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Line jumpers are annoying, rude, inconsiderate, and a number of other things I won't say out loud. Many parks tell you to report line jumpers, but when has anyone ever done that (or had security actually do something about it)?

 

I think the solution could be quite simple:

 

Shame them.

 

Simply take a picture of the offender and then tweet/instagram it with the hashtag #LineJumper, preferably also with the park & ride tagged. Maybe park security could use that to do something about it, but even if they don't, maybe enough public shaming of line jumpers will discourage them.

 

Thoughts?

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I wasn't there but at La Ronde (yesterday I think), a guy reported four line jumpers and they all had their season pass "chipped" at the corner to mark that they got a warning from security, plus a ton of peoples laughed at them on a La Ronde spotted page. Take that line skippers !

 

I totally agree that Line jumpers should get more warnings, but yeah it's kind of difficult to get rid of them as no one reports them. Sometimes I block peoples who try to pass the line, but not always. If we could post pictures and laugh of them, I would love to, but with all privacy laws I don't think we can. They would definitely deserve it for beeing annoying, though.

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Public shaming. On social networks where only your friends see what you post.

 

You seem confused.

 

Unless you have your account set to private, both twitter & instagram posts default to public. Plus, someone could take all those hhashtagged posts & aggregate them to a LineJumperShame account or website or something.

 

One of the major problems with line jumpers is that most people just let them by because they don't want to deal with a confrontation, and if someone tries to block/stop/call them out the people around them usually won't back them up because they don't want to deal with the confrontation. So a solution that isn't directly confrontational might actually be able to work.

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There will always be people in life looking for a cheap way to get ahead of others, it's just a part of life. I just try to ignore them and focus on something else. There's no way (other than physically stopping them) to really stop line jumpers

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We can all appreciate your enthusiasm, but there's no way this will work. People don't care about shaming. Hell, people don't even care about jail (aka - timeout).

 

No offense, but just know that this is what society is really like when you step out from behind your computer. It sucks. And to think for the most part you're still dealing with the better half of society.

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Have security video cameras in the ride ques and if security spots a "line jumper" they'll kick him/her out of the park with no refund and a possible banishment from that park!

 

Unfortunately security has to be more concerned with things like loss prevention and safety, instead of line jumping. Although it's rude, there is no physical harm done and no property lost in order to waste the type of resources that would need to be used to man the security cameras.

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Alton Towers used to deal with line jumpers on Nemesis in a clever way.

 

So when a member of staff caught/saw any kind of line jumping, the person would be reported to the staff in the station, and security would be called, but they wouldn't take any immediate action, instead what they would do is still let the person take their ride, and then just have a little suprise for the person in question when they got off the ride(Security waiting and a nice escort off park) If security were delayed getting to the ride, they would deliberately cause a delay on the ride so they could still get there on time when the person got off.

I personally think machine guns should be placed around all the queue lines for every ride, with signs up saying anyone caught queue jumping will be shot, I bet it will soon all stop then

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I understand like jumping is considered rude by many people, but at every park I've been to, nobody cares. Actually, most people dontvreport them because they feel "sorry" for the line jumpers, saying how they want to "stay with their friends and are doing no harm".

 

As for a solution, I'd say the best way would be to scan wristbands that guests are given at the park entrance when guests enter the line, them again at the station... If the scans don't match, they don't ride.

 

Yes, I understand that system wouldn't be perfect, but it's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head.

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Simply take a picture of the offender and then tweet/instagram it with the hashtag #LineJumper, preferably also with the park & ride tagged.

 

Nah, (deleted link) is a much better solution

 

I realize you're in a Country other than the United States, so it might not be too big a deal in your Country . . but that particular thing you linked to?

 

has really terrible connotations here in the USA.

 

it's very uncool, and tho I won't report, I would appreciate if you delete?

 

Note: I'm asking as a fellow poster, and participant here at TPR -- not in any kind of Moderator, or Site Capacity. I'm simply a participant.

 

thanks,

bert

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I know it's not really practical, and it probably wouldn't do a whole lot, but I spent the day at Busch Gardens today, and I just got tired of people squeezing by to go meet up with their "family" or whatever. When I started this topic, I had just had *another* person do it, and I was quite frustrated.

 

 

I suppose I could just carry a small pocket-sized megaphone and yell "Line Jumper!" through it over and over...

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To me, it's a simple solution at the more organized parks- hand out tickets in numerical order. Then the op collects these tickets near the entrance to the station, paying attention to each ticket number. GADV did something like this last year with SORA (maybe this year as well, haven't been on it yet), and everything seemed to be pretty orderly.

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To me, it's a simple solution at the more organized parks- hand out tickets in numerical order. Then the op collects these tickets near the entrance to the station, paying attention to each ticket number. GADV did something like this last year with SORA (maybe this year as well, haven't been on it yet), and everything seemed to be pretty orderly.

 

The way you get around that is you have the entire group enter the line and take a ticket. Then some of the group leaves the line to go eat/use the bathroom/ride something else/whatever. Then they finish, re-enter the line (maybe even taking new numbers to avoid arousing suspicion), and re-join their original group near the front of the line. They have the valid ticket numbers in order, so there's no reason to think they're doing anything fishy. Watched that happen at X2 at SFMM.

