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For a good cheap motel, there's a place on Rye Beach Rd called the Maples Motel, rooms start at I think $40 for a single. Its a old school place but its clean, friendly, cheap and just down the road from the point.

 

 

Thank you, I checked it out, it looks like about what we are looking for! I decided to go for Fastlane Plus on the 17th, guarantees an awesome day at the point.

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Dragster: 8.5/10, 45-60 minutes; pure adrenaline rush. Quick, but still smooth (P.S. got front of the line passes thanks to Tony's tweet-ups. Highly recommend following him on twitter!). It was VERY temperamental both days and broke down every half hour.

 

I was there yesterday, 6/5, and Dragster ran without a hitch consistently all day. It's normally hit or miss with that ride. I've been there on days like you described, and days like yesterday.

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Hello all. Went to Cedar Point for the first time in 9 years this past week, and I brought 3 friends with me. I don't really remember enough for a full trip report, but I'll cover some highlights from the two days I was there:

*Both days it threatened to rain, but neither day it did. Sunday was pretty windy though, so Dragster and the Skyway were closed until about 2. Everything else ran though both days

*Windseeker was closed Sunday but open Monday, so I got that credit in. It's lots of fun. It was cold that morning which kind of added to the element of speed while swinging around.

*MaXair was a lot more fun than I thought it was going to be! Especially fun were the apexes of each swing, where the rotation kinda made it feel like you were about to fall out of your seat.

*Skyhawk wasn't open either day

*Shoot The Rapids is theoretically fun, but not on a day when it's windy and nobody wants to get wet. I guess the attendant *was* technically correct when he said it was drier than Snake River Falls. On a related note, $5 for 3 minutes in a drying booth for 4 people is totally worth it.

*The Magic Seat on Magnum (1-3), much like The Room, Troll 2, or Birdemic, is just so bad it's good. It was much more enjoyable to sit in 1-2 and listen to my friends' reactions. I greatly preferred the last row of the train; it's a lot of air, but not too much to hurt.

*GateKeeper is a lot of fun, and I think it's a great addition to the park. On Sunday it was just "fun", but it was giving some great rides the very next day. I guess the wind was slowing it down a lot? Anyway, I liked it. It was fast but graceful, and each element was interesting. When riding in the back, it was even forceful, especially on the last helix. I would say the front right quadrant was our favorite place to sit on the train. Also, oh my goodness, even if this was the worst ride at the park, it is GORGEOUS to look at

*On a semi-related note, while waiting for Maverick, the employee controlling the line into the station was chatting with guests, and openly complaining about GateKeeper. He was saying that the park built it up way too much (I guess true?), that it was such a disappointment (I disagree), and that all the other staff make fun of it too (if he says it it must be true, but why tell guests that? It's not fair to color people's opinions like that, and I found it to be unprofessional). While talking about how disappointing GK was to some guests, this particular employee pointed to Mean Streak and said "I mean, it only goes one mile per hour faster than that." WHAT.

?!?! That is a completely irrelevant and invalid comparison to make. I was so incensed by his line of reasoning a almost called him out on it.

*I also went on Maverick for the first time. Once I learned how to ride it (totally GP and gripping the OTSR at the shoulders), it was lots of fun. After our first ride it broke down for about 20 minutes while we were on the brake run. The employee who came out to check on us said there should be a #stuckonmaverick hashtag for all the times this happens.

*To complete the trifecta of snarky employees, the announcer at TTD said "We paid $25 million for this ride, bu only got the rights to 20 seconds of this song [TTD's theme song]"

*Eff all the haters, I love Millennium Force to death. Every single ride on in was great, plus every single time I got at least some air on all three hills (even moreso in the front). I just love how FAST it is the whole time, and flows through all the elements; not every roller coaster has to have grey-out inducing forces to be considered good, in my opinion. The front seat was easily the highlight of the trip. Until I get another ride on I305 (and one that isn't the day after I get rear-ended on I-95 unlike last time), I'm going to say that Millie is firmly the superior giga of the two I've been on.

*FastLane+ is absolutely worth it, especially when I don't get to go to the park that often. In the two days, we went on MF 8 times, GK 6 times, Maverick 4 times, TTD and Magnum 3 times, Raptor and Blue Streak 2 times, once on every other coaster plus a bunch of flats, plus plenty of break times for food and water and such. Not objectively impressive, but I still think we did pretty well for ourselves. We decided there should be a ++ option where you get to pee on everyone waiting in line

 

If anyone cares enough to have any other questions about the trip I'd be happy to answer them!

