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P. 766: Haunt Has Risen from the Grave

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Why would KD get a hyper when they already have a giga?? Unless it was a hyper with wing rider trains and a few inversions.

 

Canada's Wonderland and Carowinds say hello.

 

Yes, but they built rides that were bigger than what they already had, which was the whole point of building them.

I don't see why KD would install a B&M Hyper and say "come ride our new ride, it is similar to I305, only smaller".

 

I could see them making it the first-ever inverted hypercoaster or winged hypercoaster. That would actually have a marketing point.

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You kd guys seriously wouldn't want an airtime machine? You would rather have a wingrider over a airtime machine? Really? I would love to see a chance hyper gtx or intamin hyper at this park. Hill after rolling hill of airtime goodness. Height doesn't mean anything. Yes the next ride wont be as tall as 1305, doesn't mean it wont be a good ride

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You kd guys seriously wouldn't want an airtime machine? You would rather have a wingrider over a airtime machine? Really? I would love to see a chance hyper gtx or intamin hyper at this park. Hill after rolling hill of airtime goodness. Height doesn't mean anything. Yes the next ride wont be as tall as 1305, doesn't mean it wont be a good ride

I don't think that's what anyone is saying. Many are saying they'd love to see one, like you, but it won't happen because it wouldn't be easy to market. The GP barely knows what airtime is, or cares. All they think is "OMGBALLZ IT IS TALL" or "BOOO ITS SMALL"

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I'm pretty sure after over hearing many people say I305 was too much for them at Kings Dominion they would welcome an in-between coaster like a hyper.

 

This. Intimidator 305 is mostly a 1 or 2 times a day type of ride for the GP if they're brave enough to ride it. I live 3 hours from KD and 3 hours from Carowinds and all everyone ever talks about is 'the coaster at Kings Dominion that makes you lose your vision and is super fast'. It's an experience like many of the park goers have never experienced before and often one that some people think is too much to handle. If there ever was a real life Roller Coaster Tycoon coaster that makes park goers say "Roller Coaster 1 is too intense for me" it would be Intimidator 305.

 

On the other hand, I've been thinking about how well a thrilling family coaster could do at the park. Think something along the lines of Pandemonium at the Six Flags parks. Not only are they thrilling, but they are a hit with families. Ricochet always has one of the longest lines besides the main 'big boy coasters' in the park. I personally would love a Pandemonium-like ride where Shockwave currently sits. Not saying I could see this happening, but I would like it to - just a thought worth sharing.

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Kings Dominion's problem is that they have most of the more current types of coaster in some capacity. If the plan is to get ride of the shockwave the space is not very big however there a lot of trees in that area also so maybe that could be used to expand the new coaster footprint. Kings Dominion can be getting anything next season it is so hard to tell with them.

 

If I had my way I'd like to see them install a launched wing rider from B&M or maybe an Intamin combo inspired by Fahrenheit at Hershey Park and Maverick and Cedar Point. The RMC thing seems enticing too but I feel like RMC is basically making wood roller coaster go extinct.

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Kings Dominion's problem is that they have most of the more current types of coaster in some capacity. If the plan is to get ride of the shockwave the space is not very big however there a lot of trees in that area also so maybe that could be used to expand the new coaster footprint. Kings Dominion can be getting anything next season it is so hard to tell with them.

 

If I had my way I'd like to see them install a launched wing rider from B&M or maybe an Intamin combo inspired by Fahrenheit at Hershey Park and Maverick and Cedar Point. The RMC thing seems enticing too but I feel like RMC is basically making wood roller coaster go extinct.

 

1. Cedar Fair no longer works with Intamin.

 

2. RMC only makes crappy wooden coasters go extinct, not to mention they build wooden coasters themselves.

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I'm pretty sure after over hearing many people say I305 was too much for them at Kings Dominion they would welcome an in-between coaster like a hyper.

 

This. Intimidator 305 is mostly a 1 or 2 times a day type of ride for the GP if they're brave enough to ride it. I live 3 hours from KD and 3 hours from Carowinds and all everyone ever talks about is 'the coaster at Kings Dominion that makes you lose your vision and is super fast'. It's an experience like many of the park goers have never experienced before and often one that some people think is too much to handle. If there ever was a real life Roller Coaster Tycoon coaster that makes park goers say "Roller Coaster 1 is too intense for me" it would be Intimidator 305.

