SheiKra to acquire Floorless Trains?

[willski]

If they were to get floorless trains, they would be 8 across, not 10. 10 across would extend over the station platform.

[dandaman]

SheiKra already feels "floorless" enough to me since the seats are tilted back. Although no floor on that first drop has to be freaky.

 

Like you, I think it's "floorless" enough as is. I'm sure it's not a simple matter of chopping the front bar off the trains, but that alone would make for a more terrifying ride.

[Scaparri]

Yeah, this seems really ridiculous. I remember seeing a price tag of about $300,000 per train when Oblivion was built. Unless they can modify the trains they already have, it just seems like it's going to be a huge waste for something that will be so insignificant. I love floorless coasters, but it really doesn't matter unless you are in the front row, and it's already been mentioned, but Sheikra is floorless enough.

[TPDave]

Having only ridden one Dive machine (Oblivion) i can't see the appeal of floorless trains that much, but what could floorless trains take away from the ride? Nothing. So let BGT have their fun and close it for ages to fit the station floor etc. the ride experience won't be changed will it?

 

Coaster sim fan - It is a lot easier to put new trains onto a coaster and change the station floor than to change the track. To change the track, all pathways near the area would need to be changed and the blocks might hjave to be moved too, but a roll on the edge of those trains would be cool!

 

Oblivions trains were £180,000 each (i don't know that in dollars, sorry!) but thats because the ride was new and a lot of extra work had to go into the design, testing etc. of them. At least thats what i was lead to believe.

 

And just to repeat what so many others have said so far - OMFG they should sooooo have trains with like 40 seats accross!!!!!11one

[jamesissoocool]

i dont think that would happen cos they would have to redo the station and the floors but if they put floorless cars on a dive machine it should be oblivion because its all about the drop and your see the tiny hole in the ground more cleary

[MarkB]

I think that this is a plausible thing to do. Busch might have wanted floorless trains for the ride when it opened, but maybe B&M at the time did not have the floor mechanism for the station ready. Thinking about it, to me at least, would be the most difficult part of the entire design. The floors that would come up would be close to twice the length of what the previous systems uses. The way these larger floors will come up seem to more complicated than previous floorless design. Now if that is true, they might have just added some more hardware to the trains that would be simple enough to remove if they ever did go to a floorless design. Just looking at some pictures of the trains, it appears as if the floor isn't really integrated that much into the trains. To sum up, I can completely see them doing this if it would only mean adding the station floor and modifying the trains, as that seems much more reasonable than getting entire new trains.

Here you can see how the floor appears to be only an extra part of the train.

[ECZenith]

Awww, does this mean no more cool beaks on the front of the trains?

 

I hope this is true, definately can't hurt the ride experience.

[Alexander Nagel]

If you think about it they would be able to reuse the seats (and the seat frames) and also the wheel chasis, and some other parts, so all that would have to be manufactured really would be the frame and the dropping floors. So if they go that way it would cut down the price greatly but still wouldn't be cheap. As for the floors, they really wouldn't be all the hard to be installed since they just bolt right onto the track's backbone. Alot harder to install after the ride has been built of course. I could see this happening but at the same time I don't really see the point.

[shesaidboom]

I love the floorless concept. I don't know why, since most people don't seem to care for it. It just seems neat to me..well, for the front row anyway, the effect is pretty much lost on the rest of the train. Someone said that Sheikra already seems floorless since the seats are up so high, and I agree with that. In the middle and back rows it'll probably seem exactly the same. It might add to the experience in the front row, like others have mentioned, since there'd be nothing infront of you while you hang over the edge for those few seconds, but I don't see the point in changing the ride so soon. At least wait a few years until the newness of the ride has worn off. There are tons of people who want to ride but haven't gotten a chance to yet. I wouldn't complain if they put floorless trains on it, but I personally think the ride is awesome as is. But Montu is better..mmmmmmm, Montu.

