Six Flags Discovery Kingdom (SFDK) Discussion Thread

[dannyboy13]

I could very easily see a clone of the Batman free spin replacing Kong in the next few years. If they could make it fit in Boomerang's spot, that would be amazing.

[Fire2box]

Yeah, it's hard to complain about getting an RMC, I just wish we were adding more coasters instead of replacing. Or, you know, taking out Kong since I refuse to ride it anymore

Replacing a GCI with an RMC feels like it is an addition to me even though the # of coasters technically didn't go up.

 

right now I think the best and maybe cheapest (I don't know) idea would be to: 2017 take out boomerang, put in Zacspin. Name it/theme it to joker.

As much as I personally love ZacSpins, I don't think you'll see another one any time soon, especially with the S&S FreeSpin model available as a much more universally enjoyed (And I'm guessing probably cheaper) version of that kind of layout.

 

Right i forgot about the S&S freespin. Would totally go with that more.

[RAWKIN_coaster38]

As much as I do prefer coasters that focus more on airtime and positive Gs than inversions, RMC does a really good job with inversions. They are smooth, transition well, and provide some pretty funky airtime type feelings. I wouldn't mind at all if Roar had one or two inversions similar to the barrel rolls on Outlaw Run or the Zero G on Iron Rattler

This.

 

I get the feeling those of you saying Roar shouldn't have an inversion is because you haven't tried an RMC inversion yet. Definitely different! If your reasoning is that it would make it worse for families with little kids scared of loops... Sorry, this is gonna be the wrong coaster for those types of people. SFDK will have to get a family coaster for that. If your reasoning is you want a thrill ride without inversions... I don't think you'll be disappointed if Roar does have them and I think it will.

Does any other park have a similar problem?

I've been at Busch Gardens in Tampa all summer and they have the same issue. Even Cheetah Hunt has an inversion, and that did deter a few of our campers who didn't like inversions. Granted, they'll be getting Cobra's Curse next year, but until then Sand Serpent is the only "big" coaster they have without an inversion. I'm sure the next coaster SFDK gets will be more a family coaster, but then again, I thought that before and here we are getting a totally sick RMC!

 

I went to the park today for roar's final day of operation, least for general public. I rode 2 times in ERT and once around 5:25 pm then got in "line" to be the last in line. along with at least a few other enthusiats and people who just wanted to be last public riders. On our train we all spread out to fill the train as much as we could. I sacrificed myself to the middle since I only really did front and back all season long.

 

 

We get into the bay station and the whole train is chanting "one more time, one more time, one more time" So the ride ops and staff are kind enough to let us go again.

We get back to the bay station again chant is now " thank you six flags clap clap clap-clap-clap" even while we pull into the station after the "orginal" ride ops from 1999 are climbing the lift hill.

 

Ride op "okay guys, do you truly want to be the last people to ride Roar?" the train erupts with excitement. screaming, hollering, cheering, etc. So they send us though for a 3rd time but only if we chant " roar roar roar roar roar" which of course most if not all of us do. I figure we aren't likely the last train of passenger('s) to ride roar but it was a immensely nice touch on their part.

 

 

Also, i was there two thursdasys ago and there's twice as much new wood near the matience bay as there was then. Pretty much finally confirms RMC to me.

 

 

also there was a DJ booth with trivia about roar, answers were everything SF:DK's facebook page has been posting about "Roar lore". won a farewell to roar shirt and a piece of roar. it's a small wooden block.

 

 

PS: a single guy was wearing "save roar" airbrushed homemade shirt. Protester rider, party of 1. He was not in the "final train".

 

ride count: medusa three. 2 front, 1 back.

roar six 1 front, 2 back 3 middle.

Oh man I'm so jealous! I really wanted to make it there but I literally just got a job that day and had to start. We didn't get done until 5:30 and I thought I wouldn't be able to make it from Mill Valley to SFDK in time. It's worth it to have this job, but I'm still a little sad I couldn't ride Roar as it is one last time.

 

I agree with what everyone has been saying.... it is bittersweet because I didn't think Roar was that bad, I liked it, and it did fill a niche at the park (transition coaster for younger ones) but I am very excited for what will be made of it! I'd much rather have them demolish Kong for a ground-up RMC, but I'm not complaining because I never thought we'd be getting an RMC this soon and I'm so excited for this announcement that I really can't wait!

[blakelemay23]

Imagine if RMC added floorless trains in the future, not saying it is probable, but it surely isn't impossible. I think it would make the ride experience ten times better, and keep in mind the use of OTSRs is not needed IMO (restraints on Rip Rocket) this is just an idea but i would sh!t my pants if RMC ever made floorless trains for a ride. (ROAR? Jk)

[woolandmammoth]

^^^

I just realized for the first time in my life how incredible a wooden coaster (or a steel coaster that looks like a wooden coaster) would be with floorless trains. I never even considered it before. This is something I would really like to see someday. I don't think Roar is going to have them.

