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. It'll probably be the best coaster in Florida: that's OK with me.

 

Mako will be fun, it will be a great hit for SeaWorld, but Kumba will still be the best coaster in Florida.

 

This. Kumba and Montu are both elite coasters.

 

I don't understand the whole more marketable thing. It's Orlando. No offense to Intamin but B&M is more reliable then Intamin and usually has more capacity. Is it safe? Yes but people come anyway. Tourists just see new and tallest in Orlando

 

This. If it turns out better and isn't Thunder Dolphin, that means what? The bulk of the good work Mako needs to do is in year one drawing people, and the best way it can draw people is by reliably working and providing a quality ride. It'll probably be the best coaster in Florida: that's OK with me.

No dude, I talked to so many people that totally said "to hell with SWO" the second they found out Mako was a B&M. My next door neighbor got tickets for the whole family in anticipation of Mako being a Not B&M (Not B&M is his favorite manufacturer by far), so when he found out that this wasn't the case, he walked around looking for homeless people to give the tickets to but they wouldn't take them; not even as fuel for their garbage fires when it gets cold. One of them even chased him off with a shopping cart. My other neighbor is a PETA member and her favorite movies are Free Willy, Free Willy 3, and Blackfish (she tried to run me over once after she found out that I had a pet goldfish when I was like 8). She still loved Seaworld and went there once a month. Until Mako was a B&M.

 

So really, the only thing SWO is marketing by Mako being a B&M is a 10+ hour road trip to the nearest Intamin Hyper 750 miles away, something that every reasonable tourist in Orlando will do the moment they walk up to SWO's gates and see that Mako is a B&M.

 

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Does anyone know how well Seaworld is doing in terms of money? I could imagine they're doing pretty good, due to the fact they can buy a heavily themed B&M hyper, facelift sharks underwater grill, facelift shark encounters (or whatever it is called), and create a entirely new themed land. And then they're also still doing those rescue operations, and there's the resrot, and the new dark ride.

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IIRC, every park they own is making money except for SeaWorld San Antonio (they say due to the bad weather this year) and SeaWorld San Diego (because of the crazy Blackfish backlash there). The Busch parks in particular are doing very well, as are Discovery Cove and Aquatica.

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I don't have the numbers in front of me so I may be wrong here but seems like I remember reading about SeaWorld Orlando's profit loss and thinking it sounded strange because the profit loss was slightly greater in magnitude than the attendance decrease. I realize that those two figures don't tell the entire story of the situation financially but I was expecting the numbers to be more comparable than they were in the report that I read.

 

Anyways, I bought an annual pass last December and have probably been 5 or 6 times this year, and every time it has felt like there is a good crowd and every One Ocean show I've been to has been full. So the park may not be doing as well as it once was but I think they're still doing okay.

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I don't have the numbers in front of me so I may be wrong here but seems like I remember reading about SeaWorld Orlando's profit loss and thinking it sounded strange because the profit loss was slightly greater in magnitude than the attendance decrease. I realize that those two figures don't tell the entire story of the situation financially but I was expecting the numbers to be more comparable than they were in the report that I read.

 

Anyways, I bought an annual pass last December and have probably been 5 or 6 times this year, and every time it has felt like there is a good crowd and every One Ocean show I've been to has been full. So the park may not be doing as well as it once was but I think they're still doing okay.

 

This is from their most recent quarterly update (first of November). California and Texas were the problem for the summer, while Florida parks and their other parks saw increases in attendance.

 

- Total revenue per capita increased by 0.6% to $59.36 in the third quarter of 2015 compared to $58.99 in the third quarter of 2014.

- Attendance for the quarter decreased slightly by 0.4% as a result of a decline in California and Texas. The decline at these two locations was largely offset by an increase in attendance at the Company's other park locations due to an improvement in demand, related to an increase in promotional offerings, and a favorable operating schedule resulting from the later timing of Labor Day in 2015.

