Jump to content
  TPR Home | Parks | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Instagram 

Alton Towers Discussion Thread


Recommended Posts

I'm kind of glad that feelings about the actual coaster are moving back in a positive direction; I'm disappointed that the ride will be on the smaller side, but still happy for a new wooden coaster. The marketing, though...yeah, others have covered it. I approve of fire effects on coasters, though!

 

Still having trouble wrapping my head around it really being named Wicker Man. But I think I approve.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm disappointed that the ride will be on the smaller side, but still happy for a new wooden coaster.

 

Stats are similar to Fun Spot Orlando's White Lightning, and that ride is awesome. And besides, what Alton coaster is on the "bigger" side?

 

Still having trouble wrapping my head around it really being named Wicker Man. But I think I approve.

 

I will never be able to think of this ride without thinking of:TybTuTL.gif.255ad5f21a7548c2ed0f4fd08bb1e7e4.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm disappointed that the ride will be on the smaller side, but still happy for a new wooden coaster.

 

Stats are similar to Fun Spot Orlando's White Lightning, and that ride is awesome. And besides, what Alton coaster is on the "bigger" side?

It's absolutely a fair comment. IMO, a major park like Alton Towers SHOULDN'T be getting rides "with stats similar to Fun Spot" as Fun Spot is a smaller FEC, pay-per-ride type of a park. It's literally mainly a "go karts" place with some cool rides. (nothing wrong with that, I love Fun Spot!) . And while White Lightning *IS* a great ride, it's also a perfect fit for a smaller park, not a major park like Alton.

 

And when you ask "What rides at Alton are on the bigger side?" are you actually being serious or just trolling? Because no intelligent person would make that statement. Nemesis is quite possibly STILL the best inverted coaster out there. Smiler is still a world record holder. Air a giant sprawling MAJOR ride. And even though Oblivion may be short in track length it's still in the top 50 "tallest drops" in the world, which is actually still quite significant.

 

I'm hoping that the ride is at least somewhat decent because I feel it's been a while since either Alton or Thorpe have installed a ride that makes me overly excited about going back, which is why we haven't been since 2010. And just to be fair, you didn't see me rushing out to ride InvadR either. I'm sure it's a fun ride, but it's not major enough for me to make a trip just for that one coaster.

 

Now that coaster going in at Blackpool this year...

Edited by robbalvey
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am happy the coaster is getting what seems to be, a good theme, and fire effects. I just hope this is not to distract you from the fact that the coaster itself is short, unspectacular and unmemorable. I mean, looking at the construction photos and plans so far, it doesn't seem to have any stand out features? It looks like it will be a fun ride, with enclosed parts, pre-show, effects and a giant flaming wickerman you race through 3 times - but like I mentioned I do feel this is to mask what will be a tame coaster. I will reserve my final judgement of course until riding.

 

And as for the worlds first claim - the less said about that complete and utter lie, the better.

 

Also as Robb has hinted to above, I have a feeling that there will be another ICONic ride with a bigger appeal this year...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is just going to be a very solid family, low thrill coaster with a 1.2m height restriction so similar to Thirteen or Paultons new suspended coaster. Which the park need pretty badly.

 

The theme is just to make the ride to a wider base of people than just families. The dark theme will appeal to adults and teens and the fact my 6 year old can ride what she thinks is a big adult ride appeals my daughter very much. The fact the park has 3 nice coasters for the under 1.2m market now I realise isnt that important to the enthusiast but as a dad to a 6 and 3 year old is a draw.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

^^Persobally, I would much rather have Nicholas Cage inaugurate this ride.

 

No, scratch that. Instead of a Wicker Statue, I want a giant statue of Nicholas Cage that spews fire. And audio recordings of him during the ride. (Nooo! Not the bees!)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is just going to be a very solid family, low thrill coaster with a 1.2m height restriction so similar to Thirteen or Paultons new suspended coaster. Which the park need pretty badly.