 

This is very true. I have went with some people that were told explicitly not to get on. I think some people confusing graying out with blacking out. i305 is intense in every sense of the word as far as coasters go.

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I'm pretty sure after over hearing many people say I305 was too much for them at Kings Dominion they would welcome an in-between coaster like a hyper.

 

This. Intimidator 305 is mostly a 1 or 2 times a day type of ride for the GP if they're brave enough to ride it. I live 3 hours from KD and 3 hours from Carowinds and all everyone ever talks about is 'the coaster at Kings Dominion that makes you lose your vision and is super fast'. It's an experience like many of the park goers have never experienced before and often one that some people think is too much to handle. If there ever was a real life Roller Coaster Tycoon coaster that makes park goers say "Roller Coaster 1 is too intense for me" it would be Intimidator 305.

 

On the other hand, I've been thinking about how well a thrilling family coaster could do at the park. Think something along the lines of Pandemonium at the Six Flags parks. Not only are they thrilling, but they are a hit with families. Ricochet always has one of the longest lines besides the main 'big boy coasters' in the park. I personally would love a Pandemonium-like ride where Shockwave currently sits. Not saying I could see this happening, but I would like it to - just a thought worth sharing.

 

I'd much rather have a B&M family invert than a Pandemonium clone. Now if it was like Cobra's Curse then it would be cool.

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It seems to me as if this once-peaceful thread has been divided into a few warring factions:

1. The hardcore KD fans (yours truly included ) that rage about and drool over the prospect of KD's next coaster. (example: OMFG KD2016 B&M WING FLYING INVERTED HYPERCOASTER NEW ENTRANCE FLOORLESS SHOCKWAVE RMC MEGAHURLERGRIZZLY 2.0, seriously, what are you smoking, guys?)

2. The casual/hardcore KD fans that agree that KD is due for a coaster but don't complain about it

3. The casual/hardcore KD fans that are perfectly content with KD's current lineup of coasters

4. The people with a different home park that claim that KD is fine and that (insert other Cedar Fair park here) deserves the next coaster (often get into arguments with group 1, and vice-versa)

5. Those who just want trip advice and are appalled.

Can't we all just chill out a bit and stop arguing? Stop speculating and enjoy the world's best coaster at Kings Dominion in Intimidator 305. Yes, they're due for a coaster, and no, it's likely not happening in 2016, so don't fret anymore. I used to play the speculation game, but there's no point now, since nothing big has any chance of showing up next year.

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^ Preach that to yourself. You're the one who begins the complaining in this and other threads nearly every time.

 

Realistically, if it's not a coaster in 2016, I'm hoping for a thrilling flat ride(s). It's been since 2012 without a new dry thrilling ride (if you count Windseeker as thrilling). I'd also like to see an area spruced up with the flat ride similar to what was done with the Gemini midway at Cedar Point and Route 76 at ValleyFair when their Disk'o coasters were installed. Speaking of those, a Disk'o coaster would do well at Kings Dominion, especially one of the ones that the riders face the outside of the car (Survivor/Tiki Twirl CGA) rather than the CP/VF model. http://www.zamperla.com/products/disko-coaster/

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^ Preach that to yourself. You're the one who begins the complaining in this and other threads nearly every time.

 

Realistically, if it's not a coaster in 2016, I'm hoping for a thrilling flat ride(s). It's been since 2012 without a new dry thrilling ride (if you count Windseeker as thrilling). I'd also like to see an area spruced up with the flat ride similar to what was done with the Gemini midway at Cedar Point and Route 76 at ValleyFair when their Disk'o coasters were installed. Speaking of those, a Disk'o coaster would do well at Kings Dominion, especially one of the ones that the riders face the outside of the car (Survivor/Tiki Twirl CGA) rather than the CP/VF model. http://www.zamperla.com/products/disko-coaster/

^ I literally just said above that I'm done complaining about 2016. Realistically, I'd like to see a Giant Frisbee, since it would be a great fit.