[Superbatboy]

Would be interesting to see how they would pull off floorless trains on an RMC. Considering the current RMC trains pretty much staple your legs down.

[thrillseeker4552]

Would be interesting to see how they would pull off floorless trains on an RMC. Considering the current RMC trains pretty much staple your legs down.

 

Considering that RMC's trains have leg restraints, designing floorless trains would also mean redesigning the restraints and seats, which then elevates the height of the train on the track (limiting the clearance of head-choppers), plus there would need to be a floor mechanism in the station...

 

Just seems kinda pointless to me, but I guess you never know with RMC.

 

EDIT: Whoops, I quoted the wrong post, but I guess this just applies to the discussion in general.

[blakelemay23]

Would be interesting to see how they would pull off floorless trains on an RMC. Considering the current RMC trains pretty much staple your legs down.

 

Considering that RMC's trains have leg restraints, designing floorless trains would also mean redesigning the restraints and seats, which then elevates the height of the train on the track (limiting the clearance of head-choppers), plus there would need to be a floor mechanism in the station...

 

Just seems kinda pointless to me, but I guess you never know with RMC.

 

EDIT: Whoops, I quoted the wrong post, but I guess this just applies to the discussion in general.

So its pointless because you have to redesign the train, find new restraints, and add floor mechanisms? That is not a hassle. If any company is innovative enough and has track sustainable for floorless trains its RMC. The only thing that has to happen is the idea popping up in Alan Schilke's head and it will happen if he puts his mind to it. If he designed a launched RMC, RMCs with insane elements and inversions on TWO styles of track, what makes you think he can't design a floorless trains? Hell, The same track is used for Batman The Ride and its a 4D flipping coaster (designed by ALAN SCHILKE) take your favorite RMC and imagine it with floorless trains (f'ing masterpiece right?) RMC could re-invent the suspended coaster if they wanted to.

EDIT: could you imagine it? IRON NINJA, EXTRA IRON DRAGON lmao

[DoinItForTheFame]

Imagine if RMC added floorless trains in the future, not saying it is probable, but it surely isn't impossible. I think it would make the ride experience ten times better, and keep in mind the use of OTSRs is not needed IMO (restraints on Rip Rocket) this is just an idea but i would sh!t my pants if RMC ever made floorless trains for a ride. (ROAR? Jk)

 

To add to this I will say the same thing I said in the Dollywood thread. It is not needed, not necessary, and I assure you most people probably would not even care. RMC Coasters are all about the elements, and the airtime... Not a "gimmick" like floorless coaster trains.

[robbalvey]

So SFDK posted this to their twitter today...

 

But if you zoom in on the crane, look what we see....

[Password121]

RMC is rehabbing the trains for shipment to SFA, and they're replacing Roar with a dippin dots stand.

You heard it here first.

[Brassinthegrass]

I assume that means that we will have a new source for all things new at the park! I look forward to hearing ideas from the Dippin Dots man!

[chickenbowl]

That could be a crane from ANY RMC,it doesn't necessarily mean it's our RMC!

[Fire2box]

I think that crane was there last sunday when the final day was going on. I just couldn't read the text either way this is cool. Hope they upload a video showing the car's being taken off and confirm they are going to the other Roar.

[zombi3elephant9]

RMC is rehabbing the trains for shipment to SFA, and they're replacing Roar with a dippin dots stand.

You heard it here first.

 

[dannyboy13]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh snap! Wonder when we'll see the first simulated on ride video. Did they have one prepared during the announcement of TC last year? I can't remember

[BoulderDash]

I think that crane was there last sunday when the final day was going on. I just couldn't read the text either way this is cool. Hope they upload a video showing the car's being taken off and confirm they are going to the other Roar.

 

Those trains are probably not going to Roar at SFA because they got SFNE's Cyclone trains which means they will most likely continue with the PTC trains.

[Password121]

I think that crane was there last sunday when the final day was going on. I just couldn't read the text either way this is cool. Hope they upload a video showing the car's being taken off and confirm they are going to the other Roar.

 

Those trains are probably not going to Roar at SFA because they got SFNE's Cyclone trains which means they will most likely continue with the PTC trains.

I was not aware of this. Can anyone confirm? I'm fairly confident Roar has had the same trains this year as last year.

[BoulderDash]

I think that crane was there last sunday when the final day was going on. I just couldn't read the text either way this is cool. Hope they upload a video showing the car's being taken off and confirm they are going to the other Roar.

