mangoman15 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'm glad to see that a park like this is doing so well. I've still never been there, but I'm really excited to go there next year once it reopens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Most people may not be familiar with the Inn they bought so I marked up a picture since I stay there all the time. There is a lot of grass in the corner of the motel portion that is unused by the pool area. It would be nice if they where able to fit a restaurant in there for the motel that did breakfast, lunch, dinner and had an outdoor bar by the pool. Also, keep it open to non-hotel guests for extra cash flow with a parking lot for that. They could probably give Sandbar up the street a run for their money if done properly. Green = The actual motel portion they are keeping as their motel. Red = The cottages the are tearing down and making a parking lot. This also includes the mobile homes the article mentioned. Blue = The general area of the wave pool from the photos in the existing lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterLine Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Here is the diagram of the total property of the park... The green area has been is an area that has been in "purchase" discussion for years, from what I've heard. This green area would add about 12.5 acres to the overall footprint which would make the total park around 64.5 acres, over the current 52 acres (once the Inn purchase is closed) This is very exciting for the park, and the area. The park had started to become very landlocked and this is a great way to add more space, as well as make new avenues for new rides while retaining the feel of the current park. I can't wait to see how all of this turns out. Edited September 26, 2012 by CoasterLine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dailey Enterprizes Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I feel bad for the people who own those cottages because my family owns a cottage over on Canadohta Lake and we've been going up there since I've been born (the cottage has been in the family since the 40s). I have to imagine that's what it's like for them as well. I would love to live along Erie someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 ^ The cottages being demolished are actually owned by The Inn At Presque Isle and not owned by individuals. I am not sure if the mobile homes that got an extended six month lease are vacation homes or primary residents that live there. I believe there is one full house on that property also. In my five years staying there, I got to know the Inn property manager pretty well and we talked all the time while I stayed there. The cottages where rented by folks that have been coming for years and years. There is also one family that would rent them all for a week and fly family in from all over the country for a week long family reunion. Some of the people who did this on a yearly basis will probably be disappointed. As far as the mobile park goes. According to the property manager for the Inn, he said The Inn actually owned the property and the mobiles homes had long leases. They where trying to get them out for years. He even said they tried to make noise early in the morning and such with the hopes they would drop their lease. Nothing they ever did would get the people to leave though. I would be curious on what condition Mr. Nelson got to be able to ignore the current long lease and extend it for just six months. Of course, most of this is if the property manager was telling the whole story. He seemed pretty reliable though on what he talked about though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterLine Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 It might be that the lease nullifies or retains a shelf-life on transfer of property ownership. I know a lot of stuff like leases retain grandfathering, but it might have been in their lease that the property was only leased while current ownership retained the property, or some other clause allowing new ownership to either renew the lease, or boot them. Not really too sure, but sounds like that could be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therollercoasterblog Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I hope Waldameer really does some good things with that land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I hope Waldameer really does some good things with that land. I'm with you. I liked the park and hope they can do some amazing things with the land they have acquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfelice Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Music Express Update: As some of you may have noticed, Waldameer has completed the assembly of their Bertazzon Music Express. The ride will be operating for a special season passholder only event Saturday December 22, 2012. A few things about this ride/new area: Waldameer has it programmed to the highest/fastest ride program possible (13.5 rpm both directions). I do not lie on the speed as the operator booth has a gauge that shows the speed changes. The rather high 52" height requirement comes from the manufacturer when the speed is set that fast. You will experience some pops of airtime (I sure did). I personally thought most Music Express rides were just ok, but this one is intense! The LED lighting package is spectacular. The LED lighting package to be installed on Scrambler right in front of Music Express will be spectacular as well. Closing out on the LEDs, there will be an LED-lit fountain in the area (LEDs are just plain cool). If you have been to Waldameer before, you will notice the area between the Train and Dodgem is completely reconfigured. Here are some videos: Ride operating: Lighting package: P.S.: Initial reports of the retracking performed on Ravine Flyer II indicate a ride as smooth as, if not smoother