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WoF almost always sells out on Haunt Saturdays. They should keep track of the people who leave with them or sell a certain amount each hour so the Fast Lane lines aren't barren while I wait 3 hours for their Morgan Hyper.

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^I've thought about that and talked it over with Emily. That might be the next evolution of nerd'ism for me. Seems pretty cool. Cedar Point of one of the Busch's would probably be the place to do it. I could probably sell a VIP tour of Busch Gardens Willaimsburg to Emily. It's her favorite park.

 

If you do a VIP tour at CP I can give it to you! Whether it's the sunrise or all day one! Perks of working in guest services

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WoF almost always sells out on Haunt Saturdays. They should keep track of the people who leave with them or sell a certain amount each hour so the Fast Lane lines aren't barren while I wait 3 hours for their Morgan Hyper.

Almost? They sold out 3 HAUNT Saturdays last year.

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They limit how many Fast Passes they sell for yearly passes per park and also daily passes to avoid this

 

These "limits" are for the most part a marketing ploy and serve as a call to action. If there is indeed a limit, it's so absurdly high that hitting it is never (or almost never) a real concern.

 

I know for sure on 1 Haunt weekend CP sold out of Fast Lane. And there was possibly a second time in 2016. In 2015 two Haunt Saturday's sold out.

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4th of July is the only time they really ever sell out isn't it?

 

 

It's been a few years since the 4Th of July has been obnoxiously busy. Busier? Yeah. But it doesn't compare to Saturday's in July/August and Halloweekends. It sells out every now and then during the summer season, especially after the $30 ticket special CP runs in the middle of summer.

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I took the Sunrise Thrills tour last year and it was outstanding! I did ask our guide about FL pass caps and he said "When the FL lines hit 45-60 mins we stop selling passes." Considering we were there a couple years ago on July 4 and several FL lines were in that time frame and people were being told they were sold out, it sounds reasonable to me. Now, however many wristbands would be sold to create that I have no idea.

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It'll be interesting to see how this develops. The more people use these passes, the longer wait times get. The longer wait times get, the lower the passes' perceived value becomes. It's a dynamic system that will ebb and flow with use. Seems like we are starting a downward trend in the perceived value since more and more people are acquiring the Skip the Line passes each year.

 

Disagree. The more fast passes and the longer the wait times get, the lower the value of just a ticket or pass to get in. Eventually the fastpass arms race becomes so disgusting that many just stay home. But then, the majority view already is that amusement parks are overcrowded cesspits of overpopulation, luckily for us.

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I think you proved his point... -- it sold out the one night I went to Kings Island a few years back! Take that, Bill!

 

To be fair though, I'm honestly surprised there's a limit at all. I always figured that was 100% bullsh*t. Now I know it's only 99.9% bullsh*t.

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^^About the overpopulation thing...every time I see long lines at amusement parks,bad traffic,busy waiting rooms,etc I start noticing the over population issue just more and more. There is one good thing however,about over crowded amusement parks! We know the park is getting good business and there or more money. We dont have to worry about it loosing money and closing down any time soon. So the over crowdedness has a good side and a bad side.

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I will be renewing my Valleyfair platinum season pass on Friday. I will also be doing the 2017 season pass fast lane this season. It's Valleyfair's 2nd season doing this. I was wondering when you buy the platinum season pass along with the 2017 season pass fast lane is that good at all Cedar Fair park's with your platinum season pass or just Valleyfair only? Would you be able to do the 2017 season pass fast lane at Cedar Point? Just wondering because I will be making a trip out to Cedar Point in June.

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I took the Sunrise Thrills tour last year and it was outstanding! I did ask our guide about FL pass caps and he said "When the FL lines hit 45-60 mins we stop selling passes." Considering we were there a couple years ago on July 4 and several FL lines were in that time frame and people were being told they were sold out, it sounds reasonable to me. Now, however many wristbands would be sold to create that I have no idea.

This proves the point about "perceived value"... They don't want to sell a $135 pass and then have someone come back and complain. Yea, the 1-hour wait is better than the 3-hour wait, but that is a tough sell at that point. Also, we're talking about 3-5 days out of what, 125 operating days?

