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I have an idea for how they'll work all of this.

2017: A water park expansion, this will announce the closure of Geauga Lake's Wildwater Kingdom. The funnel, And large slide complex will be moved to Soak City.

2018: Opening of a new RMC roller coaster. This will take all of the 2017 season to build because RMC can't work in bad weather, such as all of Ohio's. (So I've heard.)

2019: A triotech dark ride in place of Shoot The Rapids and possibly Dinosaurs Alive. The Dinosaurs Alive contract is supposedly expiring very soon.

2020: Something large for their anniversary.

(My predictions)

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I'm pretty confident 2019 won't bring anything major. Sounds like 2020 is going to be a big one for the parks anniversary.

 

 

 

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... God damn

 

Thanks for digging that up.

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I'm pretty confident 2019 won't bring anything major. Sounds like 2020 is going to be a big one for the parks anniversary.

 

 

 

Repeat after me...

 

Theme

Parks

Do

Not

Give

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Single

Sh*t

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Wood

To

Steel

Coaster

Ratios,

Anniversaries

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Bull***

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Coasters

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That

 

... God damn

 

Except that Jason and Tony have already brought that year up.

 

No, I'm not making it up. People on this site are so defensive. Jason answered a question sometime before the Valravn announcement, saying they will celebrate 150 the right way. Tony Clark brought it up in a YouTube video a while back, can't recall the full details.

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In before people tell Mossed that "Amusement Parks don't care about Anniversaries!"

 

 

Well done.

 

I tend to agree, for most parks. Still, it's an easy marketing opportunity for the park and it's been brought up multiple times already. I'd be shocked if they didn't add something huge.

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Yes, parks do care about anniversaries. This is Cedar Point we're talking about. You have to be blind to think they won't do anything massive for their ONE HUNDRED FIFTIETH!!!!

I don't usually participate in controversial discussions, but this time I will agree. Thank you for emphasizing this. I let the number "150" go over my head until I saw this post and actually stopped to think about it.

 

Holy crap, Batman, 150 years is a lot! YES I think that is something to celebrate. If KD can market their 40th, why can't CP market their 150th!? I'm not implying they will see a new coaster. We have no trends for parks celebrating 150 years to speculate changes on. I believe Cedar point will be the first major / cooperate parkto reach 150 anyway, correct?

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Jason answered a question sometime before the Valravn announcement, saying they will celebrate 150 the right way. Tony Clark brought it up in a YouTube video a while back, can't recall the full details.

 

Yeah this means nothing. So someone asked a question about the 150th anniversary (so they were prompted, they didn't just bring this up themselves) and they said they would celebrate it the right way. Kings Dominion would have said the same thing. What do you think they're going to say? "Oh the 150th anniversary year, Yeah we're not doing sh*t. We're totally gonna blow that one".

 

They're PR guys. Maybe they're getting something big, maybe they're not but they're going to pretend everything they do is big, exciting and amazing because that's their job.

 

Yes, parks do care about anniversaries.

 

Sure. They'll put some banners up and sell you some stuff that says "150th Anniversary" but there's no evidence at all to suggest that anniversary years and new ride additions have any correlation whatsoever. That's just some crap enthusiasts made up and think that if they keep saying it over and over again it'll eventually become true.

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Jason answered a question sometime before the Valravn announcement, saying they will celebrate 150 the right way. Tony Clark brought it up in a YouTube video a while back, can't recall the full details.

 

Yeah this means nothing. So someone asked a question about the 150th anniversary (so they were prompted, they didn't just bring this up themselves) and they said they would celebrate it the right way. Kings Dominion would have said the same thing. What do you think they're going to say? "Oh the 150th anniversary year, Yeah we're not doing sh*t. We're totally gonna blow that one".

 

Youre right, but I recall Tony bringing it up organically. I was putting more emphasis on what he said than what Jason said. Them mentioning 2020 five years in advance prove that they care at least a little. Everyone saying otherwise is wrong... Nothin controversial about that statement.

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Everyone saying otherwise is wrong

 

I never said they didn't care. I have no doubt that they'll have a ton of 150th anniversary merchandise for sale and probably some cool promotions and events but none of this guarantees a new coaster or major ride.

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Everyone saying otherwise is wrong

 

I never said they didn't care. I have no doubt that they'll have a ton of 150th anniversary merchandise for sale and probably some cool promotions and events but none of this guarantees a new coaster or major ride.

 

Absolutely this.

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This will take all of the 2017 season to build because RMC can't work in bad weather, such as all of Ohio's. (So I've heard.)

