Scaparri Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 ^The trims on Raging Bull definitely kill the ride. And I can only imagine how insanely awesome Goliath at SFOG would be if it's trims were turned off. Despite this though, I don't think Behemoth was designed to have trims slow it down. I really think they are just an "in case." We'll see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 ^Every B&M that I've been on that has trim brakes, have not been used. Now of course I don't know about everyone else, maybe they've ridden a B&M where the trims do kill the ride. As Scott mentioned, Raging Bull is the example of bad trims. (I'm not sure of another B&M that has the uphill trims) The trims on Bull grab hard as you're going uphill, making the train crawl over a airtime hill that should be awesome. When you hit it most of the people on the train let out an "Awwww... ". That's what most of us are worried about. These trims on Behemoth are the same sort of uphill trims used on Raging Bull. So hopefully they aren't used, or used lightly. If they're set to grab hard, then that will hinder the ride. But this is something we don't really know until we ride it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastercrazed49 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Also there are multiple ones, not just one the whole course. If they are all on hard the ride will be one big waist of steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas2 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 ^Every B&M that I've been on that has trim brakes, have not been used. Now of course I don't know about everyone else, maybe they've ridden a B&M where the trims do kill the ride. As Scott mentioned, Raging Bull is the example of bad trims. (I'm not sure of another B&M that has the uphill trims) Silver Star also has uphill brakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankees15 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 ^Apollo's Chariot also has uphill trims, but they really don't affect the ride that much. There is still nice air on the top of the hill. Nitro has trims in the valley's before and after the third hill, but these trims only "kiss" the train. You can not tell a difference in speed. This is what I am hoping Behemoth's trims will be like if they are used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP_RULES Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 With Behemoth's close proximity to the water park, one can't help but think back to Steel Dragon 2000... Speaking of B&Ms with trims, I can't think of one I've ridden that the trims ruined it. The trims on Mantis's first hill actually SAVE that ride, I think the forces would be very harsh without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 With Behemoth's close proximity to the water park, one can't help but think back to Steel Dragon 2000... It's close, but does not pass over any part of the water park. The closest it comes is when it passes about 50 feet behind the back of the wave pool during the 2nd hill portion. The entire ride is outside the park. One of the parks' wooden coasters Minebuster goes directly through the water park. In fact they even reprofiled some of it's hills to fit in passenger bridges to/from the two sections of the water park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoasterkid Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 ^ Please don't remind us of the butchering of Minebuster. It used to be a really decent ride (or atleast seemed that way the first year or two I rode it...pre me being a coaster enthusiast) but now I just avoid it. The trims on Raging Bull DEFINITELY killed the ride. IF the trims are used to the same extent on Behemoth that they were on Bull then this ride will be quite the let down. I won't pass any judgement on it though until I've gotten the chance to ride it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypotato Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 ^ The last time I rode Minebuster was for Hallowe'en Haunt or FearFest or whatever it is they call it now. It was actually fairly decent, and not that rough. I was very surprised and impressed that I didn't break a vertebrae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 ^ It was very smooth last year. I believe they retracked that second half of the outwards portion. (the part which was so brutal the year before). Now it's smooth, but going. Roughness I can handle. It was them flattening the two wicked air time hills that killed it. Well, that and when they removed the buzz bars for those typical orange lap bars. Buzz bars can make an average ride crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 http://esi.ctv.ca/datafeed/urlgen2.aspx?vid=32845 News report on my favourite ride of all time, Behemoth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 News report on my favourite ride of all time, Behemoth. So your favorite ride of all time is a ride which hasn't even run yet? Don't set your expectations so high that it has no chance of matching them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 News report on my favourite ride of all time, Behemoth. So your favorite ride of all time is a ride which hasn't even run yet? Don't set your expectations so high that it has no chance of matching them. The only roller coasters I have been on are at CW. Obviously Behemoth is going to be the best....... PS: For people that may possibly be having trouble with the video, I'm uploading it to an alternative source. Link will be posted soon. EDIT: Here's the alternative video link: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHyl5NLLaU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandluke Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Haha, that reporter sounded like a typical member of the GP during the animations (calling the camelback the lift hill and subsequent decline the 75-degree drop, the "big slow down", etc). Not that I expected him to be as knowledgeable as the members on here, but it still makes me smile when an "Average Joe" takes me on a run-through of a coaster. Impressive, that B&M constructer has pieced together 14 other coasters...I can't help but wonder which ones and if this is indeed his largest undertaking yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The only roller coasters I have been on are at CW. Obviously Behemoth is going to be the best....... Ok, that changes it quite a bit. You need to get out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The only roller coasters I have been on are at CW. Obviously Behemoth is going to be the best....... Ok, that changes it quite a bit. You need to get out more. Or I don't like America . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 ^Many people don't like America, you should still get out of Canada's Wonderland!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 ^Many people don't like America, you should still get out of Canada's Wonderland!!! True . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haux Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 They're still saying it's got a 75-degree drop. Wasn't that incorrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 They're still saying it's got a 75-degree drop. Wasn't that incorrect? No. It was supposed to be 85 in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LcHg5265 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I love the touch of the "Paramount's Canadas Wonderland" title in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I love the touch of the "Paramount's Canadas Wonderland" title in the video. Yeah I know. As far as I know, signs at the park are still not changed. This probably led them to believe that it's still under Paramount power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yeah I know. As far as I know, signs at the park are still not changed. This probably led them to believe that it's still under Paramount power. They could remove all sings and people are going to still think it's Paramount. Hell, people STILL believe that the park is moving to Woodstock. One of my co-workers a couple weeks ago asked me if I knew anything about the Transformers roller coaster that Paramount was building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yeah I know. As far as I know, signs at the park are still not changed. This probably led them to believe that it's still under Paramount power. They could remove all sings and people are going to still think it's Paramount. Hell, people STILL believe that the park is moving to Woodstock. One of my co-workers a couple weeks ago asked me if I knew anything about the Transformers roller coaster that Paramount was building. LOL! It's alright if they remove the signs. But if they don't, people will still think it's Paramount and it will just take longer for people to realize and get used to the fact that the name has changed. People who think that they're going to lift up an entire theme park and relocate it, are plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris182_2000 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I watch the construction of this ride anytime I go by the park. I can't wait until I can ride it. It's about time something good came to Wonderland. I'm glad Cedar Fairs took over, they know what they're doing alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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