 

More and more, it seems that you'd probably enjoy your day better if you had a Skip the Line pass. And by making it relatively cheap, you're gonna have more people using it. Kinda sounds like what Six Flags pushes with their cheap season passes doesn't it? Obviously it's scaled down in raw numbers, but you may see a particularly high percentage of pass holders jump on this and as a result you see a jump in wait times.

 

I don't think they'll go from station waits to 60+ minutes right out of the gate, but a ride might go from a walk-on to 10 minutes the first season. Then 20 min the next season. Then 30 min. It's a slippery slope that Cedar Fair has to balance on.

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I was wondering when you buy the platinum season pass along with the 2017 season pass fast lane is that good at all Cedar Fair park's with your platinum season pass or just Valleyfair only? Would you be able to do the 2017 season pass fast lane at Cedar Point? Just wondering because I will be making a trip out to Cedar Point in June.

 

No, it is only valid at the park you purchase it at. It even says that on the page to purchase the season pass fastlane.

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Memorial Day 2015 we got our FPs right away and talked to a couple people later in the day (and on Sunday) that had said they tried to get FPs and they had sold out of them on Saturday. We bought them right away Sunday too because of this. Now I never saw any FP lines that were 45-60 minutes, but the park was rammed that Saturday and basically Sunday too, tho noticably not as bad.

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So I'm heading to CP for the first time ever May 14 (Sunday) or 15 (Monday). I'm in South Carolina so not too far away and have always wanted to go, just never made it. So, couple of questions...

 

-This seems like a no brainer but should I go on the Sunday or Monday? Monday seems best obviously but the only downside is I'd be flying out of Cleveland the next day rather than having a day buffer in between CP and flying out.

-Is FL or FL+ worth it that time of year on those days? If I were to go on Monday, for example, I can't imagine lines being very long.

-Any tips on affordable places to stay nearby? It's just going to be me and maybe my buddy. Only time spent at the hotel is for sleeping.

-Any other general tips for a first timer?

 

I'm pretty psyched, can't wait!

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I'd just leave it open until a few days out, then pick the day with better weather (so lower winds and a lower chance of rain... both of which can cause a ton of closures at Cedar Point).

 

All things being equal though I'd go Sunday. It's the first week of daily operations so it means lines will be virtually nonexistent on Monday, but at the same time they'll be short staffed which means second tier rides generally have staggered openings and they have to work miracles to shuffle around staff. It won't be noticeable on the major rides but you'll notice it elsewhere (for example, you can race on Gemini on Sunday but I'd bet anything that only one side runs on Monday).

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I took the Sunrise Thrills tour last year and it was outstanding! I did ask our guide about FL pass caps and he said "When the FL lines hit 45-60 mins we stop selling passes."

I can't imagine how pissed off I would be to pay over two hundred dollars for fast lane plus passes and wait in forty-five minute lines.

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I'd just leave it open until a few days out, then pick the day with better weather (so lower winds and a lower chance of rain... both of which can cause a ton of closures at Cedar Point).

 

All things being equal though I'd go Sunday. It's the first week of daily operations so it means lines will be virtually nonexistent on Monday, but at the same time they'll be short staffed which means second tier rides generally have staggered openings and they have to work miracles to shuffle around staff. It won't be noticeable on the major rides but you'll notice it elsewhere (for example, you can race on Gemini on Sunday but I'd bet anything that only one side runs on Monday).

Good call. They do have the pre-season $40 single day ticket (which seems insanely cheap to me but I'm cool with it!) so I can get that now and choose the day later.

 

If I end up on a Sunday, do you think the FL is worth it that early in the season? $75 seems pretty steep (and doesn't even include the big rides).

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Since you only have one day it might be a good idea, but if you're going to do it don't buy Fastlane, buy Fastlane Plus. It includes Valravn, Maverick, Dragster and Gatekeeper and isn't that much more expensive (since either way you're dropping a huge chunk of cash). Don't buy it until you get to the park. If you're okay with missing some credits (like Mine Ride or Corkscrew or something) then you can get by without Fastlane and hit all of the major rides.

 

Honestly though, it may not be 100% necessary. Just start at the back of the park and work your way forward. Don't ride Gatekeeper, Valravn or Raptor early in the day. The lines die way down later on.

