When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

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When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby robbalvey » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:00 am

So this was brought to my attention today...
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Let me just break this down for a moment because I want you all to understand that it is exactly people like this is why we stopped doing our TPR tours because we quite simply just could not stand putting up with people like this anymore....

in 2012 I decided to spend my hard earned money on one of their tours... it was the "New Hotness" tour and man was I ready. About 3 days into the trip, I thought it would be cool to add Robba the hut to my friends list and he accepted it, and well it turned out to be a real eye opening experience to say the least.

So while we thank this person for spending their money doing a trip with us, *they* also requested to join my *PERSONAL* Facebook page (something that I used to be more open about, but again, here is an example of why I no longer will allow people I don't know that well into my personal private life) which I put trust in them and accepted. It's also a lesson that I think everyone should learn here - If you don't really know someone that well, DON'T ask to be their "friend" on Facebook and don't accept friend requests from people you don't know. (I had to learn the hard way.) And again, THEY REQUESTED it. No one was forcing them to be part of my page. No one put a gun to their head. This was THEIR CHOICE! I'm sorry my posts on my personal Facebook page didn't fit their personal preferences of what they felt my Facebook page should contain, but again, this was THEIR doing. No one else made them send me the request.

within a day or so of adding him, his posts started showing up. Unfortunately the posts included rude and obnoxious statements and comments about participants on the current trip, OUR GROUP!!! from that point on and for the duration of the trip I saw his true colors in living color, and it was from that point in time, my disgust for Robba the hut began...

So if this person were to have really KNOWN me personally, yes, I vent a LOT on my Facebook page, much like other people do about things going on in their lives or "work." And in case you didn't realize TPR is my "job" and I choose to use my PERSONAL PRIVATE Facebook page to vent about things that happen on TPR to my FRIENDS who know me and know that it is my channel to release frustrations. There is nothing wrong with that. If someone on one of our trips did something annoying or stupid, I would write about it. The mistake I made here, and openly admit to, was trusting someone who was on the site for three years to understand that my "venting" doesn't always mean "I hate this person and hope they get hit by a truck."

In January of 2013 I was reading a thread on TPR about Robba's favorite subject, "line Jumping" and well I am firmly against ANY kind of line jumping, which includes leaving to go to the bathroom. and I let my feelings be known. Robba the hut did NOT like my comments, and literally ripped me apart on the site, he took a holier than thou approach to things, called me asshole...

This is probably true and I probably called him an asshole because he was being one. Big deal. Are we twelve years old here? Are you going to cry to mommy because you got into an arguement with someone? Please. Grow some balls.

the conversation then moved to email where he messaged me, called me all kinds of names, cussed me out and told me I was permanently banned from TPR and never will be welcomed again.

Weird. I just did a search for his email in my inbox and I have nothing like this...
so yeah stan where are all those emails you were talking about.jpg


I mean, it's POSSIBLE this conversation took place? Maybe? I searched his name, his email address, his TPR screen name, even Facebook Messenger and NOTHING like this came up at all that I could find. And even if that conversation DID take place, is he trying to make it out somehow that this was the first time him or anyone else has ever been "cussed out" over some pointless argument on the internet? Again, are we twelve? Do we not have balls or any sort of thick skin? Do people not even realize that when they post that reads like "This guy cussed me out in an email and called me names and I'm so sad and it really really really hurt my feelings" (keeping in mind that I'm sure he also did he fair share of cussing out, too) and you're a grown adult that just makes you look super insecure because none of any of that matters in the grand scheme of things anyway?

however it was at this precise moment in time, that I remembered that Elissa the snake was also on my friends list, problem solved..I replied to Robba the hut via Elissa's email making sure to include my feelings on her and their spoiled pain in the ass spawn in the letter, messaged then blocked both of them...

So let me get this straight. You feel like resolved the issue by going to my wife (who I'm going to place a Las Vegas bet here that if I asked her to check her emails she wouldn't have anything either) and then you solved your problem by insulting her and our child?!?!? WHAT DID I JUST READ?!?!?

I have run into them 3 times since the fallout at coaster events

I have not seen this guy since the 2012 trip.

and each time I do see them, I still to this day make comments to them when I see them

I have not seen this guy since the 2012 trip.

and each time is met with gazes of disgust and anger...