While I do not disagree with this, my issue comes more in how it's being presented. Just like Thirteen, when you watch their preview videos this ride comes off as a BAD ASS OMFG I AM GOING DIE ride appealing to hard-core thrill seekers. Remember Thirteen when they said certain ages couldn't ride it and called it most the psychologically thrilling ride in the world or something like that? It's exactly the reason why I personally gave Thirteen such a poor review the first time we rode it. Not because it was that bad of a ride, but because it was hyped up to be the coaster that was going to fuck-you-up for life! And guess what? It was a giant Roller Skater with a drop track.

 

Had they just come out and said "Thirteen is going to be a really awesome family coaster" then I would have been "okay" with it. But when they actually said old people can't ride it, when it turns out that it's a ride that old people SHOULD be riding with their grandkids...I dunno. Just put me in the camp that makes me think that the marketing side of things just don't line up with the actual rides they are building, and I take issue with that.

 

Just come clean and tell people what the ride is...

 

"A family wooden roller coaster that will be solid, fun, but not overly insane and most people will probably LIKE it, but not if they think it's going to be more insane that Nemesis, Air, Similar or Oblivion, because it's not that at all."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not here to say Robb that I disagree with you. I know the marketing is frustrating and often over-exaggerates everything but you know something, this tactic works. Th13teen allowed the park's attendance to increase to some of the highest levels in recent years and WICKER MAN has certainly created a buzz on social media, with the fire. Physiologically, it's perfect marketing mixing wood and fire, to play on people's fears and if it works, it could be stunning and scary. As John Wardley said at the TTSP@15 event this year, "It's going to be a super ride. It's very different, different to anything else at Alton Towers." Maybe it's not going to be the most super scary thing ever, but shouldn't riding coasters be about having fun? Wicker Man is going to be a solid addition, adding an extra coaster to the already superb collection of coasters at the Alton Towers Resort.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not here to say Robb that I disagree with you. I know the marketing is frustrating and often over-exaggerates everything but you know something, this tactic works. Th13teen allowed the park's attendance to increase to some of the highest levels in recent years

But that increase only lasted a year. By 2011 it was back down to the same level as 2009, and by 2012 it was even lower still. If a park spends millions on a new coaster, they would surely want more from it than just a 3% increase for a single year? Thirteen doesn't seem like a very good ROI to me.

 

If a 3% increase for a single year is evidence that this tactic works, then what about all the other parks that don't employ this tactic and still get an increase of 3% or more? What about Europa Park which has seen a steady increase in attendance year-on-year?

 

Maybe it's not going to be the most super scary thing ever, but shouldn't riding coasters be about having fun?

Exactly, and that's what everybody is saying; it will be a fun ride, just like Thirteen is a fun ride. But 'fun' is not the message coming from marketing. Every time Alton Towers or Merlin lie and make up some dubious 'world first' claim, it just stinks of them having no confidence in their own product. The park did a poll of what coasters were people's favourites in 2010. Despite the fact it was new, and despite the hype, Thirteen came bottom and Nemesis came top. To me that sounds like the symptoms of an overhyped ride.

 

I hope none of this comes across as rude, it's all meant in the nicest possible way

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not here to say Robb that I disagree with you. I know the marketing is frustrating and often over-exaggerates everything but you know something, this tactic works.

If getting guests to come in the gate by making false promises about a ride that doesn't actually deliver them is what "works" for the British market then all I have to say to that is Brits have become just as dumb as Americans, which is depressing. Clearly when you see reviews like this posted online...

 

1981311312_ScreenShot2018-01-11at5_28_42PM.png.10e69f628159f5d418ccf51eaf1a443e.png

1804825094_ScreenShot2018-01-11at5_30_26PM.png.f04cded9904889876b878dc2c7058ec1.png

107265438_ScreenShot2018-01-11at5_31_05PM.jpg.410827b4c072634c53d9e273a5a513f5.jpg

You're not doing any service to satisfying the expectations of your guests...unless your guests expect that everything you tell them is going to be bullshit.

Edited by robbalvey
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use https://themeparkreview.com/forum/topic/116-terms-of-service-please-read/