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The way I see it - the Frozen ride is bringing gobs of people into the Norway pavilion (which has been expanded.) It is not like they removed any hint of the actual country of Norway when updating Malestrom. It seems to me that more people are actually visiting the pavilion itself and will probably learn more about the country because they will be spending more time there.

 

I think it's a great idea to add IP based attractions to the Country's pavilions from where they came. Snow White in Germany, Beauty and the Beast in France, Mulan, Pooh/Tigger, etc. If it gets more people into the Pavilions of the country it gives the pavilions a chance to do their job in educating/entertaining.

 

Does anyone remember when they were a kid and the Epcot day at Disney was like punishment?? There really wasn't anything exciting for a pre-teen and although the parents loved it - I was bored out of my skull and trying to connive my way back to MK.

 

Just my thoughts

 

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Just because you don’t think it is good, it doesn’t mean the rest of the visiting majority agrees with your opinion. But I guess that’s the beauty of numbers... Everyone is entitled to their own opini

EPCOT is about one thing: making money for Disney. Does Guardians make money? *Glances at box office returns* Why, yes. Yes it does. Case closed.

I think “terrible” is a matter of perspective. Also understand that the person you’re debating this with has a long-proven admiration of Epcot in its classic form... Just look up Epcot’s 25th annivers

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The way I see it - the Frozen ride is bringing gobs of people into the Norway pavilion

 

Not just the Norway pavilion, but also to the country of Norway.

 

Disney’s ‘Frozen’ fires up Norway’s tourism

 

Disney's Frozen gives boost to Norwegian tourism

 

Frozen Has Massively Increased Tourism to Norway

 

US tourism to Norway still up on 'Frozen effect'

 

Two years after the Disney hit Frozen put Norway firmly on the tourism map, the number of Americans flocking to experience the picturesque homeland of the Snow Queen Elsa and her kooky sister Anna continues to climb.

 

So yes, IMO it fits perfectly into the Norway pavilion. The movie has made people more curious about Norway, and for those who didn't know the strong connection between Norway and Frozen, they sure will now after visiting EPCOT.

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^That's pretty interesting, I never would have imagined that a movie based in a fictional land would increase tourism in the country it is based on, then again it worked for New Zealand/ Lord of the Rings so I guess it shouldn't be a surprise.

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I'm just saying that the entire purpose of EPCOT was to be and educational park that at the same time was fun. If Disney keeps adding franchise themed rides its kind of ruining that purpose. Just stating my opinion.

 

The entire purpose of EPCOT was for Walt Disney World to build a theme park utilizing other people's money using the World's Fair model. Future World consists/ed of corporate pap thanks to huge industry sponsors, some of which is actually false and/or harmful. World Showcase is culture porn paid for by taxpayers of other countries. That model is basically dead because companies aren't seeing returns to justify participation in Future World, and countries haven't seen bumps based on participation in World Showcase (Norway stopped funding the pavilion eons ago). It is time to change it drastically. The sooner it happens, the better off we all are.

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If you go over to the WDW Magic forums, you'll find a lot of people have the same point of view as I do.

Just because a bunch of other idiots have the same opinion you do doesn't make your opinion any less stupid. IMO, all those horrible people can just STAY there.

 

Die-hard WDW Fanboys are some of the worst people I have ever encountered in my life.

 

The parks and resorts at the moment look the BEST they have in years...decades even. The parks are seeing new attractions, improvements, and park updates pop up all over the place, and the whole resort is more popular than ever. But these groups of die-hard fans want their "museum" parks back to exactly how they were in the 1970s and 1980s. Guess what? All they have proved over the years are things like all that "educational focus" didn't work, wasn't profitable, and people weren't interested.

 

As a Walt Disney World park fan myself (I'm at the parks probably 3-5 nights a week) I am ecstatic that they are turning the parks around, expanding the resort property, and I celebrate that fact with everyone else who is loving the parks almost every day.

 

Do I miss rides like Horizons or Alien Encounter? Sure. I guess. But I also *LOVE* all the new additions and changes they are making. If you want parks to be a museum, you're doing it wrong, and you should probably frequent places like the Smithsonian or the Lovre instead.

 

But please, do us all a favor. Take your antiquated opinions back over to WDW Magic and stay there with all the other batshit crazy WDW fanboys that we make fun of here.

 

Thanks.

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"But, but, some other forum's residents believe something!"

 

A) So, what? There's no groupthink there?

 

B) WDWMagic, DisBoards, all the Disney Forums - these are people who only like Disney. They aren't authorities on anything except maybe the light fixtures or what artbooks some designer cribbed from. Most of them are utterly clueless on the industry outside Mickey and Universal (the eeeeeeevil enemy). Robb knows more than most "experts" there. I do too. Why should I care what they think?

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WDWMagic, DisBoards, all the Disney Forums - these are people who only like Disney. They aren't authorities on anything except maybe the light fixtures or what artbooks some designer cribbed from. Most of them are utterly clueless on the industry outside Mickey and Universal (the eeeeeeevil enemy). Robb knows more than most "experts" there. I do too. Why should I care what they think?

