ebl Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I thought about taking a trip out there today, but decided against it. It was pretty cool outside here at home, but not really SFMM weather to me. There are still a couple of weekends to get out there, so I'll go again then. For some reason, I started thinking about getting my season pass renewal in the mail and what it might reveal about next year's plans for the park. I don't really expect anything till sometime next month or even December. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 ^I agree. I think Terminator was a fluke in the sense that even the [ark was excited about it with all the bells and whistles it came along with. I think that since the park still operates year round, they can hold off announcements until thanksgiving/christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I think they'll wanna do it a decent amount of time before Christmas as they would want season passes to be used as presents. Hell, in theory they should do it before Black Friday as that's when a lot of people use up their holiday shopping money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiyoh1984 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Unrelated to the Fright Fest, but X2 went down 3 times while I was there. The first two were for audio, and the last time was because they were having trouble rotating the seats back to dispatch the trains. I was there last Sunday, and the audio on train 2 would crap out right after the first drop and would come and go sporadically. Once hitting the end of the ride the audio would come back as if nothing had happened. Does anyone know what might be causing this? Just the intensity of the ride itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 ^ I don't think Terminator is rough or intense enough to knock out the audio system. Good wiring and connections should withstand that ride. Interesting that Train 2 seems to have so many problems, though. I've noticed that its sound seems to be out fairly regularly. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I think it's faulty sensors on either the track or trains. Because the audio track played on the rides isnt one complete sound clip, but a bunch of small ones that get turned on every time the train passes a sensor on the track. So the signal coming from the sensor or train (idk exactly how it works) might be too weak at those points to register. Edit: \ / I must say I do enjoy it from the back the best. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiyoh1984 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 X2 is still a great ride with or without the audio. This past trip to SFMM was the first time I was able to ride the front and back of X2.....I must say I do enjoy it from the back the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 ^ I never hear the audio during a ride on X2 anyway, except for the part just before the first drop, and the part as you cruise into the station. ^^ I wasn't aware of how Terminator's audio worked, but your explanation made a lot of sense. Electronic sensors can go bad fairly easily. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooksta77 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 ^^ I wasn't aware of how Terminator's audio worked, but your explanation made a lot of sense. Electronic sensors can go bad fairly easily. Eric If you look closely on Terminator when you get to the top of the lift hill you can see a sensor. Now I don't know if that's the sensor to have the guy yell "Here they come" or if that's for something else. Also when I went, on Terminator some rides they would scream the quotes on others just the music. Andrew "Does anyone know why this happens" Iorio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMountainMan Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 ^I'm guessing that just like how any type of effect on a ride is triggered by a sensor on the car passing a sensor on the track is how it works on Terminator/X2. One thing I noticed while the mechanic was fixing the audio on X2 was once she got it working, she was able to 'skip' to certain parts of the soundtrack as if there were multiple track to the actual ride and not just one continuous loop. If you've ever noticed, when hitting the breaks on X2, there's a moment of silence before the break squeal is heard. My guess that it's passing a sensor and the break squeal and the Rage song get played after because it's that part of the 'track'. Also, when you're in the station and the train leaves but the audio doesn't start up until it's half way out probably has to do with the positioning of the sensor. So basically I think that yes, on both Termy and X2, the whole soundtrack is actually split up into pieces and each one is triggered by passing over a sensor at some portion of the ride. I just realized that I just basically restated what Atem said, but in a less eloquent way. But I do think that some of the miscues of the audio on Terminator especially either have to do with a bad sound system or faulty sensors. And they still haven't turned up the audio on it, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawrtotheargh Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I know that X2 has a laser sensor on the back of the train to the left of the music box(If you looking from the front of the train back, you can see it if you sit row seven left side of the train). And on the track there are stationary markers that have a certain number of ticks on it. The laser counts the number of ticks and plays whatever track is associated with the count number. I have yet to figure out how the audio on Termi works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 SFMM was open today (Columbus Day), and I gave some thought to going but didn't. It'd be interesting to find out how crowded it was out there. Did anyone here go? Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMountainMan Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 ^You think about going to Magic Mountain every other weekend but end up not going! You got to get on it! I'd imagine that it wouldn't be too crowded seeing as nobody gets Columbus Day off anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiyoh1984 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 My experience with Six Flags and Columbus Day, it's just as good if not better than a quiet Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 ^^ I think it's just depression. Off-topic, to MagicMountainMan, does the NP in your location mean "Newbury Park" by chance? If so, then you're just over the hill from me! Anyway, I'll try to get out to SFMM later this month---if for no other reason than to get another ride on backwards Colossus. I got to thinking about it, and I've ridden four different types of rolling stock on that ride: The original IAD trains, the three-bench PTCs, the Morgans, and the B&Ms. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMountainMan Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 ^Yes I do live in Newbury Park, right up the hill! I actually didn't ride Colossus when I was there Saturday, although I've had back experiences riding it backwards before. Now I have something to look forward to next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcroques Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 ^ I don't think Terminator is rough or intense enough to knock out the audio system. Good wiring and connections should withstand that ride. Interesting that Train 2 seems to have so many problems, though. I've noticed that its sound seems to be out fairly regularly. Eric I don't know about that... both trains were having audio problems last Friday night, yet they both worked just fine during the day. Then again, the ride was absolutely FLYING that night. Terminator on a cold, autumn night with a nice layer of condensation on the track = HEAVEN. Maybe the speed and intensity was what caused the audio to be crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoplemoverMatt Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 SFMM was open today (Columbus Day), and I gave some thought to going but didn't. It'd be interesting to find out how crowded it was out there. Did anyone here go? Eric Yesterday was pretty light as far as crowds go. Anyone who was there should have been able to ride basically what they want when they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I'm watching the KTLA morning news and they had a call-in question and the prize for four tickets and four maze wristbands. all they had to do was name which Looney Tunes character Sierra Falls was named after...I liked the segment because with so many people feeling one way or another about the park, it was a nice 3-minute window that made the park look pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexinla Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Two new rumors about the mountain on screamscape: 2010 - Kiddie Ride / New Coaster / New Waterslide - Planned - (10/16/09) While I still don’t know much about the kiddie coaster rumored to be on the way to the park next year, but we have heard that it will likely be located not too far from the base of the Gold Rusher. I’ve also heard that this coaster may be a clone of a ride built at another Six Flags park somewhere. AND 2011 - New Coaster - Rumor - (10/16/09) I’ve heard that a fairly unqiue and impressive new coaster may be planned for 2011, possibly located near the top of the Mountain itself. Anyone know more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreditCrazy Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Well, the first one sounds a lot like a Tony Hawk big spin right where Freefall/Tidal Wave are/were. The second one sounds very un-realistic. What big coaster does the park need? I can't think of any spot on the the mountain for a big new coaster, just a flat (like a DROP TOWER!) which is what I am hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonmx Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Well, the first one sounds a lot like a Tony Hawk big spin right where Freefall/Tidal Wave are/were. The second one sounds very un-realistic. What big coaster does the park need? I can't think of any spot on the the mountain for a big new coaster, just a flat (like a DROP TOWER!) which is what I am hoping for. This sounds like record braker coaster. I guess they could use the natural terrain to build the biggest drop ever created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calicoasters Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 ^^They got plenty of room!!! Where Superman is located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenA07 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Actually I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the near future the park adds a major record breaking (or something that is unique) coaster. It has been a while, and with the economy improving I could see the parking making a move in the next several years. 2011 still seems a little soon, but I think sometime not too far after that a coaster like this could be in store for the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 As for SFMM not having the room, don't second guess what they can do. Who'd have thought that Tatsu would have been built where it is? Certainly not me, and I've been going to the park since opening year. This park has more room than you think, and they're not afraid of winding a new ride into, over, and under an existing one. Even if Superman--The Escape stays in place, there's some real estate on the hillsides where something could go and not even interfere with it. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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