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Double post I know, but I just thought of something else. Can anyone tell me what these two things are called? The air was so full of the puffballs the two days it looked like it was snowing. One of them lazily drifted into my mouth as I was talking. Also, the bugs were on pretty much every vertical surface during the morning, then they swarmed around at night and hit everyone in the face on night rides.

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^^Dude, where on Maverick were you sitting? I was there too, in the second to front row of the train that was going into the station (I was one of the 4 people in the shade !)

 

We were all in the last car of Bart (silver train), so second to last train before it broke down. Well, not including the train sitting on the launch track below us, which was the cause of the breakdown. That must've been a fun 20 minutes.

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I just love how FAST it is the whole time, and flows through all the elements; not every roller coaster has to have grey-out inducing forces to be considered good, in my opinion.

THIS!! Thank you for saying this, UrbanLegend! I completely agree!

Thanks for sharing your report. Sounds like you had a great time!

Haha I definitely remember the cottonwood seeds on my last visit. They were hitting me in the face while riding Gemini. It was really strange.

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*On a semi-related note, while waiting for Maverick, the employee controlling the line into the station was chatting with guests, and openly complaining about GateKeeper. He was saying that the park built it up way too much (I guess true?), that it was such a disappointment (I disagree), and that all the other staff make fun of it too (if he says it it must be true, but why tell guests that? It's not fair to color people's opinions like that, and I found it to be unprofessional). While talking about how disappointing GK was to some guests, this particular employee pointed to Mean Streak and said "I mean, it only goes one mile per hour faster than that."

 

He, like a lot of the GP, was probably expecting GK to be a white-knuckle, balls to the wall intense ride that will melt your face off. And because GK isn't that, they complain. I, like many others, think GK is fun and a winner for CP. Not the best ride ever, but it doesn't have to be.

 

Anyway.... thanks for your trip summary and I've glad you had fun.

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Coastermania = Unreal! Yesterday Friday 6/7 was Coastermania at the Point. The weather sucked (nothing C.P. could do about), the Muffleheads were out in masse. I do enjoy GateKeeper, but after 10 rides in the last 2 days, my clavicle is very sore. I don't know how some of you were able to ride it many times. I think I just need to wear football pads to enjoy more reps.

 

Morning ERT was great, and I'm sure the evening was good too. I didn't attend because I was exhausted. Free lunch was amazing as usual: Brats, Mac & cheese, pasta barbeque and ice cream for desert. The most unbelievable thing of this event was the gifts we all received. Each of us received a special edition CoasterMania / GateKeeper 2013 pin - very nice touch! The amazing gift was a GateKeeper fleece jacket. This jacket is being sold in the gift shop for $39.95. All I can say is -- very generous! I'm amazed every year that this major event comes to us at no charge, especially with these mementos.

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Hey everyone!

I'll be attending the GKTW event tomorrow throughout the day. I'll be going as a single rider, so if any other single riders are interested in grouping up for the day let me know!

 

Also, if anyone that is staying all day needs a ride in the Elyria to Cleveland area, please let me know and I'll see what I can do

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CoasterMania was good, but they wouldn't let us re-ride on Magnum like last year (I think.) They did let us reride on Maverick, and it was amazing, running fast and hauling "donkey" through the Twisted Horseshoe Roll. It kinda sucks that there was nothing special at the event - no announcements, no video competition, etc. - and it was shorter than it used to be. But my toe has a blister from my friend forcing me to walk fast anyways, so maybe the shortening was a good thing...

 

Now, GateKeeper disappointed me on my ride right before CoasterMania. It is still running normal, my nitpicky complaint is the lights. The lights on the wings of some cars are turned off. Only one train (the one we were riding in) had all its white lights on, at least on the left side. The glowing eyes (my favorite part of the lighting package) were not running on most trains. One train (not the one with all of its white lights) had its left eye on. The right eye was off, but flickered a bit as the train pulled into the station as I watched from the exit area. The ride has been open to the public less than one month. To compare, here is Swarm during Fright Nights, so it has been run much longer than GateKeeper at filming time.

 

 

So a park with 7 coasters can keep a coaster with what looks like more lights in working order along with a plethora of special effects, while the world's best park for 15 years (fanboy mode, activated) that probably has more money to work with can't fix the lights on its trains after a month without any other effects to deal with. On a related note, several of Scrambler's lighting tubes were closed on opening day. Yesterday, TTD's giant "Christmas Tree" lights on the tower had the both uppermost lights turned off, if memory serves.

