richwoodrocket Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Do you locals think the park will rename Ride of Steel back to Superman, now the Six Flags is in charge, or will they leave it as is? What have you heard, if anything? If they can use that to justify repainting it and adding a second train as a “new-for-2020” addition then yes I could totally see that happening. Otherwise I wouldn’t count on it. It’s like a pipe dream at this point but I’m still trying to have some faith that they’ll do something with these rides. Remembering back to when they did the new wraps on the viper trains, that was one of my favorite “little things” that they did that I wish they’d do to other rides too. Plus it’s six flags. I wouldn’t put it past them to spend $1-2 million on a new train and some TLC and call it new. Folks around here have wanted that for ages, it’s a perfect way to invest in the current infrastructure and claim there’s a new experience. New experience, aka the ride operating as Vekoma intended. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon127 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Lights, the park desperately needs new synchronized lighting packages on everything! Maybe itll boost attendence for the late nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 You should see Great Adventure at night. You would think that you’re walking around rural North Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk610 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I agree with the ops manager that infrastructure investments take time and money and do not happen overnight. My big question is has attendance this year warranted two train ops? If so, will they be ready for two train operations if it does? That will be the big tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I agree with the ops manager that infrastructure investments take time and money and do not happen overnight. My big question is has attendance this year warranted two train ops? If so, will they be ready for two train operations if it does? That will be the big tell Everything except ROS and Boomerang has two trains on site, Viper and Tantrum have 3, its just a matter of making the 2nd trains available. That Ops manager is slightly off, I know they ran a second train on Viper sometimes in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 You should see Great Adventure at night. You would think that you’re walking around rural North Korea. tl;dr: SFDL wont be getting lighting packages. Still wishing theyd light the Wheel again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Do you locals think the park will rename Ride of Steel back to Superman, now the Six Flags is in charge, or will they leave it as is? What have you heard, if anything? If they can use that to justify repainting it and adding a second train as a “new-for-2020” addition then yes I could totally see that happening. Otherwise I wouldn’t count on it. It’s like a pipe dream at this point but I’m still trying to have some faith that they’ll do something with these rides. Remembering back to when they did the new wraps on the viper trains, that was one of my favorite “little things” that they did that I wish they’d do to other rides too. Plus it’s six flags. I wouldn’t put it past them to spend $1-2 million on a new train and some TLC and call it new. Folks around here have wanted that for ages, it’s a perfect way to invest in the current infrastructure and claim there’s a new experience. New experience, aka the ride operating as Vekoma intended. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RoS retheme - featuring new paint, second train, some sort of effect that won’t last (like music or something), some sort of cut out things similar to Bizarro at SFNE and SFGAdv and suddenly it’s a new thing to market. Mind Eraser retheme - See SFNE 2018. It’s gonna happen eventually, I don’t think it’s all that crazy to consider for 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon127 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 You should see Great Adventure at night. You would think that you’re walking around rural North Korea. Yeah, but this isnt about whats realistic anymore. Its just a 927 page letter to Six Flags Santa clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWALL004 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 You should see Great Adventure at night. You would think that you’re walking around rural North Korea. tl;dr: SFDL wont be getting lighting packages. Still wishing theyd light the Wheel again though. That’s ridiculous not having an illuminated giant ferris wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Great Adventure let so many lights burn out on their Ferris wheel that they stopped lighting it for Holiday in the Park because it’s too ugly. I’m honestly not sure if they light it up at night any more during the rest of the year but if they do it looks like ass. To their credit, the chain’s new flat ride additions have often come with great lighting packages but going through and updating the lighting on older rides is not something that they care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 You should see Great Adventure at night. You would think that you’re walking around rural North Korea. Yeah, but this isnt about whats realistic anymore. Its just a 927 page letter to Six Flags Santa clause. Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 ^ Could it be an individual park thing or have you noticed it throughout the chain? SFDL is the only SF park ive been to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 You should see Great Adventure at night. You would think that you’re walking around rural North Korea. Yeah, but this isnt about whats realistic anymore. Its just a 927 page letter to Six Flags Santa clause. Your point? Aside from this thread, TPR generally likes to deal in reality. I can't tell people not to post crazy things but nobody should be surprised when crazy, unrealistic expectations are treated as such either. I can't speak for TPR, but this is how the "Why can't people just voice their crazy hopes and dreams without anyone responding with a dose of reality?" fantasy usually goes around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) DaRieN lAkEs mAINtenANce iS tOo ChEap aNd laZy tO pAiNt Edited August 6, 2019 by Haymaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldikus Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I'm especially excited to find out the new-for-2020 additions for this park. This thread should be a real treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryonisys Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I just remember last year when we found out SkyScreamer was replacing Twister and everyone was up in arms about a waterfall by the twister sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAmericanKnight Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I just remember last year when we found out SkyScreamer was replacing Twister and everyone was up in arms about a waterfall by the twister sign LOL I remember that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelwee Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 ^Could it be an individual park thing or have you noticed it throughout the chain? SFDL is the only SF park ive been to. Outside of Magic Mountain (my home park), I've only visited Discovery Kingdom. Aesthetics are not a priority at either park. Burnt out light bulbs, faded paint on the coasters, dead plants, ads everywhere, etc. Judging by people's comments on the other parks, this seems to be chain-wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 DaRieN lAkEs mAINtenANce iS tOo ChEap aNd laZy tO pAiNt Darien Lake’s Maintenance is by no means too cheap to paint. It’s not their choice what funds are sent where. The “big issue” is that one of their repaint projects was abruptly cancelled (or at least indefinitely put on hold) midway through its completion leaving Mind Eraser basically to rust away as most of the paint was sand blasted partially to allow for new paint to be applied to it, and as a result it’s terribly noticeable that the ride’s “refresh” was halted. In all reality the park doesn’t “desperately” need anything to be repainted. However. The common grumblings I’ve heard from park guests when it comes up (for whatever reason) have been the following: - 1 train operation - paint on Ride of Steel - Lights on the wheel Darien Lake has actually been really great at painting their rides fairly regularly up until 2015. Viper and Boomerang were both completely redone and still look great, they repainted the main entrance and a bunch of the buildings have been redone recently as well. What was done on Mind Eraser looks nice too and in all honesty if they wouldn’t have started the project, they may not have needed to as the faded pink/sea foam green color scheme looked just fine (see: Xcelerator). From what I remember, they didn’t care to paint RoS due to cost and the fact that most of the ride isn’t closely visible to park guests so it wasn’t a huge deal in the first place. Sure, the Viper station could use some love, and yes, it would be nice to have both of the coasters that haven’t gotten paint jobs redone, but as I’ve said in the past several times, I just don’t see them doing that if they can’t market it. Same thing with the second train for RoS. They very likely won’t purchase a new train without some sort of justification. Doing something like a re-theme could be that marketable justification that’s needed. And that isn’t out of the realm of realism or possibility as it has happened before in the chain and really it’s much more realistic (and likely cheaper) than a brand new multi launch record breaker that most everyone knows the park isn’t going to get (no comment on the B&M idea... but you get the point). Maverick doesn’t really need to be repainted, does it? It’s got that rustic worn out vibe that fits the old west theme. Millennium Force, Raptor, Magnum and Top Thrill Dragster are all such well known and well photographed machines that made sense for a park like Cedar Point to want to keep them into a nice and shiny state. If they saw it necessary I’m sure they’d hop on painting Maverick too, but so far that hasn’t been the case, and in a way the same applies to RoS and Mind Eraser at Darien Lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just edited and added Wicked Twister, its supports look like sections of ME. My whole point after visiting 3 parks this year is that only one looked regularly painted and fresh, and that was BGW (which they are noted for). At Hersheypark I saw a lot of the same "issues" that this thread has with DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsolmagno Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just edited and added Wicked Twister, its supports look like sections of ME. My whole point after visiting 3 parks this year is that only one looked regularly painted and fresh, and that was BGW (which they are noted for). At Hersheypark I saw a lot of the same "issues" that this thread has with DL. I'm at Canada's Wonderland and Behemoth is starting to look pretty faded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjr19 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I’ll give you a good justification for purchasing a second train for RoS: The concert days where the line gets to the point where it is well over an hour. An 80 minute wait because the park is too freakin cheap to buy a second train like how any other park would for a hyper coaster, is absolutely unacceptable by all means. And as for CP, Maverick looks better faded, actually fits the western area’s look a lot better. Wicked Twister on the other hand, it’s a forgotten about ride at the park, nobody cares enough to notice paint on that thing. Ride of Steel is the park’s star attraction and Mind Eraser is one of Darien’s most well known attractions. You don’t see most parks letting their star attraction look like crap, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Yes. MF was just repainted recently for the first time. Same with TTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Do any SF parks have a S&S power swing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwoodrocket Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Do any SF parks have a S&S power swing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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