bert425 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Sadly my guess is a couple years down the road this unique one of a kind attraction gets replaced with a B&M invert. Plus side capacity would be soooo much better If they could re-use the mountain, it would great to use the mountain for a dark ride, but from what I've heard the problem was mostly the mountain itself, so the mountain will probably be coming down with the ride. Its anybody's guess as to what KD will add next. B&M inverts aren't that common to build anymore. Only one has been built in America in the last 10 years. Source: https://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&ml=6717&page=1&order=-8 I think that the better money would be on a dive coaster, traditional B&M hyper, or wing coaster. Or they'll just add some kind of kiddie area. sincerely doubt they would put a Hyper *right next to* I305. and would be genuinely shocked if they installed a Dive Coaster (not that it woudln't be a good fit for the park, as they don't have a coaster of that style. . but because it's so close to Griffon at BGW just up the street). at this point, I think many would be happy if they just put a bathroom over there.. but I really think it's likely gonna be a flat / flats going in that spot, as that area of the park is pretty coaster heavy. but hey, what do I know? Sorry to see Volcano go, but I understand why . . and I'm just glad i got a chance to ride it a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Why not bring in a water/dark ride attraction? The volcano would be perfect for something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellynn4 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I'm of the belief that the volcano won't last, either. TBH, I'm of the opinion that they SHOULD remove it alongside the coaster, rather than try to shoehorn yet another attraction into it. Just start from scratch. Personally, I could see a launch coaster similar to Copperhead Strike over there, but at this point it's all just pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 ^^Better yet why not get rid of the existing, already-successful and well established water park and make a new giant volcano themed water park in a totally different spot. ... just kidding, the thought of anyone doing something like that would just be ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ripleybl Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Richmond's local news station, Channel 8 News, just came by my work to interview me on my thoughts of the closing and removal of Volcano. Kristin Smith Dunlop interviewed me and she said that story will be on the 6pm news tonight. After the interview, she told me she also interviewed the "Head of Maintenance" of the ride and he gave a more detailed description, reason, and problems that were involved with the closing and removal of the coaster. I have never uploaded a photo or video before on this website, so I'll do my best to record the interview/story tonight and upload it to this thread. Anyone else in the Richmond area can film it or upload it too. I'm pretty sure I'll mess it up somehow when trying to post it. I must admit a was a little nervous during the interview so don't judge me too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Don't worry. They'll cut out any awkward parts and make you look composed. When I was on the news I had to drive a car with a camera pointed 2 feet away from my face, while doing my job... I like public speaking, but felt that it was going to turn out much worse than it did. My point is, don't worry about it. Don't underestimate the power of professional editing. I'm sure you're happy you had the opportunity. I'm looking forward to your video. [youtu_be] [/youtu_be] Sorry for MY plug. Now, back to the eruption of enthusiast tears. Edited February 11, 2019 by prozach626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Fast For Comfort Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Sadly my guess is a couple years down the road this unique one of a kind attraction gets replaced with a B&M invert. Plus side capacity would be soooo much better If they could re-use the mountain, it would great to use the mountain for a dark ride, but from what I've heard the problem was mostly the mountain itself, so the mountain will probably be coming down with the ride. Its anybody's guess as to what KD will add next. B&M inverts aren't that common to build anymore. Only one has been built in America in the last 10 years. Source: https://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&ml=6717&page=1&order=-8 I think that the better money would be on a dive coaster, traditional B&M hyper, or wing coaster. Or they'll just add some kind of kiddie area. sincerely doubt they would put a Hyper *right next to* I305. and would be genuinely shocked if they installed a Dive Coaster (not that it woudln't be a good fit for the park, as they don't have a coaster of that style. . but because it's so close to Griffon at BGW just up the street). at this point, I think many would be happy if they just put a bathroom over there.. but I really think it's likely gonna be a flat / flats going in that spot, as that area of the park is pretty coaster heavy. but hey, what do I know? Sorry to see Volcano go, but I understand why . . and I'm just glad i got a chance to ride it a few years ago. I wasn't saying that they would put it right next to i305. Did I say that? In my suggestion, they put somewhere in the park that's not right next to i305. And there's precedent: every other Cedar Fair park that has a giga also has a hyper... for whatever that's worth. And even if they didn't find any room other than i305, a traditional B&M hyper would be a totally different ride than i305. I305 is all G-force and tight banks/turns, while a more traditional B&M hyper would be about bunny hills, floater air, and getting to have a clambar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Sadly my guess is a couple years down the road this unique one of a kind attraction gets replaced with