[coasterfreak101]

I'm borderline on whether this is good or not. Like many have said, it can't hurt the ride experience! But then, it also messes up Griffons' claim as the "Only Floorless Dive Machine", and if these new trains are put on before "Late Spring", then Griffon won't be the first, either!

 

And according to that article, Busch wanted SkeiKra to be floorless from the get-go, but B&M wasn't ready yet (I'm assuming the technology wasn't ready), so they made SheiKra so that it would be able to become a floorless coaster in the future.

[jamesdillaman]

What we're all forgetting is that the new trains will mean a new coaster credit! Paging Eric Johnson

 

-James Dillaman

[coasterdude5]

This is cool and all, unless the ride is down when I go there sometime between March 10 -17th!

[pvcoasterguy]

Muy interesante.

 

I think that this, unlike other floorless coasters, will benefit from the floorless trains. The vertical drops (and holds), tunnels, and water splash will all benefit more from the floorless trains.

 

My thought: the new trains may not add much, but they certainly won't take anything away from the ride--only positive (or neutral) things can come from this switch. There will be no hinderance from these trains. In fact, some elements of this coaster will be really cool with the floorless trains.

[RNRC]

I don't think it'll add anything to the ride by making it floorless. It sounds to me like a pointless thing to do. In my opinion, they should just leave Sheikra the way it is.

[DerekRx]

I'm sure it could happen, but I really don't buy it. The people stating these rumors on Screamscape are probably the same ones who insisted that Mantis was going to get floorless trains instead of standup ones way back in 2000-01. Its something that could be done to this ride, but it would cost a pretty penny to change the station (and the drop, and the other clearances) and the GP wouldn't know the difference anyway between the two, seeing how you really don't even touch the floor unless you're over 6 feet tall (especially in the back).

[Johnny Upsidedown]

I really hope that this is just a rumor. I dont see much of a benifit to modifying the trains to a flooless. The main problem I see is that it will slow the boarding process makeing for longer lines on buisy days. Let alone I just cant imagine the justification for them to change the ride now. It just doesnt make much sense to make the modification to a floorless. But then again once we get to ride Griffon the opions on floorless may change a little.

[RctInfinity]

In my opinion, they might want to keep both, or just the floored trains. Without the floors, the train would look weird...

[Satoshi]

me don't think we gonna alter now Sheikra's train into floorless

because Sheikra is the original as latest styled dive machine!

ya know Obivion now gonna be outta date diver!

[IceDragon]

me don't think we gonna alter now Sheikra's train into floorless

because Sheikra is the original as latest styled dive machine!

ya know Obivion now gonna be outta date diver!

 

Oblivion may be out of date, but i perfer it.

 

Oblivion was only a test rollercoaster. like Air, it isnt at full potential because of this.

 

to be perfectly honest, it doesnt need to be floorless.

[palavos3]

The fact that screamscape wrote this article doesn't prove anything. The guy from screamscape probably got this information from a very unreliable source. They are probably going to leave Sheikra the way it is.

[mark9]

Oblivion may be out of date, but i perfer it.

 

Well not really considering Oblivion is still a scary ride regardless of Sheikra and Griffin. Its maybe shorter but out of date? Nah.

[TPDave]

The fact that screamscape wrote this article doesn't prove anything. The guy from screamscape probably got this information from a very unreliable source. They are probably going to leave Sheikra the way it is.

 

So what website leaked all the maverick info a few days early then?

[DerekRx]

^Rumors are just that, rumors. Sure, a rumor may end up being true, but looking back at rumors posted on Screamscape and other websites in the last couple of years, how many of them actually have happened?

 

People in the know don't talk, thats why they're trusted with future information. I know some people who knew exactly what Maverick was going to be months before it was announced.

 

If you keep shooting blindly into the air, eventually you're gonna hit something

[TPDave]

Well yeah, i was more making the point that not everything screamscape says is total BS. Most of it is useless, but it could be true, and i see no reason why this couldn't be true.

[viking86]

I dont think it makes much sense to convert the trains on SheiKra into floorless trains. It would be really expensive to do, and I doubt they would make much (if any) more money by doing so....