 

Wildfire was built in some pretty bad weather. I can't remember exactly but I think Goliath was built during a pretty bad winter.

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Valravn's lift chain broke this afternoon. They were working hard on it with 5 guys doing the job. As the rain started at 8pm, I saw them testing the ride as I left. I hope it's open tomorrow morning for my early entry ride.

 

The Kentucky Kingdom curse has extended onto Cedar Point. Brace yourselves!

 

 

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When I went we had no problems but it seems like Valravn is having a lot of problems. When it first opened I remembered getting like 2 or 3 trains on the top on the block brakes, and people being up there. Now the lift chain is broken?

 

The lift chain wasn't broken the ride was down for a couple hours and was running for the last few hours of the night. How does that and having it stop for awhile on top of the left a few months ago constitute "having a lot of problems".

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When I went we had no problems but it seems like Valravn is having a lot of problems. When it first opened I remembered getting like 2 or 3 trains on the top on the block brakes, and people being up there. Now the lift chain is broken?

 

The lift chain wasn't broken the ride was down for a couple hours and was running for the last few hours of the night. How does that and having it stop for awhile on top of the left a few months ago constitute "having a lot of problems".

 

Well this is also anecdotal evidence but while browsing this thread I see sometimes that the ride is having troubles from time to ti.

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I see sometimes that the ride is having troubles from time to ti.

 

This is true. And it's also true of just about every coaster in existence. But the ride has been running fine this year. I think it's operated every single operating day so far this season.

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I'm pretty regular to CP (I've been about 20 times this year) and Valravn has operated every single time I've been there for at least 2/3 of the day. Yes it has also broken down for a little while each time but nothing that has kept it down for any lengthy period of time.

 

Valravn having problems? Lightning Rod says hi.

 

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So, my partner and I were just having a discussion recently. We just had our first visit to King's Dominion(which was a fun trip), but we live close to CP and visit often. We have platinum passes and enjoy hitting the park for early entry. Between CP early entry and the early entry over at KD, I have not ever once attended an early entry day where everything operated. I get the point of Early Entry. It's an awesome perk for hotel guests and pass holders, but it's hard to see the value in it as an up sell when all the advertised attractions either aren't opening for early entry or the are down. Now, I am sure that most of the time everything is just fine; but it's a pretty interesting coincidence that for the amount of times we make the early entry, and the one time we visit KD, the rides aren't available.

I definitely think that on days where, say, a ride that is supposed to open for early entry but is having issues from the start of testing, make another attraction available. Easier said than done, better on paper I'm sure, but not a bad idea IMO.

Just thought I would put my two cents in on ride breakdowns. That is the only time it has every bothered me. Other than that, it's pretty typical to see rides break down periodically.

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Everyone saying otherwise is wrong

 

I never said they didn't care. I have no doubt that they'll have a ton of 150th anniversary merchandise for sale and probably some cool promotions and events but none of this guarantees a new coaster or major ride.

 

Well, technically, you said parks "don't give a single S***" about them, which could be construed as saying "they dont care", just sayin'...

 

Here is where I come down on this issue...

 

To say parks don't care about Anniversaries, is false. Parks do care, and yes, they market them all the time. However, that does not mean they celebrate them with a major new attraction, which some people seem to expect. So, I would agree with what coasterbill said up there, but not so much with what he said about them not giving a bleep previously!

 

So, it got buried underneath yet another re-hashing of the Anniversary debate, but I posted a pretty long and well thought out look at what the next couple of years may bring in regard to Soak City, RMC Streak, and beyond. I had hoped there might be some discussion on various points I brought up, and people answering my question about their thoughts on where Ripcord may be moved, if indeed it is moved. Or, we can just go over and over the same silly debates and sarcastic rejoinders that we typically do here, and not engage in interesting speculation about the exciting future of this park we enjoy! I know some people belittle speculation, but it's harmless (as long as it's not ridiculous), and compels people to think critically about the park, and is fun for a lot of us. Besides, by the end of the day, a lot of the things I speculated about will either be more known, or at least could be eliminated! Last chance to get in any predictions, before the pieces start to come together!

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I'm less than 10 days to the trip and already too excited to sleep. I honestly can't find any trip reports of the waterpark (not surprised), but can anyone call out any must ride slides? I'm a waterpark fun, but honestly nothing looks beyond average. Anyone care to disagree?

 

I've read the fresh french fry places have gotten a face lift, Pink's is hit or miss, and Chickie and Pete's is the most recommended place in the park. I don't plan on eating much in the park, but am I missing any reliable park food?

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