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And let's please stop with the Shockwave being torn down predictions. They aren't going to lose the title of oldest remaining standup coaster.

 

Well it's about the only rumor going around in the enthusiast world regarding the future and I've heard it from others that it has a chance to go within the next two seasons as it was "under consideration".

 

Plus, Cedar Fair is killing stand ups. Look at SkyRider at Wonderland, Mantis in Cedar Point, and now the rumor of Vortex's 2016 conversion at CA Great America... you can't really convert a crappy TOGO to a new thrilling experience, so you might as well sell or scrap it when land is needed for future expansion.

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And let's please stop with the Shockwave being torn down predictions. They aren't going to lose the title of oldest remaining standup coaster.

 

Why this is a title one would consider worth advertising is beyond me.

 

I was unaware that they made a big deal out of that now.

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And let's please stop with the Shockwave being torn down predictions. They aren't going to lose the title of oldest remaining standup coaster.

 

Why this is a title one would consider worth advertising is beyond me.

"The worst stand-up you'll ride (once)! Ride soon before the wheel assemblies collapse since we've run out of parts!"

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Is there any way to contact Pat Jones of Kings Dominion directly? I met her at the park a while back and she is a very sweet women. I would like to message her about something directly. Thanks

 

https://www.kingsdominion.com/contact-us

 

Your best bet is to just do the general 'contact us' and address it to her. Surprisingly, Kings Dominion does a nice job at passing along the emails to whoever you're trying to contact. It could take up to 2 weeks for a response though.

 

I wish Pat Jones had a Twitter, she'd be a good park GM to have one - great personality and strong love for the park.

Thank your so much for the info. I just shot them an email.

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And let's please stop with the Shockwave being torn down predictions. They aren't going to lose the title of oldest remaining standup coaster.

 

Why this is a title one would consider worth advertising is beyond me.

"The worst stand-up you'll ride (once)! Ride soon before the wheel assemblies collapse since we've run out of parts!"

 

The reason I don't see them tearing down Shockwave is because otherwise they wouldn't have a tame looper. Shockwave was the first inverting roller coaster I've been on. And before you say Anaconda, most would rather be pinned down for 30 seconds then get headbang for 2 minutes. Also it's in very good shape (considering this is a TOGO). I find that I305 is down a lot yet Shockwave is always open. For some reason KD takes good care of this coaster. I think Shockwave will be retired in about 7-8 years, but for right now, Cedar Fair wants to milk out the title of oldest standup. IMO Hurler is next on the chopping block.

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The reason I don't see them tearing down Shockwave is because otherwise they wouldn't have a tame looper. Shockwave was the first inverting roller coaster I've been on.

 

Nostalgia is good, but it's not like the ride is iconic in any sense of the term. They spruced it up and gave it a few more years, but it just isn't popular. It has a line because trains take forever to send out, not because it's a fan favorite.

 

And before you say Anaconda, most would rather be pinned down for 30 seconds then get headbang for 2 minutes.

 

I would take Anaconda - though I do find it to be just as outdated but significantly uglier - over Shockwave any day. I would be willing to bet that their ridership is actually very similar, with Anaconda's lines slightly shorter because of the much quicker dispatches. Neither is overwhelmingly popular or comfortable.

 

Also it's in very good shape (considering this is a TOGO). I find that I305 is down a lot yet Shockwave is always open. For some reason KD takes good care of this coaster.

 

At the same time, Togo is out of business while I-305 has carried Kings Dominion through six years of attendance boosts and capital improvements. Togos can operate just fine, but they're being removed from parks for a reason. Lack of parts, uncomfortable rides...they're just not competing.

 

I think Shockwave will be retired in about 7-8 years, but for right now, Cedar Fair wants to milk out the title of oldest standup. IMO Hurler is next on the chopping block.

 

Again, not a title that Kings Dominion is milking. Have they even mentioned it? I'm not sure I've ever heard them say such a thing. And why would they? 'Old' isn't a marketing term, unless you can play on a ride's history (Beast comes to mind). I agree that it could have another few years ahead of it, but I would be genuinely shocked to see it still standing at the end of the decade. Candy Apple Grove has seen a lot of improvements over the last few years, and I would expect to see that continue through the next few as well.

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