a B&M invert. Plus side capacity would be soooo much better If they could re-use the mountain, it would great to use the mountain for a dark ride, but from what I've heard the problem was mostly the mountain itself, so the mountain will probably be coming down with the ride. Its anybody's guess as to what KD will add next. B&M inverts aren't that common to build anymore. Only one has been built in America in the last 10 years. Source: https://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&ml=6717&page=1&order=-8 I think that the better money would be on a dive coaster, traditional B&M hyper, or wing coaster. Or they'll just add some kind of kiddie area. sincerely doubt they would put a Hyper *right next to* I305. and would be genuinely shocked if they installed a Dive Coaster (not that it woudln't be a good fit for the park, as they don't have a coaster of that style. . but because it's so close to Griffon at BGW just up the street). at this point, I think many would be happy if they just put a bathroom over there.. but I really think it's likely gonna be a flat / flats going in that spot, as that area of the park is pretty coaster heavy. but hey, what do I know? Sorry to see Volcano go, but I understand why . . and I'm just glad i got a chance to ride it a few years ago. I wasn't saying that they would put it right next to i305. Did I say that? In my suggestion, they put somewhere in the park that's not right next to i305. And there's precedent: every other Cedar Fair park that has a giga also has a hyper... for whatever that's worth. And even if they didn't find any room other than i305, a traditional B&M hyper would be a totally different ride than i305. I305 is all G-force and tight banks/turns, while a more traditional B&M hyper would be about bunny hills, floater air, and getting to have a clambar. Volcano is right next to I305 the conversation is what was going to go in place of Volcano -- implied by your talk of what they would do with the Mountain. and Kings Dominion has a huge kids area already (including a Jr. woodie in Woodstock Express). have you not been to this park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUD06 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 have you not been to this park? Based on almost every one of his posts, I'd be surprised if he's been to any parks outside of Tampa, and even that one is pushing it. His title says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 adding a photo reference: here's a pic I took of Volcano while walking next to I305's track in July 2018. .they are literally right next to each other by I305's track turning around for a pic of SBNO Volcano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Jizzman Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 So I guess everyone is too lazy to use google maps? They're in the area but definitely not next to each other. They should use this opportunity to clean up the racing/sci fi/tribal/snowy mountain mish-mash going on at that side of the park. That area was kind of a shocker compared to how charming the other side of the park was, in my opinion. Flight of Fear says don't forget about me, fam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 ^ LOL.. it IS pretty forgetful, tho, with the MCBR bringing the ride almost to a full stop! but good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Unpopular opinion: The Flight of Fear coasters are awesome. The trains are dumb and annoying to get into but the ride itself is smooth, insanely disorienting and awesome. Yes, it's a clone but I sincerely don't care. The Flight of Fear rides are criminally underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Unpopular opinion: The Flight of Fear coasters are awesome. The trains are dumb and annoying to get into but the ride itself is smooth, insanely disorienting and awesome. Yes, it's a clone but I sincerely don't care. The Flight of Fear rides are criminally underrated. if they were run the same way the outdoor versions were? (Poltergeist & Jokers Jinx), I'd love it and agree with you. but having those to compare it to - and Poltergeist being at my "home" park, so getting to ride that a lot? it pales in comparison. but don't think your opinion on it is unpopular. . hell, if anything my not liking it much is the unpopular opinion. both times I've been to KD, it had long ass lines, and the GP seems to really like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 So I guess everyone is too lazy to use google maps? They're in the area but definitely not next to each other. They should use this opportunity to clean up the racing/sci fi/tribal/snowy mountain mish-mash going on at that side of the park. That area was kind of a shocker compared to how charming the other side of the park was, in my opinion. I agree. That area is awkward. I'm probably not thinking enough into it, but adding a decent mixture of flats and getting rid of the oddly themed areas would make this area really nice. CF could stick to what they do best, which is clean lines and minimal themeing. I prefer it this way. I'd rather have an area with less personality rather than an area with too many clashing themes. I'm sure KD has plans for this area well beyond my worthless ideas. On an unrelated note, how's KD's alcohol availability? When Emily and I visited several years ago I remember only being able to find one place that served beer. It was located somewhere on the Intimidator/FoF side of the park, IIRC. It was kind of a drab cafeteria restaurant area and you couldn't take the beers outside of the patio. I think they stopped serving pretty early. Emily specifically remembers three things about Kings Dominion. 1) Beer Man sucked. 