I have not seen this guy since the 2012 trip.

since 2012 when I took my trip, many friends that were in TPR that thought highly of Robb, have since left along with tons of others.

This is probably true. And I still maintain that TPR is much better and our lives have been by far more "drama free" since many of those people left. And trust me, any people who have "left" over the years that WE actually felt highly of, we have righted any wrongs and made good, you know, just like mature adults would do. Those people who we didn't, don't let the door hit your butt on the way out! You're just like this guy and we are better off without you!

TPR is falling out of the limelight

We just had one of our best months ever on social media in December and so far in January.
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it will be that group that everyone talks about, you know that one coaster club that used to be cool..

I admit, we aren't that cool.

I'm sure some people will come on here and say "Oh, this is just Alvey creating drama" blah, blah, blah, but I legit felt the need to post using this as an example of exactly WHY we don't do our tours anymore, or I should say don't do them open to the public anymore. Yes, we still have fun traveling the world with our friends and TPR members who weren't terrible humans like this guy. I still maintain I did NOTHING WRONG to this person. I mean, what? We got into an argument over line jumping apparently? And that triggered all of this? Or was it that he didn't like my personal private Facebook posts and then later held that grudge to start an argument? Who knows. All I know is that we are way better off without this person, better off without doing public trips, and we are happier and our lives are more drama free.

And you know, that all being said, if you are a person who could be exactly *NOT* like this person here, and would like to do a trip with us, you should send either Elissa or myself a message! :P
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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby bert425 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:55 am

:nina:

at some point, in the future, I'm gonna have some time, and will ping y'all.

I'd LOVE to go on a trip with y'all eventually. Yer kewl to me!

(and you know, I'm cool, since I spelled cool as "kewl") :p
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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby coasterbill » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:10 am

I went to one TPR event ever. It was East Coast Bash at Kings Dominion a few years ago (which I believe took place in the middle of a TPR tour, I don't remember which one). We had a great time, but we saw some things that day that any sensible person would need to vent about if they were running the event and I can't fault anyone from doing so on their personal Facebook page. One guy ran into a plastic garbage can during TPR Quest and acted as if he had just lost a leg in Vietnam and had the PR team basically consoling him in the middle of picnic area as they were obviously worried about a potential B.S. lawsuit even though everyone knew the guy was fine. I happened to look up on "stage" to see Elissa understandably rolling her eyes in disgust. Who wouldn't vent???

Some coaster enthusiasts are super cool, but an unreasonably high percentage of them are either weird as hell, entitled sh*tbags or some combination of these two things. If you don't know what I'm talking about then you've either never been to an enthusiast event or you're likely part of the problem. If I had to deal with these people for a living I'd lose my damn mind.

Anyway, we had a great time at that event. We didn't talk to the Alvey's much (if it all) because they were busy running an event and doing a million things at once but they seemed genuinely invested in making sure everyone was having a good time. I'm sure doing that from 8AM (or earlier) to Midnight (or later) would be exhausting, especially if it was a trip where you'd then have to get on a bus with the same people and do it again day after day. Who wouldn't need to vent???

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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby robbalvey » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:39 am

coasterbill wrote:One guy ran into a plastic garbage can during TPR Quest and acted as if he had just lost a leg in Vietnam and had the PR team basically consoling him in the middle of picnic area as they were obviously worried about a potential B.S. lawsuit even though everyone knew the guy was fine. I happened to look up on "stage" to see Elissa understandably rolling her eyes in disgust. Who wouldn't vent???

OMG! Don't even get me started on this! His "injury" if my memory serves correctly had more to do with the fact that his ex-girlfriend showed up at the event with her new boyfriend and he was trying to play the "oh, I'm hurt" sympathy card on her. I wanted to be all "Um, this is WHY she's not your girlfriend anymore!!!!!" Ugh, I hate people.

coasterbill wrote:Some coaster enthusiasts are super cool, but an unreasonably high percentage of them are either weird as hell, entitled sh*tbags or some combination of these two things. If you don't know what I'm talking about then you've either never been to an enthusiast event or you're likely part of the problem. If I had to deal with these people for a living I'd lose my damn mind.