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No dude, I talked to so many people that totally said "to hell with SWO" the second they found out Mako was a B&M. My next door neighbor got tickets for the whole family in anticipation of Mako being a Not B&M (Not B&M is his favorite manufacturer by far), so when he found out that this wasn't the case, he walked around looking for homeless people to give the tickets to but they wouldn't take them; not even as fuel for their garbage fires when it gets cold. One of them even chased him off with a shopping cart. My other neighbor is a PETA member and her favorite movies are Free Willy, Free Willy 3, and Blackfish (she tried to run me over once after she found out that I had a pet goldfish when I was like 8). She still loved Seaworld and went there once a month. Until Mako was a B&M.

 

So really, the only thing SWO is marketing by Mako being a B&M is a 10+ hour road trip to the nearest Intamin Hyper 750 miles away, something that every reasonable tourist in Orlando will do the moment they walk up to SWO's gates and see that Mako is a B&M.

 

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Is it me or is Sea World really bad at announcing things? I am more confused about their strategy now than I was before.

 

SWSD - no more stadium whale shows and maybe a hotel

SWO - whale stadium show (for now at least), maybe a hotel, maybe a truck ride/dark ride sometime in the future?

SWSA - whale stadium show to stay (for now at least), maybe a roller coaster sometime in the future?

 

Other than the show leaving SWSD is any of this stuff actually official? They basically showed a bunch of pictures and said "this is the land we have to build stuff on, someday we might do that." I'm sure they have more detailed plans than they are letting the public know about but seriously what kind of announcement is that? Looks like they just wanted "Sea World" and "expansion" to be in the news.

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^Don't forget Busch Gardens Williamsburg's odd "New ride? What new ride?" approach to Tempesto.

 

I'm not sure what's going on with SeaWorld's announcements. They all seem rather disjointed, but I'm intrigued by the new coasters and dark rides.

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I thought the announcement for Mako and Cobra's Curse went okay earlier this summer, but yeah some of the other have been a bit strange. I'm wouldn't be surprised to see some joint marketing promoting 2 park annual passes locally for the 2 attractions. It always amazes me how many non-theme park people I know in Florida (and from other places) don't realize SeaWorld and Busch Gardens are owned by the same company considering how great of a value a 2 park pass is compared to the other options in town. Then again maybe the folks at SW/BGT like keeping that below the radar for some reason.

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I thought the announcement for Mako and Cobra's Curse went okay earlier this summer, but yeah some of the other have been a bit strange. I'm wouldn't be surprised to see some joint marketing promoting 2 park annual passes locally for the 2 attractions. It always amazes me how many non-theme park people I know in Florida (and from other places) don't realize SeaWorld and Busch Gardens are owned by the same company considering how great of a value a 2 park pass is compared to the other options in town. Then again maybe the folks at SW/BGT like keeping that below the radar for some reason.

 

I agree that the Cobra's Curse/Mako announcements were OK; at least, they had a firmer grasp on what they were actually announcing.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Yesterday SeaWorld Orlando hosted Theme Park Review for a media preview of the first night of their annual SeaWorld's Christmas Celebration event. Returning this year were the popular Winter Wonderland on Ice and O Wondrous Night shows, along with The Polar Express overlay for the Wild Arctic simulator ride. The park has been fully dressed in holiday lights and decor, and pop-up entertainment offerings help to change the park's normal atmosphere to fit the spirit of the season. The Christmas Village has also returned to offer a great corridor for holiday food and beverages for guests to enjoy during their holiday visit.

 

SeaWorld continues to do an incredible job in making the holiday season their own, and this year's event once again exemplifies the calibre of entertainment and decor that SeaWorld has long been known for many years. Next year will see the introduction of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and the affiliated characters from the classic stop-motion animation TV special throughout SeaWorld Parks & Resort parks, so it can be expected that next year's Christmas Celebration will feature this property in unique ways... But with so many great things to enjoy this year, there's a lot to look forward to with this added property in SeaWorld's arsenal!

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SeaWorld welcomed us with an animal ambassador...