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So I'm heading to CP for the first time ever May 14 (Sunday) or 15 (Monday). I'm in South Carolina so not too far away and have always wanted to go, just never made it. So, couple of questions...

 

So I cant comment on how crowds will be because they seem unpredictable in may. But if this is your first trip to Cedar Point ever and you want to get a ton of rides in, FL+ is the way to go. As for hotels, I always stay at Breakers Express because it allows you to get in the park an hour early, which is worth it in my book. These things add up... but it's Cedar Point and I find myself shouting TREAT YO'SELF when I go.

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I say go Sunday, and as others have said, skip FL+ until you get to the park. Not only that, but with the money you saved by skipping FL+, you may feel inclined to do a full or half day visit on Monday. The first time my wife and I went to the park we only planned on a two day visit, but we had such a good time we stayed an extra day.

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No brainer here, but don't just buy the FL+ passes instantly. Walk around and get a feel for the crowds and lines before making that decision. Also keep in mind that on some rides (MF), Fast Lane only gets you part way through. You still have to wait about 20 mins from where the FL end is. (Which is almost always with MF)

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Since you only have one day it might be a good idea, but if you're going to do it don't buy Fastlane, buy Fastlane Plus. It includes Valravn, Maverick, Dragster and Gatekeeper and isn't that much more expensive (since either way you're dropping a huge chunk of cash). Don't buy it until you get to the park. If you're okay with missing some credits (like Mine Ride or Corkscrew or something) then you can get by without Fastlane and hit all of the major rides.

 

Honestly though, it may not be 100% necessary. Just start at the back of the park and work your way forward. Don't ride Gatekeeper, Valravn or Raptor early in the day. The lines die way down later on.

Something I didn't consider until now that is actually way cheaper than 1-day with FL+ is getting the two day any day ticket ($69.99 pre-season) and spreading it out over both that Sunday and Monday. $70 is still dirt cheap for 2 days and would give me more time to enjoy things, account for weather issues, hit things up that may have longer lines, etc. Think that is actually what I may end up doing.

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So I'm heading to CP for the first time ever May 14 (Sunday) or 15 (Monday). I'm in South Carolina so not too far away and have always wanted to go, just never made it. So, couple of questions...

 

So I cant comment on how crowds will be because they seem unpredictable in may. But if this is your first trip to Cedar Point ever and you want to get a ton of rides in, FL+ is the way to go. As for hotels, I always stay at Breakers Express because it allows you to get in the park an hour early, which is worth it in my book. These things add up... but it's Cedar Point and I find myself shouting TREAT YO'SELF when I go.

 

I would agree with staying at Breakers Express for early entry. It's a little more than some other hotels in the immediate area, but assuming Maverick is running during early entry (this can sometimes be a wildcard if it actually opens early, especially in May), you can go in the marina gate, book it to MF and ride once or twice (if the line is still short enough they'll let you skip walking all the way out and around and go right back to the ramp into the station), take a few laps on Maverick, and get to Dragster near opening for a couple rides. By 11:00 you already have multiple rides on each of three Intamins, including the two that can get longer lines. This pattern has worked out extremely well for me the last couple of years. I did go on a number of weekdays in early June and late August, but I would assume that doing the same or something similar would work out well for you. At that point, there's a good chance you won't feel like you need FL+ unless you care about every single credit plus a bunch of flat rides. Speaking of flat rides, Maxair and Sky Hawk are fantastic and definitely worth a ride. I've never been interested in any of the other flats at CP.

 

Like coasterbill said, save Raptor, GateKeeper, and Valravn until later in the day. Hour waits in the morning turn to 15 minute waits in the afternoon for those rides. I assume this will be true for Valravn again this year, but maybe not since it's no longer brand new. As with most parks, do the back half of the park first and work your way to the front. Also, I believe Iron Dragon is only doing VR after 6:00 so if you want to ride it and don't care about VR, hit this one up before then. And obviously later if you care about VR.

 

Above all, just enjoy the rides and have a great time. Which isn't all that hard to do at CP if you ask me.

 

 

One other thing, I love Chickie's & Pete's crabfries. And living in Utah, I don't have them anywhere close to me so I make sure to get them when I visit. Unfortunately Melt won't be open by the time you go so you won't be able to try that. It looks delicious.

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