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Having rid the ride today, I can tell you that the brakes don't detract at all...coming down over the loop is one of the most intense moments on any coaster I've ever ridden. It's the rest of the coaster that's somewhat disappointing; it's just too short! I think having special effects in the tunnel would go a LONG way towards making the ride feel more complete.

 

It's not a bad coaster, but Tatsu, GL, and Apocalypse were much better additions to the park in my opinion.

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No brakes after the top hat means crash! The number of brake assemblies installed is necessary to quickly and safely stop the train... they have to be there.

 

The brakes, who cares? Its after the crest of the hill so if there is AT you'll already have had it. And ya know, gotta slow the thing down : P

 

Sorry, I don't mean to keep being a Debbie Downer with this coaster. But since two people have mentioned this, I just need to say...

 

I obviously know that brakes are necessary to safely slow trains down and prevent collisions! We're of course not in magical RCT land!

 

I just find brakes placed for a significant portion of important drops on coasters to be uncomfortable and "cheap" (i.e. they could have somehow found a way to build the coaster to allow for a proper brake run). Of course finances were a problem, but that's exactly what I don't like about this coaster. It seems cheap.

 

I can't be alone in my dislike for brakes on large drops! Or maybe I can.

 

I understand. Maybe if the ride was a little longer after the top hat the brake run could have started later, but it is what it is.

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I completely agree with your post. I don't see how scanning somebody's finger would take less time than taking their picture. It wouldn't help with the lines at pass processing, and the pictures work fine.

 

There wouldn't be a need for the Season Pass center. The survey said that when you buy your pass online you'd print it out, take it to the gate and the gate attendant would give you the plastic card pass and you scan your finger. That's it.

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Anybody else get a survey today? It was all about using Biometric sensors instead of the current season pass line-up.

 

I think it's a GREAT idea.

 

If they do this I hope they have an "opt out" option.

 

I trust SF's mechanics but I don't trust their data security to safeguard my fingerprints, retina scan, urine test, etc.

 

I have never had a problem with my SF season pass, biometric surveillance technology is not needed. The photo is sufficient security to keep the pass from being overused. There are a lot of other things they could spend money on to improve their parks instead of this such as a roof over the station of their new coaster.

Call me paranoid, but I don't really want my biometric data anywhere it doesn't have to be (driver's licence, passport etc.), I just have trust issues with large corporations, not that the last week has helped make me less so, but I think they need to have an opt out for those of us that are a little on the cautious side (I'm sure it's a fair percentage).

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Well, hopefully rides like this, S:UF and Kennywood's Skyrocket are just the tip of the iceberg for Premier... These guys really seem to be stepping up their game... Hopefully their next big coasters will feature less trims on big drops though lol (all the above coasters mentioned have trims that look like they really kill the ride)

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Anybody else get a survey today? It was all about using Biometric sensors instead of the current season pass line-up.

 

I think it's a GREAT idea.

 

If they do this I hope they have an "opt out" option.

 

I trust SF's mechanics but I don't trust their data security to safeguard my fingerprints, retina scan, urine test, etc.

 

I have never had a problem with my SF season pass, biometric surveillance technology is not needed. The photo is sufficient security to keep the pass from being overused. There are a lot of other things they could spend money on to improve their parks instead of this such as a roof over the station of their new coaster.

Call me paranoid, but I don't really want my biometric data anywhere it doesn't have to be (driver's licence, passport etc.), I just have trust issues with large corporations, not that the last week has helped make me less so, but I think they need to have an opt out for those of us that are a little on the cautious side (I'm sure it's a fair percentage).

 

 

They are not taking your finger prints. The scanner measures points on your finger then assigns a numerical value to your ticket. That numerical value must be matched each time you pass thru the turnstiles on future visits.

 

 

 

Another added benefit of using the biometric scanners is they could eliminate re entry hand stamps.

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I guess I just don't understand how people who run this park think it is acceptable to open an attraction like this which is obviously underplanned and unfinished. They basically took out a load of landscaped greenery and replaced it all with concrete, and called it a plaza. They then spray painted the concrete which was very Scream-esque in my opinion and its just not the direction I'd like to see from this park.

