vacoaster09 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 ^as i was writing that... i was saying to myself... "well they still have those headrest on bizarro/superman" .... one can wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschu Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 SFNE seemed to have been trying to improve the capacity of the ride with these trains as the main goal but ended up detracting from the ride experience. That's what they keep saying but this train has exactly the same amount of seats as the old train. It has one less belt but does that really make that big of a difference? It doesn't seem like it when you're waiting in line for it. hopefully, SFNE will address this issue for one of their most popular coasters. Did you forget what park you we're talking about here? People got confused because of the seats. The loading process does go faster without the winged seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetrial3141592 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 As far as I can tell, the reason for Goliath's roughness lies in the train design. The rolling stock looks ill-equipped to handle any lateral or axial rotation, leaving that to the actual seat dampers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 As far as I can tell, the reason for Goliath's roughness lies in the train design. The rolling stock looks ill-equipped to handle any lateral or axial rotation, leaving that to the actual seat dampers. Try riding in an odd numbered row. IE: 1,3,5 you will be amazed at the difference in how smooth the coaster is compared to even numbered rows IE: 2,4,6. It has to do with how the suspension of the trains work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 How much space is there between rows in these trains? On B&M inverts I can barely touch the row ahead if I stretch my legs while on GIBs the back of the car in front is really really close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camthedominator Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 To be honest, I think they should have added some sort of shock absorbing system for the lateral movement (some for the vertical axis wouldn't hurt). Also, why didn't they try consulting B&M about some new trains. They managed to pull it off for Steel Dragon 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 To be honest, I think they should have added some sort of shock absorbing system for the lateral movement (some for the vertical axis wouldn't hurt). Also, why didn't they try consulting B&M about some new trains. They managed to pull it off for Steel Dragon 2000. Maybe it's because Maryland is closer than Switzerland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camthedominator Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 That doesn't mean they have to manufacture them in Switzerland. If I'm not mistakes they have a plant in Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Also, why didn't they try consulting B&M about some new trains. They managed to pull it off for Steel Dragon 2000. Steel Dragon was perfectly fine running ride when B&M came in and redid the trains, there was basically no risk involved. The GIB have a horrible track record and Vekoma could barely make them work, I don't think B&M would have wanted to touch it with a stick if asked. That doesn't mean they have to manufacture them in Switzerland. If I'm not mistakes they have a plant in Ohio. B&M manufactures all their trains in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmillenia94 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Also, why didn't they try consulting B&M about some new trains. They managed to pull it off for Steel Dragon 2000. Steel Dragon was perfectly fine running ride when B&M came in and redid the trains, there was basically no risk involved. The GIB have a horrible track record and Vekoma could barely make them work, I don't think B&M would have wanted to touch it with a stick if asked. False.. the track is as smooth as a B&M, or was with the old trains. The new trains the issue is that the seats are attached directly between the wheels instead of between them like before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camthedominator Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Also, I just realized the flaw in my comment. Vekoma has a nasty habit of putting the wheel assembly inside the track rather than outside. B&M would have to completely re engineer their trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 False.. the track is as smooth as a B&M, or was with the old trains. The new trains the issue is that the seats are attached directly between the wheels instead of between them like before. Why are you quoting me? How does you post have anything to do with mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camthedominator Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 By the way, I have noticed that in the past couple of years, Intamin has not opened a new hyper or giga coaster. To me, this upsetting due to the fact that I'm a big time Intamin fan-boy. I am just wondering why this is. They make great coasters that win awards (and not to mention break records). Also, they are generally pretty smooth and offer a fantastic ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterchitchat Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 By the way, I have noticed that in the past couple of years, Intamin has not opened a new hyper or giga coaster. To me, this upsetting due to the fact that I'm a big time Intamin fan-boy. I am just wondering why this is. They make great coasters that win awards (and not to mention break records). Also, they are generally pretty smooth and offer a fantastic ride. It's the fact that they are maintenance night-mares for parks. I like Intamin the most. I think the parks would just have a reliable B&M over a white-knuckled Intamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Mutts Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 By the way, I have noticed that in the past couple of years, Intamin has not opened a new hyper or giga coaster. To me, this upsetting due to the fact that I'm a big time Intamin fan-boy. I am just wondering why this is. They make great coasters that win awards (and not to mention break records). Also, they are generally pretty smooth and offer a fantastic ride. Skyrush was two years ago, therefore it falls into the couple (2-3) years ago category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camthedominator Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Well, the truth of the matter is that getting an Intamin will likely bring in some amount of popularity. Also, I think B&M's are extremely predictable. They all have the same style about them. Intamins are far less similar and also, Skyrush is pretty reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Taken at the park today Wicked Cyclone lift hill is complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Thanks for the photos Larry! I will be at sfne in two weeks and will take photos of progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysairtime14 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The degree of drop on the turn around to the lift hill is a lot steeper than the original. But what isn't steeper than the original on this thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camthedominator Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ummm... nothing except the station. By the way, is it true that zombies will go on Bizarro with you once in a while ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoulderDash Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Feast your eyes on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Holy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Name Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Feast your eyes on this! My reaction to that drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scbt Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 B-but what will happen when the wheels hit those bolts. /s On a more serious note, that drop looks like it's going to be as incredible as we have come to expect from RMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 WOW! That drop looks amazing, At least from this view! I am sure this will be yet another breathtaking amazing RMC creation! I can not wait to see more of this construction progress!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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