 

And if your 'aha' moment is to have the ticket checker be before the station, that won't stop people from line-jumping *after* the tickets are taken. I witnessed that happen firsthand with Full Throttle at SFMM.

 

There really isn't a great solution. Too many people think it's okay or don't care enough to do anything about it.

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To me, it's a simple solution at the more organized parks- hand out tickets in numerical order. Then the op collects these tickets near the entrance to the station, paying attention to each ticket number. GADV did something like this last year with SORA (maybe this year as well, haven't been on it yet), and everything seemed to be pretty orderly.

 

The way you get around that is you have the entire group enter the line and take a ticket. Then some of the group leaves the line to go eat/use the bathroom/ride something else/whatever. Then they finish, re-enter the line (maybe even taking new numbers to avoid arousing suspicion), and re-join their original group near the front of the line. They have the valid ticket numbers in order, so there's no reason to think they're doing anything fishy. Watched that happen at X2 at SFMM.

 

And if your 'aha' moment is to have the ticket checker be before the station, that won't stop people from line-jumping *after* the tickets are taken. I witnessed that happen firsthand with YOLOcoaster at SFMM.

 

There really isn't a great solution. Too many people think it's okay or don't care enough to do anything about it.

 

To your first point, if a guest is to leave the line, they must hand the ticket back to the attendant at the entrance. There could be loopholes to this in certain queues, but in theory it should be pretty effective.

 

Of course no system is perfect, but any decently thought-out plan will cut the number of line jumpers down significantly. That is the goal.

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To me, it's a simple solution at the more organized parks- hand out tickets in numerical order. Then the op collects these tickets near the entrance to the station, paying attention to each ticket number. GADV did something like this last year with SORA (maybe this year as well, haven't been on it yet), and everything seemed to be pretty orderly.

 

The way you get around that is you have the entire group enter the line and take a ticket. Then some of the group leaves the line to go eat/use the bathroom/ride something else/whatever. Then they finish, re-enter the line (maybe even taking new numbers to avoid arousing suspicion), and re-join their original group near the front of the line. They have the valid ticket numbers in order, so there's no reason to think they're doing anything fishy. Watched that happen at X2 at SFMM.

 

And if your 'aha' moment is to have the ticket checker be before the station, that won't stop people from line-jumping *after* the tickets are taken. I witnessed that happen firsthand with YOLOcoaster at SFMM.

 

There really isn't a great solution. Too many people think it's okay or don't care enough to do anything about it.

 

To your first point, if a guest is to leave the line, they must hand the ticket back to the attendant at the entrance. There could be loopholes to this in certain queues, but in theory it should be pretty effective.

 

Of course no system is perfect, but any decently thought-out plan will cut the number of line jumpers down significantly. That is the goal.

 

You took the words right out of my mouth

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I was just on the TPR Scandi Tour. The worst offenders seemed to be at

Tusenfryd, in Norway (sorry Tusenfryd). I told a couple of teenage girls "no"

and motioned for the other three of the group to come back in the line

to join the couple, etc.etc.

 

Well, either they couldn't understand me, or they could

understand me, and held their ground. Well, for this attraction,

the group got separated, boo hoo. And a sweet teenage boy

(sitting on line rails, not right, but overlooked...) agreed with

me, said "Thank you, I can't stand line jumpers, too!" I almost

followed with, "Well, why didn't you stop them yourself?..."

 

...but my ego just got stoked, heh heh.

 

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This was where "it" happened... In a silly dark ride attraction queue.

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To me, it's a simple solution at the more organized parks- hand out tickets in numerical order. Then the op collects these tickets near the entrance to the station, paying attention to each ticket number. GADV did something like this last year with SORA (maybe this year as well, haven't been on it yet), and everything seemed to be pretty orderly.

 

The way you get around that is you have the entire group enter the line and take a ticket. Then some of the group leaves the line to go eat/use the bathroom/ride something else/whatever. Then they finish, re-enter the line (maybe even taking new numbers to avoid arousing suspicion), and re-join their original group near the front of the line. They have the valid ticket numbers in order, so there's no reason to think they're doing anything fishy. Watched that happen at X2 at SFMM.

 

And if your 'aha' moment is to have the ticket checker be before the station, that won't stop people from line-jumping *after* the tickets are taken. I witnessed that happen firsthand with YOLOcoaster at SFMM.

 

There really isn't a great solution. Too many people think it's okay or don't care enough to do anything about it.

 

I dont see whats wrong with the situation you gave here. The party all entered the line at the same time. If one or two of them have to leave and then come back, they arent adding any time to your wait. Everyone in line is right back where they started. Line jumping, at least in my opinion, is only a problem when time is added to your wait, as in more people end up in front of you than what started. That would be when two people enter a line while the rest of their party is off doing something else, and then said remainder of the party joins those two. But if the whole party is in front of you from the start, what difference does it make if they leave and come back, so long as its for the bathroom or something thats not riding other rides?

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For me, the best way to deal with it is not to be the line jumper myself. Some people are really aggressive and there might be conflicts if they found you shaming them or even reporting them. Safety is the first priority, I will report as long as I feel like its safe enough for me to do so.

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