than, when it opened in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geauga Dog Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 ^Thanks for the update. They still plan on operating it even with the snow? Is this fast speed going to be just for tomorrow or will it run that way next summer? A 52" height limit does not make it a family friendly ride so I wonder how fast does a Musik Express have to go in order to lower the height limit. Either way this is a fantastic addition to the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfelice Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Snow is no barrier. I will be personally operating it tomorrow. Music Express is being marketed as an intense thrill ride for older kids. The maximum speed will be used through the season unless other circumstances arise. There are three programs, so if we went from the third to the second program, we can use a 48" height requirement like Seabreeze uses for their Bertazzon model. Both Morey's Piers and the former Seaside models operate with the 52" requirement like Waldameer will use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal1br3tto Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Neat that they will be operating it so fast! The height requirement does seem a bit high for what I usually think of as a family ride, but I know it's for good cause. Maybe next year I can check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterGuy06 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 That's strange. At Alabama Adventure we operated our Bertazzon Music Express with a 36" accompanied/52" alone requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Thanks AJ for the information. I was wondering why this one had a 52" height and that makes sense. I would be curious to see if thy adjust the ride cycle after a season or two if the lines are not as long due to the higher requirement. Are they planning on keeping the ride assembled all winter or are they winterizing it after today? I nice heavy snow may wreck havoc on the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GayCoasterGuy Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The ride looks great! I was wondering why the backs have "high backs" attached to them - I guess they're needed since the ride is running on an intense program? I love these rides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 ^That is s stock photo from the manufacturer. It does not look like the one they installed have the high backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GayCoasterGuy Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 ^Thanks for cluing me in on that. Having never been to Waldameer, I didn't know what it should look like. That picture did seem a little 'gravel-y' to me. That thing is really goin fast! Now I'm curious who Mr. Nelson is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 NP, Mr Nelson is the owner of the park. I meet him last year and seems like a very passionate guy in regards to the park. He is the older guy riding in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Finn Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I am always impressed with Waldameer's consistent additions. The park is not so slowly making itself known. A wave pool in 2014 is sure to be a huge hit, and they are truly marketing this Musik Express as a thrill ride. It costs more 'points' than most rides at the park (and I think all flats). I am most definitely heading back this summer for the third year in a row, hoping Ravine Flyer is back up to opening day condition. I just love this park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitterOldHag Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Video of the ride in action from this past Saturday. MUCH faster than I expected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfelice Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Hurricane Sandy was not kind to roller coasters. One of the largest, if not the largest, trees in the park fell onto a newly re-tracked section on Ravine Flyer II. Once some of the crew can return from their project Wisconsin to fix it, Ravine Flyer II should be ready to go for Opening Day on May 11. I didn't share the story with TPR back then as I wasn't sure if the park was ready to share. Sure enough, several months later, Waldameer shared some pictures on their Facebook page of the damage as well as the retracking. The pictures below focus in on the damage from the fallen tree. Re-tracking pictures in this album: Courtesy of Waldameer's Facebook Courtesy of Waldameer's Facebook The New View of RFII's lift hill. Taken on my Droid Friday March 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid21 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 It's good to see that the coaster will be running. Those are some hard pictures to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Wow, I bet that would have been a lot worse if the structure was wood and not metal. On a side note about Waladameer. Screascape reported the other day that the Wave Pool and other waterpark upgrades may be delayed until 2015. They did not have a source stated, so I am not sure how true that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCT3Bross Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 ^ They sure are lucky with the steel structure, it would literally had a chunk in the track and fixing that won't be easy. But Looking at the pictures (painfully) the damage seems contained to the catwalks and railings, the track seems to be okay but that's how I see it in the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 In this day, I'm surprised this info did not leak out earlier. BTW - I don't think the damage would have been considerable worse if the structure was wood, but I'm not a materials engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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