Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[Coasterguy21]

^Unknown. There's been a few teasers here and there, but nothing to be too excited about. We'll get it when we get it. Just the prospects of it being a thrill ride like McClure states excites me.

[Tmcdllr]

A new teaser was posted on twitter:

 

https://twitter.com/TonyClarkCP/status/503884334106169347

 

 

Hmm, seat cushion, chair back, seat back, sit back?

[VF15]

^

Sounds like it's hinting towards sitdown/floorless trains on Mantis. Would be very happy if that happened .

[GCI Wooden]

How are dispatch times on Mantis? Would Floorless trains increase capacity? I know that floorless coasters have to have the floor go down, but I am pretty sure that some people would require operator assistance on a stand-up because they aren't used to the restraining system. Could floorless trains mean shorter lines?

[JonnyRCT3]

I never know the movable floors affected capacity.

[christianscoasters]

How are dispatch times on Mantis? Would Floorless trains increase capacity? I know that floorless coasters have to have the floor go down, but I am pretty sure that some people would require operator assistance on a stand-up because they aren't used to the restraining system. Could floorless trains mean shorter lines?

 

Mantis was designed to run 3 trains, but only runs 2. So yes, adding a 3rd train would increase capacity.

[scbt]

I think its safe to say that floorless trains would definitely help capacity - stand up restraints are more complicated than the standard sit down restraints which would make it so people could be loaded faster.

[willh51]

^A little informal survey via the live cams shows Mantis dispatching fairly quickly for a stand-up but not fast enough to warrant three trains in 2014. Typically, a train hits the lift as the second hits the final brakes before the station. Running three trains would only result in double stacking behind the station. With floorless trains, they could probably have one on the lift, one in the post-midcourse track and one loading.

[John Peck]

IF they decided to change Mantis' trains, I think the cheaper option would be to just go as a sit-down, since I'm pretty sure they would have to redesign the station floor and track in the station since it would need to be wider for all the moving parts.

 

Does that sound feasible?

[MagmMForce247]

I have no idea if it would be feasible, but goodness I wish they could put a new station on Mantis. It is so small and UGLY.

[BurgoAndM]

If Mantis is changed to a sit-down the station can stay the same besides the changes that CF would want to make. If Mantis is changed to a floorless, I'd like the current station to be taken down to have a bigger station (^), that can have more capacity for train loading / people (if possible), and can fit the new additions specifically for a floorless.

[rcjp]

^I'd be okay with a sit down train. I think they're good enough.

[MagnumFreak25]

If it does get new trains it seems like floor-less is the best option. They already have rides like Maverick and Corkscrew which would be a little bit too similar I feel. Plus the GP would get more excited over floor-less than plain sitting down.

[rcjp]

I've been thinking if the next floorless/sitting B&M coaster will feature these new restraints given that they were already applied to inverts. I also wonder if the two dive machines for Europe next year will have them.

[coasterchitchat]

Oh Tony.....

 

[Diamondbacker27]

I don't like the mantis station either. It's style is kind of ugly.

[coasterchitchat]

So Bryan tweets out to watch a POV of Mantis and then Tony tweets out to watch a POV of Mean Streak.

[BurgoAndM]

^ Let the speculation begin.. ..again

Mantis is the floorless as said before, with retheme.

Mean Streak is fix it up or TEAR IT DOWN

[coasterchitchat]

^ Let the speculation begin.. ..again

Mantis is the floorless as said before, with retheme.

Mean Streak is fix it up or TEAR IT DOWN

 

TEAR DOWN Mean Streak Tony! Invite us to come tear it down.

 

Mean Streak is running a bit better this year, though.

[VF15]

So Bryan tweets out to watch a POV of Mantis and then Tony tweets out to watch a POV of Mean Streak.

Now I'm torn on whether it's sitdown/floorless Mantis or RMC Mean Streak. Either one would be great. My guess is that both of those will eventually happen, with one of them coming next year. I also predict that whatever comes next year will also get renamed King James (assuming they're really serious about that).

[Coasterguy21]

They're just playing some games. I doubt either of them are going anywhere. It's at that point that you really got to wonder what is going in. We know it'll be a thrill ride judging by what McClure said to the papers. It was stated that the off-season tour will not want to be missed this year. Just so many options.

 

I bet they showed the two coasters just for giggles. If not, one of them may be the next King James. To be honest, I highly doubt that either of them will be changed. The floorless Mantis has been a pipe dream for years and everyone always swears its going to happen the next season. Same with the RMC Makeover on Mean Streak.

[BurgoAndM]

Let's just hope CF will work with RMC on this one rather than some other group

[MagnumFreak25]

They pretty much are guaranteed and to happen eventually, they're the two worst coasters in the park and like Disaster Transport need to be and will be improved.

[Coasterguy21]

^Does a park really ever "have to" or "need to" do anything though? It's all just enthusiasts "wish lists". The park knows how things are operating and maybe the ridership numbers both pull in are justifiable to NOT do renovations on them. Nothing was ever stated that "it will happen".

 

Disaster Transport broke down a lot and the building was an eyesore on the beach. It also sat in the exact area they wanted to build a new coaster in. That's why it went. Same with Space Spiral. Not as much of an eyesore and definitely iconic, but it was a maintenance nightmare and its ridership just wasn't justifiable.

[MagnumFreak25]

A long line on Mean Streak is a one train wait and there isn't a single person who says they want to ride again. Mantis is liked a little bit more but everyone I've talked to hates it.