coasterbill Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Who cares if Blue Streak is the only wood coaster in the park? Disney Universal and Busch / Sea World (as of now) have a grand total of zero wood coasters total in their entire park chains and nobody cares. Plus Blue Streak is a perfectly solid little coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Who cares if Blue Streak is the only wood coaster in the park? Disney Universal and Busch / Sea World (as of now) have a grand total of zero wood coasters total in their entire park chains and nobody cares. Plus Blue Streak is a perfectly solid little coaster. It's not that Blue Streak is the only wood coaster... It's that I (and many people) love wooden coasters and I think Cedar Point would highly benefit from having an awesome one (It could be as extreme and awesome Mean Streak was originally supposed to be)! Especially at a park that has an excellent coaster of every type - It just makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterMateo Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Has anyone seen the little part of the steeper lift for Mean Streak on the webcam yet? It's like 45* off a rough estimate. Edited October 18, 2016 by CoasterMateo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterMateo Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) double post Edited October 18, 2016 by CoasterMateo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcurry11 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 ^That is extremely steep. If I wasn't already doing my calculus homework, I would do the math to estimate the height based on the ~45 degree lift and the old length of the lift. Someone else want to take care of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP Maverick Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 According to Tony Clark, they are working on the webcams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 According to Tony Clark, they are working on the webcams. Cam 2 (the only one that matters) is working like a dream but they need to angle it a little bit to the right. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcurry11 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Upon quick research and a triangle calculator, I could not find the lift hill angle for Mean Streak. I guessed it was somewhere around 30 degrees. With the original height of 161 feet, that gives a 322 foot length from the peak to the bottom of the lift. With a 45 degree lift, that could bring the potential height to 322 feet. Good luck with that, but yeah, potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armyboy608 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Upon quick research and a triangle calculator, I could not find the lift hill angle for Mean Streak. I guessed it was somewhere around 30 degrees. With the original height of 161 feet, that gives a 322 foot length from the peak to the bottom of the lift. With a 45 degree lift, that could bring the potential height to 322 feet. Good luck with that, but yeah, potential? Triangle Calculator??? #Pythagorus Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If I had the courage to do it right now, I certainly would do the calculation myself. Maybe later. 30 degrees is a safe estimate for the lift. Most coasters use that benchmark angle. Depending on what RMC goes with as far as the layout, the higher they go, the larger pullout that would be needed too. So they won't go extremely high. Son of Beast was 218'. Personally, I can't see them going that high, but maybe they will try to beat the 200' mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Alex Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I wonder if Cedar Fair has a GCI family woodie in store a few years down the pipeline. Mean Streak is looking great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiABeta Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I wonder how many people will completely ignore the RMC that Cedar Point plopped in the park and say 'Blue Streak is the only wooden coaster in the park now! But to be honest I know people who call Gemini a "wood coaster". I wouldn't think too deeply into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNotOneOfYou Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 How steep is the lift on Wicked Cyclone? It felt really steep when i rode it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Assuming that the current lift angle is 30 degrees, that gives a length of 322 feet to get to the height of 161'. If the lift angle is steepened to 45 degrees, and the length of the lift is kept the same, that will result in a height of 227-228 feet. So a hyper hybrid/wood coaster is not out of the realm. There are many factors in the design process and eventual layout of the coaster to consider, so don't take that number as the actual result height. It's just an estimate based off the current angle and the new angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 30 degree lift angle at 161 feet is a horizontal displacement of 279 feet, so at 45 that's a 279 foot lift. But assuming the lift starts at the same spot, you still need the space within the structure for the drop and first turn, so that number means next to nothing because of the increased radius of the pullout and subsequent rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psaulaferraz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 It could just be that they are steeping up the lift for having more height (no necessarily de maximum talking about the current location of the drop) in less space, and therefore having more space for the pullout. Also think that the drop will be a lot steeper so they are going to win also more "horizontal" space to do a larger pullout required because of the increased speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcurry11 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So we are most likely looking at just over 200ft after everything is settled and done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So we are most likely looking at just over 200ft after everything is settled and done? Nobody here has any idea until it's actually built or announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So we are most likely looking at just over 200ft after everything is settled and done? That's what I said forever ago, when we first started talking about an RMC Mean Streak. And everyone said 'That's not physically possible with the existing structure of the ride...." Blah. Blah. Blah. For your sanity, don't ever say "200ft" and "Mean Streak" in the same sentence on here without the word NOT in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNotOneOfYou Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 For your sanity, don't ever say "200ft" and "Mean Streak" in the same sentence on here without the word NOT in it. What if I were to say " I am positive RMC Mean Streak will be over 200 feet, not under" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Long day... Disregard my calculation, Password is correct. I used the wrong side of the triangle Either way, this is to show that 200+ is a possibility given the current structure being formed. Not a given. For all we know it might be the same height or a little taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Long day... Disregard my calculation, Password is correct. I used the wrong side of the triangle Is you use the Pythagorean theorem and remember to carry the 2 it's going to be at least 800 feet tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snovi Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Using simply the Pythagorean theorem isn't gonna be accurate to determine a possible lift height. A user over at PointBuzz had the most thorough assessment of ~200ft by using the proper method to calculate a potential height based on the variables we know... Here's the post outlining the calculations for any other engineering nerds like myself that are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I was kidding. And that guy is taking this way too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brneff99 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 the lack of ability to detect sarcasm appears to be contagious and not contained to a few these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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