 

Those trains are probably not going to Roar at SFA because they got SFNE's Cyclone trains which means they will most likely continue with the PTC trains.

I was not aware of this. Can anyone confirm? I'm fairly confident Roar has had the same trains this year as last year.

 

It has the same trains, the park just physically has them, probably for parts. Which probably means they will still use the PTC trains.

 

[Fire2box]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh snap! Wonder when we'll see the first simulated on ride video. Did they have one prepared during the announcement of TC last year? I can't remember

 

From what I recall they had a CGI POV of TC when they unveiled the plans/name for it. So I'm thinking on September 3rd, when six flags unveils plans for all their 2016 stuff we'll see a CGI POV video.

[Coaster Hero]

Yeah SF hires 3DVIP for the major flat rides and obviously all of their coasters. They've been doing it since Kingda Ka's promo vid. For WC they released the full POV a couple days after the announcement but for TC all we had was b-roll footage until months later when they finally released the full POV. I can't wait to see what kind of monster Alan is going to turn this thing into

[Fire2box]

So while we wait for the week of September 3rd. Does anyone have any thoughts about the animal attractions?

 

this year saw the removal of the African Elephants and the Shark Experience seems as lack luster as ever, massive one piece tank and there's barely anything in it. Back in the 90's I think they used to play relaxing, oceanic themed music and for most of my visit's this season the moving pathway trough the shark tube wasn't moving. Meanwhile, nothing's done with that new tank they put in the early 00's they built behind it, not that they really kept the glass clean on that.

 

I am complaining about stuff that maybe general guests don't really care all too much about and change is good of course. I'm just wondering if it's just all a slow push to where at some point they only have tigers, dolphins, seals, sea lions and walrus and the African penguins be their only animals. If I ran the park, I think I'd take out the shark experience or revamp it a lot to be a lot more educational then what it currently is. then after that's done likely send the lions someplace else and close their den/cage down. As a guest, it's sometmes really hard to view the lions even while their out.

 

plus that back area still seems rather forgotten about by anyone other then handlers and maintenance. Which is why I think it's the perfect place to go chill out, get away from the crowds and eat.

 

 

also: I'll likely be bringing my still camera along in my next visit's to get photo's of roar's progress. Really wish SF:DK social media stuff would step up their game such as showing pictures or videos of the revamped wildlife show. Even their high dive show isn't advertised on anything but those TV commercials on local stations.

[blakelemay23]

Imagine if RMC added floorless trains in the future, not saying it is probable, but it surely isn't impossible. I think it would make the ride experience ten times better, and keep in mind the use of OTSRs is not needed IMO (restraints on Rip Rocket) this is just an idea but i would sh!t my pants if RMC ever made floorless trains for a ride. (ROAR? Jk)

 

To add to this I will say the same thing I said in the Dollywood thread. It is not needed, not necessary, and I assure you most people probably would not even care. RMC Coasters are all about the elements, and the airtime... Not a "gimmick" like floorless coaster trains.

Well ill add this, that was just an idea, and most of all just an opinion. Even though i recognize this is just your opinion, and it doesen't matter if "most people don't care" its simply just another kind of ride experience which catches attention, right? If its not "needed, not neccesary" (that sounds totally stupid btw) than im sure its the case for every ride, correct? Than that would mean the B&M wing coaster was not needed and not neccesary, wouldnt it? People don't design different styles of coasters cause it is "needed and neccesary" its done because its a different ride experience. Who the hell are you to say its "not needed and necessary" in the first place? What gave you that idea? The same designer of RMC designed the 4D coaster(was it not neccesary?) The word "gimmick" is so dumb please stop. Floorless trains arent a "gimmick" its a coaster with a different ride experience which gives you the sensation of having the track under you. Just people say the stand up was a "gimmick" not just a coaster designed for the sensation of standing on a coaster lmao. Im sure if the idea of floorless trains sounds good in Alan Schilke's head and he wants to add them onto a coaster "only meant for elements and airtime" to make a whole nother ride experience im sure the words"needed and necessary" arent going to stop him. Just like if B&M wanted to add winged cars onto a coaster made for "only inversions and smoothness" to add a flying sensation they... OH WAIT!!

[Fire2box]

Imagine if RMC added floorless trains in the future, not saying it is probable, but it surely isn't impossible. I think it would make the ride experience ten times better, and keep in mind the use of OTSRs is not needed IMO (restraints on Rip Rocket) this is just an idea but i would sh!t my pants if RMC ever made floorless trains for a ride. (ROAR? Jk)

 

To add to this I will say the same thing I said in the Dollywood thread. It is not needed, not necessary, and I assure you most people probably would not even care. RMC Coasters are all about the elements, and the airtime... Not a "gimmick" like floorless coaster trains.