 

By the way, I have a question. My friend points out that Maverick used to slow down and crawl a bit in the tunnel before the LSMs got the train moving. It still happens when the ride runs empty. Why does it not do it during normal operation?

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By the way, I have a question. My friend points out that Maverick used to slow down and crawl a bit in the tunnel before the LSMs got the train moving. It still happens when the ride runs empty. Why does it not do it during normal operation?

Physics. If the train is empty, it has no momentum and will slow to a crawl before it reaches the LSMs. If it is full and it's a hot day, it will power past the brakes and straight onto the LSMs.

 

Any ride will stop much later loaded than empty. Simple physics of inertia.

 

So a park with 7 coasters can keep a coaster with what looks like more lights in working order along with a plethora of special effects, while the world's best park for 15 years (fanboy mode, activated) that probably has more money to work with can't fix the lights on its trains after a month without any other effects to deal with. On a related note, several of Scrambler's lighting tubes were closed on opening day. Yesterday, TTD's giant "Christmas Tree" lights on the tower had the both uppermost lights turned off, if memory serves.

I feel like you answered your own question there...the park only has 7 coasters. Maybe they have the time to deal with lights and effects. The maintenance at CP works hard enough to keep the rides RUNNING. Be thankful for that.

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Whatever happens in Maverick's tunnel is directly related to where the train ahead of it is in the block. In my experiences, I have come to a complete stop then advanced to the launch after a short pause, crawled veeeerrrry slowly then launched, and slowed just a little then took off like a bat out of hell! I preferred being slowed just a little so there was no break in the action!

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Hey guys! I plan on going out to CP during the week of the second week of July. I'm hoping since the week before is 4th of July, and it's usually packed then that it'll be alot less busy. Anybody happen to know what it may be like?

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By the way, I have a question. My friend points out that Maverick used to slow down and crawl a bit in the tunnel before the LSMs got the train moving. It still happens when the ride runs empty. Why does it not do it during normal operation?

Physics. If the train is empty, it has no momentum and will slow to a crawl before it reaches the LSMs. If it is full and it's a hot day, it will power past the brakes and straight onto the LSMs.

 

Any ride will stop much later loaded than empty. Simple physics of inertia.

 

So a park with 7 coasters can keep a coaster with what looks like more lights in working order along with a plethora of special effects, while the world's best park for 15 years (fanboy mode, activated) that probably has more money to work with can't fix the lights on its trains after a month without any other effects to deal with. On a related note, several of Scrambler's lighting tubes were closed on opening day. Yesterday, TTD's giant "Christmas Tree" lights on the tower had the both uppermost lights turned off, if memory serves.

I feel like you answered your own question there...the park only has 7 coasters. Maybe they have the time to deal with lights and effects. The maintenance at CP works hard enough to keep the rides RUNNING. Be thankful for that.

 

I understand the physics thing, but my friend claims it used to slow down more during normal operation.

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Was out at the Point yesterday (Sunday). Ideal day to be there as lines were literally small by CP standards (Gatekeeper was only 45 minutes at 2 PM). Did not ride a whole lot.

 

Rode Gatekeeper four times and loved it. While I didn't have a problem the first three times the fourth and last time had the restraint so tight I had a hard time breathing by the mid-course brake (sat in row 2 on the left side at about 8 PM - the wait was down to 15-20 minutes).

 

Magnum went down mid to late afternoon and never reopened. That is odd since it has been one of CP's most consistently run coasters. Wicked Twister also had issues later in the day and after my fourth ride on GK they were testing it. Windseeker and Sky Ride went down mid to late afternoon due to the winds picking up. Both did not reopen once the winds diminished a little later on.

 

Took me three times to get on Maverick as the first two times it had broken down and I didn't stay in line. Still my favorite in the park.

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It seems the general consensus for the Gatekeeper restraints are that if you are smaller than 5' 10" and 180 lbs they are painful. If you are over that line and a bigger person they are comfortable. I am 5' 10" and 165 and found them painful after forty rides, my color bones were even bruised but i loved every second of it.

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It seems the general consensus for the Gatekeeper restraints are that if you are smaller than 5' 10" and 180 lbs they are painful. If you are over that line and a bigger person they are comfortable. I am 5' 10" and 165 and found them painful after forty rides, my color bones were even bruised but i loved every second of it.

