TEDodd Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Well, that's quite the development. The AG seems to have screwed up a lot. No excuse considering how easy it is to get an indictment from a Grand Jury historically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_s Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 While this is a terrible case, it's pretty obvious the severity of the charges had something to do with the father's political influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) Schlitterbahn water park in Kansas City appears unlikely to open KANSAS CITY, KS (AP) -- A Kansas water park where a 10-year-old boy was decapitated isn't hiring lifeguards, advertising or selling tickets with less than a month left before its typical Memorial Day weekend opening date, underlining speculation that it could be put up for sale. Schlitterbahn remains mum on its plans, but has largely removed reference from its website about the park in Kansas City, Kansas, where Caleb Schwab was killed in 2016 when the raft he was riding on the 17-story Verruckt slide went airborne and hit a metal pole. Verruckt - German for "crazy" - never reopened and was torn down last year. Season tickets have been on sale for months for Schlitterbahn's four Texas locations, but not the Kansas park. "Schlitterbahn has not informed us of their plans, but we are assuming they are not opening this summer," said Unified Government of Wyandotte County and Kansas City, Kansas, spokesman Mike Taylor. "We are hopeful that Schlitterbahn will come under new ownership and branding, and will open next summer." Speculation about a potential sale was fueled by mortgage lender, EPR Properties, announcing last week that Schlitterbahn is expected to pay off its approximately $190 million loan on the property soon. EPR chief executive Gary Silvers told analysts on a conference call about its first-quarter earnings that Schlitterbahn is working with an undisclosed third-party lender on the deal. Schlitterbahn spokeswoman Winter Prosapio declined to comment on the Kansas park's future, including whether it would open. "Schlitterbahn is a privately held company and does not comment on financials," she said in an email. "Our Texas parks are off to a strong start for the 2019 season, but we have no news to share about our KC property at this time." EPR said in a previous filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that it agreed to advance Schlitterbahn additional amounts under the mortgage. The filing noted an offseason shortfall and the cost of legal issues stemming from Caleb's death during a special day for elected officials and their families. Caleb's father, Scott Schwab, then a state lawmaker, was elected Kansas secretary of state last year. With his urging, lawmakers voted to strengthen the state's relatively lax oversight of amusement park rides. Caleb's family received nearly $20 million in settlements, and two women who were seriously injured while riding with him settled for an undisclosed amount. Prosecutors also filed criminal charges against Schlitterbahn co-owner Jeff Henry, the designer of Verruckt, the park's operations manager and two maintenance workers, alleging that shoddy planning and maintenance led to Caleb's death. But the maintenance workers were acquitted in October, and a judge dismissed charges against the other three in January citing improper evidence. One issue was that grand jurors were shown clips from a Travel Channel television show documenting construction of the Verruckt, in which Henry and others emphasized the risks to riders on a raft dropping 17 stories before climbing a second, 50-foot (15.24-meter) hump. Defense attorneys argued the video didn't show how the ride actually worked and that prosecutors didn't properly explain to the jury that it was a dramatization. The video showed boats flying up in a similar manner to how Caleb died. Charges of drug possession and hiring someone for sex also are pending against Henry in a neighboring Kansas county. Taylor, the Wyandotte County official, said the big issue is having an abandoned water park in a bustling tourist area that includes the Kansas Speedway race track, the Sporting Kansas City soccer stadium and a busy shopping area. "From the Unified Government's perspective we would love to see the park open in the future and be a viable tourist attraction." Copyright 2019 The Associated Press. Link ... good PS: In other news, despite the fact that the AG screwed up on the Schlitterbahn case, a few months ago the judge found probable cause that Jeff Henry was selling meth and hiring prostitutes. I know he got off on a technicality and these charges aren't nearly as severe but I really want to see this dude in jail. Edited May 18, 2019 by coasterbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Agreed. I don't know where this $190 million is coming from though. That's not a small amount of money to anyone, and I'd like to know what whoever that is wants in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Coaster Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Every story about this place gets fishier and fishier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Schlitterbahn water park in Kansas City appears unlikely to open GOOD! I hope this ends up being the case for the rest of the chain as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 This whole situation is rough. I fondly remember watching those Discovery / Travel Channel specials and the number one waterpark was always a Schlitterbahn park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEDodd Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Schlitterbahn water park in Kansas City appears unlikely to open ... good Hate to see any park close. The effect on the local economy, especially the younger summer workers. Not to mention the loss of the activity (getting kids today outside and moving). New management. Revamp the safety program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Eh, I don’t care. If the local economy takes a hit that’s a shame but this place should not be in business. Plus... if the local economy takes a hit and nobody has money then Jeff Henry will need to drop his meth prices and anything that