S NOT WORTH WAITING IN THE LINE IT ALWAYS HAS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpengeist04 Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I've always liked Hypersonic, even if it was a little rough after the hill. The part that would be funny is Kings Island not getting a B&M once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffy Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 The part that would be funny is Kings Island not getting a B&M once again. I think Kings Island just might be getting a B&M coaster. Not sure if its the red track or not it could very well be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Here's the latest Screamscape take on the mystery track. There has been lots of talk about those new red mystery B&M track pieces lately and it seems that the more closely people look at them, the more strange and unique they appear. First off, a quick look at the cross-ties shows that these are not typical B&M track and appear to be something entirely new. Personally, I’m still not convinced that the size of these track pieces is Standard or Dive Machine since they definitely look narrower than Griffon. More and more I’m thinking that we’ve got an entirely new animal on our hands… one that will offer up some incredible new surprises very soon. They make valid points, I guess we just have to wait and see. Hopefully some sort of label will pop up on a piece saying what park it belongs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hey, check this out: www.rcdb.com/id4161.htm Could it really be that Kingda Ka is going to lose the title of the fastest coaster in the world? EDIT: V - Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 ^ Yes, that news is about 5 months old and has it's own thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 It has been confirmed that the track is indeed Dive Machine track. Here is the label. Credit, once again, goes to Sheikra_rocks. Notice the "DM" after "Part No." "DM" = Dive Machine. That same "DM" was on Chimelong Paradise's Dive Machine track label. Too bad, though, the customer is all numbers, unlike Chimelong Paradise's label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchpunk Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I am thinking Six Flags Great America might get this one! With Deja Vu gone, as well as the flume ride, and all of the rumors about a new dive machine at SF Great America, it seems like it's a good fit. I'm hoping for a water feature since there is already a dive pool available! Of course, this is just hopeful speculation, although I am considering a boycott of SFGAm this year as $25 is too much to pay for any kind of parking. I'm headed to Kings Island this weekend, getting two days for the same price as one day at SFGAm, and since I'm taking the youth group, parking the church van is free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 ^^ So it is Dive Machine track! Whew, that's a relief! For a second there I was actually beginning to think that this was for Seaworld Orlando! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 There are rumors floating around over at CoasterBuzz that the Big Dipper is going to be relocated to Cedar Point. Here is what the original poster, PREMiERdrum, said: I just got a press release / fax from Richard Munch, Historian, of ACE (I am an Assignment Editor with the CBS affiliate in Columbus). He says that an announcement coming today will announce that the Big Dipper will be relocated to Cedar Point. There was originally a press event scheduled for today, but now it will come as a simple press release. People later in the thread said the press release says it will be announced tomorrow, not today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaparri Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 As much as I'd love to see the Big Dipper get saved, I find it hard to believe that CP would turn out to be the rescue crew. 1) When has Cedar Fair/Cedar Point ever cared about tradition and history? They are the same people that couldn't even be bothered to come up with a respectable business plan to keep Geauga profitable in the first place! After four years of neglect through their embarrassing game plan, they just gave up and closed the place. 2) Where are they going to put it? The park is out of land as it is. Big Dipper isn't a monster of a coaster, but there still isn't a really good place to put it, not without removing rides. And that brings up the argument of why would the park remove rides for an 80 year old wooden coaster, when they could use that plan to build the next gimmicky, record-breaking coaster? In which, the debate goes back to argument 1. Maybe I'll eat my words tomorrow... who knows. If I do, I'm sure my ingested words will do me well, because I'll need some nourishment after I crap a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padresguy619 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I say LLC finally takes out Treasure Falls and builds a decent sized pirate- themed rollercoaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 My theory is that they know it's a very popular coaster, and would attract a lot of enthusiasts, and that means money. That or they know they can't destroy it because of the history behind it, so they have to move it somewhere, and maybe Cedar Point is the best place to move it, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I would be happy if they saved Big Dipper and moved it to CP but I would be surprised if they did, now heading to CP website to see if T and T have been dropping any hints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimace Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 My theory is that they know it's a very popular coaster, and would attract a lot of enthusiasts, and that means money. Enthusiast make up less than 1% of the people who pay to go to amusement parks, that makes no sense from a business point of view. Plus, any new coaster would attract a lot of enthusiasts AND the other 99% of the coaster riding market, so I don't really get why (CP of all places) would rescue an old wood coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 My theory is that they know it's a very popular coaster, and would attract a lot of enthusiasts, and that means money. Enthusiast make up less than 1% of the people who pay to go to amusement parks, that makes no sense from a business point of view. Plus, any new coaster would attract a lot of enthusiasts AND the other 99% of the coaster riding market, so I don't really get why (CP of all places) would rescue an old wood coaster. Enthusiasts meaning Big Dipper and Geauga Lake enthusiasts. Everyone who used to go to Geauga Lake and enjoyed it will come to Cedar Point to do so. They'll then pass it on to relatives, friends, etc. saying that the fun coaster they used to ride at Geauga Lake has been moved to Cedar Point. It might be a way of winning over everyone that used to only go to Geauga Lake all the time, but not Cedar Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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