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Over at The Polar Express, we were entertained by the Conductors, singing a cappella renditions of classic holiday songs.

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The Polar Express is a wonderful overlay of the Wild Arctic simulator and a great overview of the film, both for fans and first-timers.

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The entire Wild Arctic queue and loading station experience is updated to immerse guests in the story of The Polar Express.

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This way to the North Pole!

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Base Station Wild Arctic looks very different...

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Guests exit The Polar Express in Santa Town, and fortunately its most famous resident is present to meet guests in person!

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Throughout the park, wonderful holiday lighting has been added to give the park a special nighttime glow.

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Looks so nice!

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Shamu's Happy Harbor has been given unique holiday lighting for the Christmas Celebration.

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The newest addition to SeaWorld Orlando, Mama's Pretzel Kitchen has received some holiday lighting as well...

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The park really looks incredible when lit up at night.

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Construction for Mako brings with it some walled off areas near Shark Encounter, but SeaWorld has even dressed up these walls with lighting to keep up the holiday spirit!

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The Mako brake run is the first segment of the ride to go vertical...

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The Sea of Trees in the SeaWorld Orlando harbor is incredible!

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Winter Wonderland on Ice is an incredible ice skating show set to the tune of classic holiday music. The experience is top notch!

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Seems to be very similar to Knoebels' Traveling Taco...

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These skillets look incredible!

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The Christmas Village features a miniature town complete with working trains!

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Shame Christmas Miracles is a unique holiday twist on the classic Shamu show.

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These behaviors never cease to amaze!

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This show is definitely worth watching!

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Nothing says "Happy Holidays" like a unique pretzel from Mama's Pretzel Kitchen.

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The Waterfront experiences period snow flurries throughout the evening...

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Incredible movements by the killer whales...

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Incredible!

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Great pictures, thanks for sharing! SeaWorld looks fantastic with all the lights and decorations.

 

I'm a bit curious about the Polar Express layover for Wild Arctic. I like simulator rides (for example I LOVE Star Tours), but I absolutely hated Wild Arctic, and couldn't wait for the ride to be over. It just made me more dizzy than I've ever been on one of these rides. How does the Polar Express layover compare to the original ride experience?

 

 

#ISTANDWITHSEAWORLD

 

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Great pictures, thanks for sharing! SeaWorld looks fantastic with all the lights and decorations.

 

I'm a bit curious about the Polar Express layover for Wild Arctic. I like simulator rides (for example I LOVE Star Tours), but I absolutely hated Wild Arctic, and couldn't wait for the ride to be over. It just made me more dizzy than I've ever been on one of these rides. How does the Polar Express layover compare to the original ride experience?

 

 

The Polar Express is DRASTICALLY less intense than Wild Arctic. The latter takes the capabilities of the simulator to the extreme and tries to throw you out of your seat, with a choppy, potato-quality video. The former is a nice family ride with some moments of completely no motion and follows the general story of the movie.

 

And during the polar express there are carolers outside singing to you and Santa taking pictures. It's way better all around.

 

Seaworld has the best Christmas entertainment of any park in Central Florida. It's very cheesy and makes me nostalgic for when I was growing up and I love it.

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I am looking into buying tickets to attend the week after Thanksgiving. A couple years ago when I went you could get a second day within a week. Also on the Tickets at work site I notice it says when leaving the park for $15 I could get a second day. Do all tickets purchased qualify for a second day within a week for cheap? I am asking because their Blue Friday sale might have a better deal than tickets at work site but I want to get the second day for cheap. Many tips or advice.

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The deal for individual tickets on Blue Friday is Buy one get one free. I have no clue if those tickets would then be valid when physically at the park for any second day admission deal.

 

http://www.iloveseaworld.com/seaworld-orlando-blue-friday-deals-revealed/?jdfwkey=zbsuu2

 

Additionally, a Seaworld FUN Card (99 dollars+tax) includes unlimited 2015 calendar year visits to Seaworld, parking not included. It is the defacto buy one day get the second free and more deal now.

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