takes money out of his pocket is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) The effect on the local economy, especially the younger summer workers. Not to mention the loss of the activity (getting kids today outside and moving) So by your logic any community without a water park means teens don't have summer jobs and they don't ever go outside? #dumb #stupid #Idiocracy Edited May 18, 2019 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 ^This Plus, not only is that dumb but even if you subscribe to that dumb theory it should be noted that Oceans of Fun at Worlds of Fun is like 20 miles away and they don’t give free tickets to human traffickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEDodd Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Plus, not only is that dumb but even if you subscribe to that dumb theory it should be noted that Oceans of Fun at Worlds of Fun is like 20 miles away and they don’t give free tickets to human traffickers. What part of new management was missed? I never read much about problems with the park until the death. Seemed to have lots of fun, safe rides. Great that people have another option. I didn't when the "local" park (an hour away) closed due to poor management. Next closest was 3+ hrs and we never went. Affected a lot in the area. Summer jobs both at the park and other businesses the depended on the visitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) Plus, not only is that dumb but even if you subscribe to that dumb theory it should be noted that Oceans of Fun at Worlds of Fun is like 20 miles away and they don’t give free tickets to human traffickers. What part of new management was missed? What part of me thinking your entire post was stupid was missed? I didn't when the "local" park (an hour away) closed due to poor management. Next closest was 3+ hrs and we never went. Affected a lot in the area. Summer jobs both at the park and other businesses the depended on the visitors. Yes, we read your post. Thought it was dumb. Didn't need for you to re-post it like as though we didn't actually read it. There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between Visionland closing, which is the only park of its size in the area for miles, and a smaller-sized water park in an area that has similar attractions nearby. I "get" that maybe you just don't know enough about what you're talking about, and that's fine, but please do not treat the people who DO like they are idiots. Thanks. Edited May 19, 2019 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 An interesting email I just got from Schlitterbahn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 First Whataburger, now this.... Texas taking some hits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 ^ other States keep passing on taking Ted Cruz off our hands tho. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 ^ other States keep passing on taking Ted Cruz off our hands tho. . Yeah but youre also trying to give us Beto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 ^ other States keep passing on taking Ted Cruz off our hands tho. . Yeah but youre also trying to give us Beto. Beto will be dropping out soon anyways. . but at least he's not as creepy at Ted. . LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Beto is a much better table dancer than Ted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Coaster Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Sorry if there would be a better place for this, but I couldn't find a page for the Schlitterbahn New Braunfels location. Has anyone had any luck reserving a visit to Schlitterbahn New Braunfels with a Platinum Pass on their online reservation system? It seems like it's set up to accept the Schlitterbahn specific season pass, which has a 14 digit barcode as opposed to the 20 digit ticket number and 8 digit identifier on the back of the Platinum Pass. The Schlitterbahn New Braunfels site lists a contact number, but it goes to voicemail after a few rings and they haven't responded to an email sent last week. So out of curiosity, I called the Galveston location and got right through, but they had no clue what Cedar Fair or a Platinum Pass even was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazma Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I didn't have luck either, but I did read on their page somewhere that their systems have not been converted so you have to call or contact them. We were going to stay at the resort, and since they are only allowing one visit from pass holders, it seemed a way around it, if you are staying on site and willing to pay, is to pay a little more for the stay and play package that guarantees tickets each day you are in the resort, starting with the next day of the overnight stay (ie. Tuesday if you check in Monday.). In principal it doesn't seem we should have to pay, but on the other hand, to come all that way and only be allowed in once, I figured I should just pay the upcharge. It isn't very much and the rooms are relatively cheap from "usual" pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Coaster Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 ^ That's true about the hotels since I'd need to book one anyway, but in principle I just want to redeem a perk that's included on my Platinum Pass. I'm hoping they eventually respond to the emails I sent, but I'll keep their hotel in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWoodenCoasters Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 When CF introduced the multi-park aspect of their better pass years ago, I traveled the country with my daughter and had to hassle with each and every guest services office at the other parks to use it...system not compatible. That pass is sold explicitly as valid at Schlitterbahn. If they don't respond to your polite email requesting a reservation I would politely email corporate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 It might be better to start a new thread rather than asking questions about water park season passes in a thread created after a ten year old boy sheared his head off. I mean... I'm just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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