 

I think that's a accurate analysis of the GateKeeper restraints. I was at the Point for the past several days including Coastermania. That was the reason for my visit. Over the past several days I rode GateKeeper 10 times ( nothing compared to you media day maniacs), and it hurt every time except the first ride. It was always my first ride(s) of the day, so not a good start. I was on both sides although the inside seat (not as much fun) seemed to clamp down less. I'm 6' and 160 pounds. My collar bone is still sore this morning. I do like the ride a lot, but I guess I need to wear football pads for my visit in August. I a big B&M fan, but this is the first one that has hurt me.

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I was at Cedar Point for the first time on Friday June 7th and had a great time. I rode 22 rides including the 14 adult coasters as well as maxair, windseeker, and Cedar Downs Racing Derby and shoot the rapids. Got 3 rides on millenium force and 2 on Mean streak, Magnum XL 200, and Gemini. Every other coaster I rode once. Never waited more than maybe 25-30 minutes minus when millenium force went down and Maverick added new trains. We got there at 9:00am and basically worked our way from the back of the park to the front. Overall it was a fantastic day as I was worried about crowds going in but ended up getting on everything I wanted and then some. Overall a nice park with a good collection of rides that could use a really good wooden coaster. Park was clean, run very well and the staff were very enthusiastic. I still believe Hersheypark, Busch Gardens, Dollywood, Knoebels, and Kennywood are better overall parks though.

 

Ill rate the coasters as follows.

 

Millenium Force: 9/10 First ride in the back was disappointing and offered almost no airtime on the 2 large hills and a small pop on the bunny hill. First drop was good but not quite as good as I305. It also didn't feel as fast as I305 for some reason. My second and third rides were in the front and much better. Amazing sustained floater throughout the hills and a nice shot of ejector on the buny hill at the end. The ride seemed much faster as well. Not sure if it sped up throughout the day or the front just gives a better ride but the second and third ride put it in my top 5 steel. I'd need to ride I305 again to compare but I like the intensity of I305 and the layout and restraints on MF.

 

Gatekeeper: 8/10 Superior and more intense than Wild Eagle but just like that ride the restraints are too tight on my chest at the end. At least I didn't have trouble breathing like I did on Wild Eagle. That wasn't fun

 

Top Thrill Dragster: 9/10 Short but sweet. The smoother ride and lapbars made this more enjoyable than Kingda Ka. The airtime on my ride was incredible but I'm sure this varies depending on how fast it travels over the tophat.

 

Maverick: 7/10. With I305 restraints this would easily be a 9/10 but the need to ride defensively took some enjoyment out of it unfortunately. I wasn't able to just enjoy the ride like I wanted too.

 

Magnum XL 200: 9/10 Better than Steel Force and some great airtime. Throws you around a bit and some jerky transitions but thats part of the fun. The airtime did not hurt my thighs like some people claim.

 

Mean Streak: 6/10 After reading reviews I was expecting this to be almost unbearable but I've ridden much worse. Not bad but not great either.

Raptor: 8/10 One of my favorite inverted coasters. That helix toward the end was INTENSE.

Blue Streak 7/10 Nice airtime and a classic feel.

Gemini: 8/10 Fun racing coaster.

Corkscrew: 3/10 Ugh too tall for this ride. Painful restraints and too short. Least favorite ride of the day

Mantis: 4/10 Not a fan of standups

Wicked Twisted: 8/10 First ride of its kind that Ive ridden. Surprisingly fun.

Iron Dragon: 7/10 Not as fun as Top Gum or Big Bad Wolf.

Cedar Creek Mine ride: 6/10

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It seems the general consensus for the Gatekeeper restraints are that if you are smaller than 5' 10" and 180 lbs they are painful. If you are over that line and a bigger person they are comfortable. I am 5' 10" and 165 and found them painful after forty rides, my color bones were even bruised but i loved every second of it.

 

I think that's a accurate analysis of the GateKeeper restraints. I was at the Point for the past several days including Coastermania. That was the reason for my visit. Over the past several days I rode GateKeeper 10 times ( nothing compared to you media day maniacs), and it hurt every time except the first ride. It was always my first ride(s) of the day, so not a good start. I was on both sides although the inside seat (not as much fun) seemed to clamp down less. I'm 6' and 160 pounds. My collar bone is still sore this morning. I do like the ride a lot, but I guess I need to wear football pads for my visit in August. I a big B&M fan, but this is the first one that has hurt me.

 

I'm MUCH shorter than that (5' 2 and 2/3) and a bit heavier than 180. The restraints are uncomfortable at the end but not bruising.

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