2) i305 kicked her ass way too much. One and done for her. 3) She liked Volcano. None of these things increase my chances of her not throwing a pity party when I feel the urge to go back. We'll be in DC in May and she's not even considering it an option, especially over BGW being in reach. Looks like Food and Wine festival it is. I'm not mad about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 ^^Oh yeah, I'm just referring to the enthusiast community. For me, if a ride is a clone I don't really care if it's not the best version of that clone if it's still awesome. That said, I actually believe that it is because while it's nice that the midcourse doesn't kick on as much you're also racing through "outer space" in the dark and I love that. It makes it one of the most disorienting coasters out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 ^FoF is fun. Too many beers prior to riding is dangerous. Same with Verbolten's indoor section. Almost found out the hard way on both. Old school Premier launches are fun. Long live Mr. Freeze. RIP Chiller. I'd agree with those who have said something similar to Copperhead Strike being the most logical replacement for Volcano. That said, I actually think it's premature to talk about it. have you not been to this park? Based on almost every one of his posts, I'd be surprised if he's been to any parks outside of Tampa, and even that one is pushing it. His title says it all. For me, if a ride is a clone I don't really care if it's not the best version of that clone if it's still awesome. Prime example: B:TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Coaster Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I really like Flight of Fear (especially when basically every other ride closes for thunderstorms), but I do prefer the outdoor ones because of how the MCBR doesn't bring the train to a halt. This is still one of the better clones out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppedup Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I used Google Maps to look up the proximity of Intimidator 305 to Volcano. And I noticed someone has been messing with coaster names again. Intimidator 325 Also saw The Fury 325, The Millennium Force, Afterbrup (sic), and Invertino (KI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On an unrelated note, how's KD's alcohol availability? When Emily and I visited several years ago I remember only being able to find one place that served beer. It was located somewhere on the Intimidator/FoF side of the park, IIRC. It was kind of a drab cafeteria restaurant area and you couldn't take the beers outside of the patio. I think they stopped serving pretty early. It's inconsistent. Few employees at the park is ever capable of pouring a drink, reading a date of birth on any ID that's not a Virginia drivers license, entering anything with alcohol into the register or knowing what the alcohol policy is in terms of where you can take beer. At this point it's so consistently inconsistent that I think it's almost definitely a training problem. It's been this way for years. At Outer Hanks (which I think is what you're referring to) you can't leave the patio but meanwhile at Haunt they just bring out beer carts in the middle of the midway and let you take it wherever you want (including into queue lines). There's a place that serves beer to the left of the Eiffel tower and that's basically all they serve. We usually go there since all they serve is alcohol so the employee won't crawl up in the fetal position and cry like a standard KD employee when you order beer. PS: Do not visit that location if you're allergic to bee stings. The patio is literally infested with bees. For me, if a ride is a clone I don't really care if it's not the best version of that clone if it's still awesome. Prime example: B:TR Absolutely. We were at Magic Mountain last week and even though over the years we've probably been on the Great Adventure one almost 100 times and even though neither of us "needed the credit" there was no way in hell we were skipping it. If that ride wasn't a clone then enthusiasts would declare it one of the best rides in the park (even at Magic Mountain which is loaded with awesome coasters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 There's a little outdoor bar in Candy Apple Grove near Windseeker that serves cocktails, wine, and beer. KD has their own line of beer brewed by Center of the Universe Brewery in nearby Ashland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripleybl Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Here is the official article and story posted by Channel 8 news... I'm the guy in the striped orange shirt. www.wric.com/news/local-news/iconic-kings-dominion-volcano-roller-coaster-grounded-for-good/1773831978?fbclid=IwAR03g_ZmcGBx3mH0H_dSdXyt3AS8oS5x0trn-gAIzd--vSZB3iC1VCFagLQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Here is the official article and story posted by Channel 8 news... I'm the guy in the striped orange shirt. www.wric.com/news/local-news/iconic-kings-dominion-volcano-roller-coaster-grounded-for-good/1773831978?fbclid=IwAR03g_ZmcGBx3mH0H_dSdXyt3AS8oS5x0trn-gAIzd--vSZB3iC1VCFagLQ Pretty cool they spoke to you. . tho doesn't say why? do they just know around the office you're a coaster fan, and so talked to you about it? (they don't identify you via chyron, so wondering) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripleybl Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Here is the official article and story posted by Channel 8 news... I'm the guy in the striped orange shirt. www.wric.com/news/local-news/iconic-kings-dominion-volcano-roller-coaster-grounded-for-good/1773831978?fbclid=IwAR03g_ZmcGBx3mH0H_dSdXyt3AS8oS5x0trn-gAIzd--vSZB3iC1VCFagLQ Pretty cool they spoke to you. . tho doesn't say why? do they just know around the office you're a coaster fan, and so talked to you about it? (they don't identify you via chyron, so wondering) Yeah, the woman who did the story is friends with a lot of my friends on Facebook and they referred me to her. I don't think they gave me a title because I have never been in an official roller coaster club which I have always wanted to join. That being said, I am not the that credible of a source and more of a huge coaster fan (almost like GP status) being interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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