 

The coaster itself is awesome. I like the launch, the hang time, and the backwards launch which imo is probably my favorite part of the ride. The cardboard cutouts in the tunnel with the flames is way lame. Almost any aesthetics on this ride you can tell were short budgeted. To not even have a cover over the station with the sun and high temperatures is nothing other than ridiculous.

 

Wish they would plan better or delay the opening to finish the ride instead of cutting so many things short and not finishing. Because even the untrained eye of the GP sees this stuff, and it just doesn't give a good impression, especially considering this is the presentation of their very new attraction.

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Anybody else get a survey today? It was all about using Biometric sensors instead of the current season pass line-up.

 

I think it's a GREAT idea.

 

If they do this I hope they have an "opt out" option.

 

I trust SF's mechanics but I don't trust their data security to safeguard my fingerprints, retina scan, urine test, etc.

 

I have never had a problem with my SF season pass, biometric surveillance technology is not needed. The photo is sufficient security to keep the pass from being overused. There are a lot of other things they could spend money on to improve their parks instead of this such as a roof over the station of their new coaster.

Call me paranoid, but I don't really want my biometric data anywhere it doesn't have to be (driver's licence, passport etc.), I just have trust issues with large corporations, not that the last week has helped make me less so, but I think they need to have an opt out for those of us that are a little on the cautious side (I'm sure it's a fair percentage).

It's this sort of idiotic response which frustrates me. We travel all over the world and see all this amazing technology in place and its this "dumb, paranoid American" mentality that makes it so we rarely see some of these systems implemented in the US.

 

And most of the time, it's people that don't even understand, have a clue, or take the short amount of time to try to understand what they are complaining or paranoid about.

 

Honestly, as a culture, it's embrassing.

 

And I'm writing this from a train in Japan where I'm surrounded by all sorts of incredible technology we'll never see because of people like you.

 

Thanks.

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Mascots!!!

 

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This is seriously one of the funniest things I've seen in a long, long, time!

 

Anybody else get a survey today? It was all about using Biometric sensors instead of the current season pass line-up.

 

I think it's a GREAT idea.

 

I also think it's a great idea, and have no problem with RFID, fingerprints, or anything like that. My only concern is that it's SFMM. I could see them getting super cheap ones that worked about as long as the terminator robots did.

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^^ I'm jealous of all the cool technology you're surrounded by right now.

 

Indeed it's sad of all the Technophobes we have here and of all the technological advances we'll never have here (at least until years later) due to peoples' perceptions of technology and their blind love of nostalgia. It's also sad that innovation is being limited due to cost constraints and the lack of short-term profitability. Too many people just think about the short-term only. It's sad that our airports are compared to the Flintstones, while the ones in Asia are compared to the Jetsons, not to mention our lack of high speed rail (what is Amtrak?) and our lack of investing in updating our aging infrastructure. Robb, enjoy Japan while you can.

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I have the strangest feeling that MM is getting something big soon that'll literally drop peoples faces, doing all this budget saving. But that's just my imagination.

 

Ohh yes, I feel it too...but maybe for the 2015 season most likely and possibly in the former Deja Vu spot to liven that area up.

 

I'm for the Biometric sensors. I didn't like getting my hand stamped when leaving the park. You could barely see the image and I always hope I didn't accidentally wash it off after eating at Wendy's, haha! (Didn't matter cause I have a season pass!) As mentioned, this could eliminate this.

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I guess I just don't understand how people who run this park think it is acceptable to open an attraction like this which is obviously underplanned and unfinished. They basically took out a load of landscaped greenery and replaced it all with concrete, and called it a plaza. They then spray painted the concrete which was very Scream-esque in my opinion and its just not the direction I'd like to see from this park.

 

The coaster itself is awesome. I like the launch, the hang time, and the backwards launch which imo is probably my favorite part of the ride. The cardboard cutouts in the tunnel with the flames is way lame. Almost any aesthetics on this ride you can tell were short budgeted. To not even have a cover over the station with the sun and high temperatures is nothing other than ridiculous.

 

Wish they would plan better or delay the opening to finish the ride instead of cutting so many things short and not finishing. Because even the untrained eye of the GP sees this stuff, and it just doesn't give a good impression, especially considering this is the presentation of their very new attraction.

 

This is exactly why I have a love/hate relationship with this thread. SFMM is anouncing a ride for the summer, manage to open it the first day of Summer(FIRST DAY!). Of course all is not finished, but if the park would have delayed the ride, everyone here would say TYPICAL SFMM and keep on bitching.