Well ill add this, that was just an idea, and most of all just an opinion. Even though i recognize this is just your opinion, and it doesen't matter if "most people don't care" its simply just another kind of ride experience which catches attention, right? If its not "needed, not neccesary" (that sounds totally stupid btw) than im sure its the case for every ride, correct? Than that would mean the B&M wing coaster was not needed and not neccesary, wouldnt it? People don't design different styles of coasters cause it is "needed and neccesary" its done because its a different ride experience. Who the hell are you to say its "not needed and necessary" in the first place? What gave you that idea? The same designer of RMC designed the 4D coaster(was it not neccesary?) The word "gimmick" is so dumb please stop. Floorless trains arent a "gimmick" its a coaster with a different ride experience which gives you the sensation of having the track under you. Just people say the stand up was a "gimmick" not just a coaster designed for the sensation of standing on a coaster lmao. Im sure if the idea of floorless trains sounds good in Alan Schilke's head and he wants to add them onto a coaster "only meant for elements and airtime" to make a whole nother ride experience im sure the words"needed and necessary" arent going to stop him. Just like if B&M wanted to add winged cars onto a coaster made for "only inversions and smoothness" to add a flying sensation they... OH WAIT!!

 

The person didn't say gimmicks aren't nice, but they are right in saying it's not necessary either. Looking up the definition of the word "gimmick" with google it says "a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business." Well floorless coasters are a type of device with the drop away floors and what not.

 

You said you realized this is just the person's opinion, but from my point of view you just wanted to lambaste the person under the guise of defending various types of coasters that have come before. It's not like Alan from RMC is going to come on TPR, read one post and decide " oh shit. One person on the internet doesn't like the idea we at RMC had, better not do it now."

[blakelemay23]

Imagine if RMC added floorless trains in the future, not saying it is probable, but it surely isn't impossible. I think it would make the ride experience ten times better, and keep in mind the use of OTSRs is not needed IMO (restraints on Rip Rocket) this is just an idea but i would sh!t my pants if RMC ever made floorless trains for a ride. (ROAR? Jk)

 

To add to this I will say the same thing I said in the Dollywood thread. It is not needed, not necessary, and I assure you most people probably would not even care. RMC Coasters are all about the elements, and the airtime... Not a "gimmick" like floorless coaster trains.

Well ill add this, that was just an idea, and most of all just an opinion. Even though i recognize this is just your opinion, and it doesen't matter if "most people don't care" its simply just another kind of ride experience which catches attention, right? If its not "needed, not neccesary" (that sounds totally stupid btw) than im sure its the case for every ride, correct? Than that would mean the B&M wing coaster was not needed and not neccesary, wouldnt it? People don't design different styles of coasters cause it is "needed and neccesary" its done because its a different ride experience. Who the hell are you to say its "not needed and necessary" in the first place? What gave you that idea? The same designer of RMC designed the 4D coaster(was it not neccesary?) The word "gimmick" is so dumb please stop. Floorless trains arent a "gimmick" its a coaster with a different ride experience which gives you the sensation of having the track under you. Just people say the stand up was a "gimmick" not just a coaster designed for the sensation of standing on a coaster lmao. Im sure if the idea of floorless trains sounds good in Alan Schilke's head and he wants to add them onto a coaster "only meant for elements and airtime" to make a whole nother ride experience im sure the words"needed and necessary" arent going to stop him. Just like if B&M wanted to add winged cars onto a coaster made for "only inversions and smoothness" to add a flying sensation they... OH WAIT!!

 

The person didn't say gimmicks aren't nice, but they are right in saying it's not necessary either. Looking up the definition of the word "gimmick" with google it says "a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business." Well floorless coasters are a type of device with the drop away floors and what not.

 

You said you realized this is just the person's opinion, but from my point of view you just wanted to lambaste the person under the guise of defending various types of coasters that have come before. It's not like Alan from RMC is going to come on TPR, read one post and decide " oh poo-poo. One person on the internet doesn't like the idea we at RMC had, better not do it now."

Ok. Welll ummmm. So a floorless coaster fits under the definition of "gimmick" you found because it has mechanical floors? That was used to draw publicity? Have you ever thought it was just used so people could step over the track safely so the new ride experience would work? And what does TPR have to do with this? You think he has to read a forum to come up with a floorless train? How is that relevant? Nothing "isn't neccesary" people come up with ideas and do it if they like it. This guy literally is so against something that is just an idea that he felt the need to go against it on two threads. Just because something isn't probable doesen't mean its not possible. Just because you can't imagine it happening doesen't mean it won't.