BDG Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 (edited) Hey everybody! This thread is simple! Rather than having a million little threads about everything that goes on at Tripsdrill, this thread is designed to consolidate it all into one user-friendly thread. Feel free to use it to post updates, trip reports, questions, comments, and of course, general discussion. For pictures and videos of the park as well as past updates, see TPR's Park Index Page. Official Park Website Below are some links to past updates from the park, you may be interested in. Enjoy! --Robb _____________________________________________________ 2007 Oct 9th, 2007 - Mammut, a new wooden coaster announced! (See Below) Oct 13th, 2007 - Layout and renderings of Mammut! Dec 18th, 2007 - Construction pic of the first drop 2008 Jan 9th, 2008 - Construction pics from the park Feb 5th, 2008 - More construction Pics 2010 Mar 15th, 2010 - Tripsdrill focuses on nature with the 2010 season 2012 October 22nd, 2012 - Park is adding a launched coaster with a dark ride section 2013 May 30th, 2013 - Construction tour of Karacho 2016 December 1st, 2016 - SkyFly announced for 2017 2018 April 26th, 2018 - New coasters planned for 2019 and 2020 seasons _____________________________________________________ Original Post: German for "The Mammoth". (both the animal and the tree (sequoia) have been an inspiration for the name, because of their impressive size) • height: 30m / 98.4 ft • length: 860m / 2821.5 ft • top speed: 90 kph / 56 mph • includes a tunnel and trenches The ride has been designed by the Werner Stengel bureau and will be built by Cordes GmbH, the company responsible for the prefabricated track as well as general construction of Colossos, Balder, El Toro and the roller coaster under construction at Everland, Korea. This one (Mammut) will have a typical laminated track though...altough it will have some modern technology applied here and there. Rolling stock by Gerstlauer. The ride will also have a splinkler system to keep it flexible in the hot summer months. The sequoia tree (also known as mammoth tree) will be the main theme of the ride, with the train representing a sawmill blade gone loose, the station and surroundings a saw mill. A new themed area will be built around the ride, with a total area of 2 ha (roughly 5 acres), but all of that won't be completed until 2010. Total cost of 6 million euro. The roller coaster is opening March 10, 2008. Park directors Helmut, Roland and Dieter Fischer. Edited May 14, 2020 by SharkTums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 This is awesome news. Another "Intamin woodie" on the 2008 Europe trip! Let's just hope the G-trains don't ruin it. I hope that Gerstlauer has learned how to make wooden coaster trains that don't suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I'd be lying if I said I was only a little excited about this. Bring on next summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas2 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Just to be sure: Intamin has nothing do to with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 It's possible Intamin does not have exclusive rights to the pre-fab track system. Werner Stengel holds the patents and Holzbau Cordes fabricates the track; Intamin just developed the trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olimonn Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Only Stengel filed the patent, there is absolutely no reason for Intamin to be specifically bound to this particular type of coaster except a good relationship between Stengel and Intamin, and some exclusive facilities Intamin offers, such as their trains, Cable Lift system etc. And since Tripsdrill has a good commercial relationship with Gerstlauer, and probably doesn't care about a cable lift system, or fart coaster trains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Since many manufacturers work with Stengel for their design, I wonder if they will make this track system available to anyone interested (new design or re-tracking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyyyper Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Does anybody have anything on the layout already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 So is this a pre-fab coaster like El Toro and Balder? Just because the track is coming from the same company doesn't mean it's the same type of track system. Anyone know for sure? --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I think it's safe to assume that whatever the specifics are of the track system it will be made from precision milled laminated lumber (that's what Holzbau Cordes specializes in) and not boards and nails. I think using prefab track on wooden coasters is such a good idea that there's no reason other manufacturers won't start using this technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankees15 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I sure hope this coaster is good. It would be nice to see another pre-fabricated wood coaster built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 **Elissa just got 34 times more excited for the Europe Trip!** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I think using prefab track on wooden coasters is such a good idea that there's no reason other manufacturers won't start using this technology. I can only imagine there has got to be a large amount of money to be made if a company can start offering "We will re-track your traditional woodie, with a pre-fab track system." Parks at that point parks really COULD re-market that ride. Can you IMAGINE what a ride like GhostRider would be like if they re-tracked with that type of system? I do wonder, are any US based companies researching making woodies with this type of system. At least it can be an option that they offer. GCI? TGG? You guys even thinking about it? --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIDelirium Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Maybe prefab track could save SOB. Better with the G-trains, but the tracking still sucks. Anyway... it sure looks like prefab track in the photo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Dragon 1988 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I've really liked everything I've seen from Tripsdrill since seeing pic.s from Mini-Europe this year. This coaster looks like a great addition for the little German park. I was hoping they got the rumored GCI, but this should be even better as I think GCI is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDG Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 I can only imagine there has got to be a large amount of money to be made if a company can start offering "We will re-track your traditional woodie, with a pre-fab track system." If for example Magic Mountain wants prefab track for Colossus, all they have to do is contact the Stengel bureau. The reason we haven't seen it yet is the cost. Especially for older rides of which no blueprints are left. However, in my opinion, a park can transform a crappy ride into something so awesome they can advertise it as something brand new. Mean Streak is the perfect candidate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteocrepaldi Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Sounds great! I can't wait to know more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I can only imagine there has got to be a large amount of money to be made if a company can start offering "We will re-track your traditional woodie, with a pre-fab track system." If for example Magic Mountain wants prefab track for Colossus, all they have to do is contact the Stengel bureau. The reason we haven't seen it yet is the cost. Especially for older rides of which no blueprints are left. However, in my opinion, a park can transform a crappy ride into something so awesome they can advertise it as something brand new. Mean Streak is the perfect candidate... I can imagine the cost of getting that done is one fo the major sticking points. Putting a new track down might mean anything to adding additional supports, a new ride control system, new brakes, maybe even new trains if warranted. Of course it's never been done as yet so that's all up in the air. But the idea of putting what is proven to be a superb running surface on rides which could really use it is a great one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Mini Europe just got that little bit better This looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfie Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 DUDE! That kid in the front row of the coaster on the billboard has the same shirt as me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattuchili Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Great news. Germany definitely need more woodie´s. That is really a big plus for the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitsch transporter Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 It seems that "Mammut" will NOT have the "Plug ´n Play"-Track! The price tag for the ride is a bit too moderate to have Gerstlauer build new trains. I also don´t think that retrofitting existing rides with the new track style would be an efficient way to better a ride. The new track would have to fit exactly on the existing structure. With wooden rides, this is close to impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 It seems that "Mammut" will NOT have the "Plug ´n Play"-Track! The price tag for the ride is a bit too moderate to have Gerstlauer build new trains. No it's not. Last time I checked 6 million Euros is about $8.5 million. Balder cost about $9 million and this ride is 700 feet less of track. Where are you getting your information at because it sounds like you are coming across as stating facts, but my guess is just your own opinions based on who knows what. --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitsch transporter Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 My information is received from the german press release, the press conference and from some people who are usually well informed. Its nothing behind the scenes. The 6 million Euro are the total investment the park will spend on the coaster AND a new, surrounding area which will be finished by 2010. All available info now indicates that the ride will not use the lamintated track found on the three Intamin woodies. Apparently Holzbau Cordes will use a new/different/"advanced" fabrication. What this will be, was not talked about. I don´t know if "advanced" (which roughly translates the word that was used) stands for a better, or maybe a simpler (cheaper) way to produce the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axman Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Sounds like a lot of fun. I just hope it dosen't end up with "Twisted Twin" trains. *Prays that Mammoth with be equiped with next gen. G-Trains* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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