 

Maybe because I am from Europe, but I see all this a little more relaxed. Sometimes parks open there coasters for the fans(like Krake two years ago or Karacho/Trippsdill this year) and add additional theming during the off season.

 

I dont know what the big deal is, we already know Ozzy Osborne is eventually screaming in the tunnel. It will happen and I think the park is doing pretty good in the past couple of years updating there infrastructure with every new addition.

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I guess I just don't understand how people who run this park think it is acceptable to open an attraction like this which is obviously underplanned and unfinished. They basically took out a load of landscaped greenery and replaced it all with concrete, and called it a plaza. They then spray painted the concrete which was very Scream-esque in my opinion and its just not the direction I'd like to see from this park.

 

The coaster itself is awesome. I like the launch, the hang time, and the backwards launch which imo is probably my favorite part of the ride. The cardboard cutouts in the tunnel with the flames is way lame. Almost any aesthetics on this ride you can tell were short budgeted. To not even have a cover over the station with the sun and high temperatures is nothing other than ridiculous.

 

Wish they would plan better or delay the opening to finish the ride instead of cutting so many things short and not finishing. Because even the untrained eye of the GP sees this stuff, and it just doesn't give a good impression, especially considering this is the presentation of their very new attraction.

 

Obviously I just don't understand how the average person thinks they know more about running a park and installing a ride then the people that actually do.

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Hey guys remember before we all became super smart awesome enthusiasts and didn't give a s--t about the landscaping/station/mascots/spraypaint surrounding a ride and actually based our opinions of a ride off the ride itself?

 

Man, what a time that was.

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Hey guys remember before we all became super smart awesome enthusiasts and didn't give a s--t about the landscaping/station/mascots/spraypaint surrounding a ride and actually based our opinions of a ride off the ride itself?

 

Man, what a time that was.

 

No, I don't remember that time...

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Hey guys remember before we all became super smart awesome enthusiasts and didn't give a s--t about the landscaping/station/mascots/spraypaint surrounding a ride and actually based our opinions of a ride off the ride itself?

 

Man, what a time that was.

 

The website is called THEME park review. Yes, this is a roller coaster website, but people on these forums also appreciate when a ride is THEMEd. It is pretty much a given that THEMEing always makes a ride better, and a lack of THEMEing can lead to some ugly looking rides, such as Scream. Also keep in mind that this replaced Log Jammer, which was already a well-landscaped ride, but, as of now, this ride is not. Granted, that could change, but we are speaking of the condition the ride is in right now.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the area looks unfinished...actually, the area seems a bit rushed as it still looks like a construction zone. Yes, I'm all for the ride experience but the area around the ride is important too...keep in mind this is where you will be standing for the next hour before your few minutes of actual riding.

 

And again since I started a new page, here we go!

 

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Hey guys remember before we all became super smart awesome enthusiasts and didn't give a s--t about the landscaping/station/mascots/spraypaint surrounding a ride and actually based our opinions of a ride off the ride itself?

 

Man, what a time that was.

 

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I can live with parks and rides that have no theme to them, but a good theme REALLY enhances a ride/park. I understand SFMM didn't want to delay the opening of Full Throttle, but not having a covered station and temporary queues is pretty ridiculous. I wouldn't think it would cost that much more to at least put in permenant queue lines in time for the opening. I mean, come on, they had money and time to make sure the video of the guy skydiving worked in a queue line with no queues! Running it like this makes it feel "cheap." Oh well.

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For me, it has to at least look presentable...not something that appears rushed/thrown together. But I guess it fits with SFMM's theme...(See Scream, seems like an afterthought in my opinion...generic metal shed-like station, parking lot lines...but no need to beat the already beaten dead horse).

 

On the flipside, SFMM did a nice job with the whole DC Universe area as well as Apocalypse. YOLO's area just feels like something is missing...maybe there's still some finishing touches to be done to the area?

 

Now, just wait until this area gets vandalized...happened at CGA within 2 days of Gold Striker being open to the public and the queue was already littered with junk...who cares if Joe Schmoe was here? So was I...and the other big trend: Follow my IG @imanidiot I follow back. But I digress. Don't be surprised if these kind of things happen down there...it really detracts from the atmosphere, the area you are spending most of your time.

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