This is so true. Every single word of this. And for us personally, we made the conscious decision that we were no longer going to put up nor welcome the "entitled sh*tbags" into TPR anymore. Yes, this has been met with resistance and lots of crap thrown our way, but we don't care. Because reading stupid comments from them on the internet complaining about us is SOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER than having to put up with these horrible people for a day at an event much less an entire week on a trip.

coasterbill wrote:I'm sure doing that from 8AM (or earlier) to Midnight (or later) would be exhausting, especially if it was a trip where you'd then have to get on a bus with the same people and do it again day after day. Who wouldn't need to vent???

You get this. Many people don't. People do not realize that when we do a tour, and that tour is ten days for example, that is ten days of 24/7 working on the trip. We don't really have that much "fun" on those trips as it is mostly all work, and it's all work so that everyone else on the trip can have fun. So when we have entitled sh*tbags like the guy I quoted above and all his horrible friends that we cannot stand, and then we do this for 10 years, you can bet Jurassic we are going to say "screw this" and no longer do those tours anymore. In 2012 we were on the road for something like 120 days that year. That's a LOT of time putting up with horrible people. And we just aren't going to do it anymore. Sure, we'll still do trips, but we'll pick and choose the people we WANT on our trips.
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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby Norwegian coasterfan » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:02 pm

Do these people have their own "hate on Robb Facebook page"? I can't believe some people :|

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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby robbalvey » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:07 pm

Norwegian coasterfan wrote:Do these people have their own "hate on Robb Facebook page"? I can't believe some people :|

They do, yes! lol It's hilarious!

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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby Norwegian coasterfan » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:13 pm

robbalvey wrote:
Norwegian coasterfan wrote:Do these people have their own "hate on Robb Facebook page"? I can't believe some people :|

They do, yes! lol It's hilarious!

I can imagine :lmao:

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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby coasterbill » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:16 pm

Norwegian coasterfan wrote:Do these people have their own "hate on Robb Facebook page"? I can't believe some people :|


Yes. It consists of almost 300 people who (in some cases) were banned over a decade ago but still haven't gotten over it bashing the TPR for holding grudges and "not having a life".

Think about that. Take as much time as you need.

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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby hydra » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:19 pm

Well, if they hate you that means you made it right?
I kid.
I have been on these here forums going on 12 years now. (Wow I am old) And Have found that yes, you may disagree with what someone says or the way they respond, or whatever the case may be. But you have to sit back and remember...this is OUR HOBBY. MOST of us on here are not in the industry.
THIS SHOULD BE FUN, and if its not fun for you anymore or it upsets you too much, just walk away. If you don't,you ruin it for other people.

I have met Robb on multiple occasion at media events and he has never been anything other than professional and knowledgeable.

SO keep up the hard work and I look forward to 12 more years of TPR.

**edit** Regardless of your beef with an individual, don't drag their family into it.

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Re: When people ask us why we don't do TPR tours anymore...

Postby ALT2870 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:30 pm

Stuff like this really pisses me off and people wonder why I never joined Facebook. Humanity really is slipping away and this is solid evidence of that. There is nothing wrong with venting on your personal Facebook page. If the guy didn't like it, get off of it. coasterbill really hit it home about some enthusiast. There is a reason I joined this site and every less whinny enthusiast we have it better. This community helped me planned the trip of a lifetime and I had a great time. (And I still need to put that trip report together to return the favor.) I've been apart of other communities who are a lot more sterile then this. As long as you have common sense and are respectable to other members, you can post a lot of fun interesting stuff. I know coasterbill's latest report would be kicked off plenty of places. I completely understand why there are no more TPR tours and probably in the future no WCB. I'm not going to whine about it because if I was put in the exact same position, I'd do the exact same. Hopefully I'll attend WCB this year but if it doesn't happen, I'm blaming those that whine and aren't thankful, not Robb. Good for him enjoying time with his friends across the world doing what he likes to do. I'm genuinely thankful for this site (more then I can express) and may it at least live on for years to come.

As for the hate Robb Facebook pages, hey, must be doing something right.
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