And not only do the only like Disney, but they are totally neurotic about Disney. For many of them, it's impossible to see all the great things happening in the park and they complain about the most petty ridiculous things. I've actually seen stuff like "I can't believe some of the paint is peeling in Carousel of Progress" and "I got in the Peoplemover car and it was a MESS WITH CRUMBS!!!!" Seriously, this the kind of absolutely CRAZY stuff these people complain about. They can no longer go to the parks and have fun, they HAVE to look for things to bitch and complain about from the smallest most mundane item to "How DARE they remove Maelstrom!!!!"

 

They all feel like the parks should be catering to THEIR personal preferences and don't give a crap and refuse to understand how or why the parks operate the way they do and have zero appreciation for the hard work and insane amount of effort being put into everything that happens in the parks.

 

I hate it. Can't stand these people. Don't want to hang out with them at the parks and I don't want them anywhere on our forum.

 

I mean, the parks just spent MILLIONS OF DOLLARS doing things like building a 3rd Soarin theater, building a 3rd track on Toy Story Mania, adding new animatronics to the Mexico Boat Ride. Things that are totally transparent to the average guest and won't make them back a single penny. They do these things to increase the guest experience.

 

Do you see many other parks making these sort of expensive investments just so that "guests can have a better day?"

 

So take your complaining about crumbs on the Peoplemover or toilets not working or whatever stupid crap all those other sites want to bitch about, and stay there. The rest of us will go and have a good time at Walt Disney World!

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Does anyone remember when they were a kid and the Epcot day at Disney was like punishment?? There really wasn't anything exciting for a pre-teen and although the parents loved it - I was bored out of my skull and trying to connive my way back to MK.

EPCOT was the worst when you were a kid - the entire World Showcase walk was always so boring! Much less so as an adult, when you can ride the Three Caballeros ride after a few drinks.

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Does anyone remember when they were a kid and the Epcot day at Disney was like punishment?? There really wasn't anything exciting for a pre-teen and although the parents loved it - I was bored out of my skull and trying to connive my way back to MK.

And now Epcot is the park that Kristen (who is 9 years old) asks us to take her to the most! So anyone who is going to try to convince me that what Epcot has been doing the past ten or so years is a step in the wrong direction, I will gladly laugh loudly in their face.

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There is kidna of this misconception of EPCOT being more of an adult park, I've heard that from a lot of friends who go to WDW and plan to skip EPCOT in favor of a second day at Magic Kingdom or something, but I love taking my younger kids there. I mean obviously it's not the Magic Kingdom but with Nemo, Journey into Imagination, The Three Caballeros, Spaceship Earth, tons of Princess and Character meet n greets (with short lines!) and now Frozen there is way more for little kids to do at Epcot than HS or AK. Even Soarin and test Track have 40" height requirements and are much less "intimidating" for younger kids than Dinosaur and Tower of Terror. EPCOT is just the best.

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Does anyone remember when they were a kid and the Epcot day at Disney was like punishment?? There really wasn't anything exciting for a pre-teen and although the parents loved it - I was bored out of my skull and trying to connive my way back to MK.

And now Epcot is the park that Kristen (who is 9 years old) asks us to take her to the most! So anyone who is going to try to convince me that what Epcot has been doing the past ten or so years is a step in the wrong direction, I will gladly laugh loudly in their face.

 

I completely agree!!

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I've never actually been to most of World Showcase the few times I've been to WDW. We basically stayed in Future World the whole time...

 

Then you're doing it all wrong.........

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I've never actually been to most of World Showcase the few times I've been to WDW. We basically stayed in Future World the whole time...

 

Then you're doing it all wrong.........

To be fair the last time I made a full day visit to Epcot was back in 2003 when I was like eight. Last time I went to Epcot (and WDW as a whole) at all was during Extra Magic Hours in 2009 so I could check off Soarin', Spaceship Earth and Test Track.

 

I'd definitely check WS out should I ever make it back to the States though.

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I've never actually been to most of World Showcase the few times I've been to WDW. We basically stayed in Future World the whole time...

 

Then you're doing it all wrong.........

To be fair the last time I made a full day visit to Epcot was back in 2003 when I was like eight. Last time I went to Epcot (and WDW as a whole) at all was during Extra Magic Hours in 2009 so I could check off Soarin', Spaceship Earth and Test Track.

 

I was mostly just joking, but I do know a lot of people who treat Epcot as a half day park to just ride Soarin, Test Track, and some stuff in Future World then move onto another park and completely skip the Showcase because it doesn't have any "rides".

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^ but the food back there. .

 

we purposefully get Park Hopper passes, so we can have dinner every night at EPCOT when we do DisneyWorld complex.

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Speaking of Epcot... Tutto Gusto at the Italy pavilion has sent me some new information and pics for their frozen drinks they are offering this summer. I cannot recommend the restaurants in Italy enough, so this is a nice welcome (and cool) addition! Be sure to check it out when you're at the park!

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