robbalvey Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 The Japan 4d train was at magic about 2 weeks ago testing on X. From reports of some people, the trains did really s*****. Really? That's not what I heard at all. I can't go into details, but I didn't hear about the entire train actually being on site. Parts, maybe, but not a train. --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I can't imagine there is a lot of love between S&S/Arrow and SFMM with all the legal battling that went on over X so it seems a little odd that they would be testing new hardware cooperatively. But then again if this is true and design improvements are out there what's good for the Fuji Q 4D could be good for X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VEKOMA6382 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I can't imagine there is a lot of love between S&S/Arrow and SFMM with all the legal battling that went on over X so it seems a little odd that they would be testing new hardware cooperatively. But then again if this is true and design improvements are out there what's good for the Fuji Q 4D could be good for X. SFMM and S&S have a good relationship seeing as how they are rehabbing one of X's trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DATman Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 ^just because they are doing rehabs doesn't mean that they have a good relationship. I just can't wait to see the layout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 I don't think that SFMM will get any negative effects from having another 4D halfway across the world!!! The fact is, 99% of the people that go to SFMM will never even have heard there's another one, let alone go and ride it! 99% of the people that go to SFMM probably haven't even heard of Japan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niiicolaaah Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 the hamtaro coaster is really birdmen in disguise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollerdude Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Is that like an inside joke or something? Anyway, the suspense is barely killing me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 ^just because they are doing rehabs doesn't mean that they have a good relationship. I just can't wait to see the layout! S&S is a different company from the former Arrow. Plus I think all S&S bought from Arrow were the designs, and the rights to the 4D coaster. Besides, its not that SFMM would have anything against arrow, its just that they didn't deliver a quality product, and in retrun it cost them millions just to try and fix. If anything, it would just be that one ride in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I think there's just a LITTLE more to the fourth dimensional coaster story than that, but let's just say SFMM pushed Arrow a little too far a little too fast for development and things basically hit the fan real quick. When that happened, Arrow, for the second time in its life filed for bankrupcy but before that could happen S&S bought them out. In case some of you don't already know, there's hundreds of Arrow rides around the world and they all still need spare parts. Bearing that in mind, it's a great idea to tap into a market that could've died so easily just like how Arrow did. On top of that, S&S took over development as far as I know and basically said "you're S&S now, all your base belong to us" and they now do S&S attractions only... up until now I suppose though. I think it'd be a wise business idea to maybe not chuck out blueprints to a revolutionary type of roller-coaster huh? Look forward to seeing some more photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sound Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 ^ me to. As an Australian, its good having an amazing coaster nearby (well, i hope its amazing) Parking lot coaster? Not really. It is going in the area previously occupied by Double Loop, a Meisho that had trees and whatnot in it's interior. This one has a bigger footprint and extends slightly into the employee lot. Even if there is zero theming, this park will at least place sod and trees around the ride. Fujiyama was also placed in the main parking lot, but it has recieved landscaping immediately after completion. Chris B And Chris, i think that was a bit of a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiCoastal Kid Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Is that like an inside joke or something? Nope, the Hamtaro coaster was previously called something along the lines of Birdman or whatever, which was kind of like a kiddie flyer, but was later rehabbed into a rather tame suspended ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V2-dude Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 It was changed because of an accident. I wish it were still a flyer though, sorry elissa, but Hamtaro sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niiicolaaah Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ah, I wanted to ride birdmen. oh well. I probably won't ever go to japan anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Teaser in Japanese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Rodder Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Even though I'm not a big coaster fan (yet)... That looks Really cool! Wait. Arrow doesn't exist anymore? Aww.. *is clueless* EDIT: *looks at Arrow site* Wow! I hope S&S Doesn't cease to fix all the arrow coasters out there..! :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezus Juice Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Wow! I hope S&S Doesn't cease to fix all the arrow coasters out there..! That's pretty much the whole reason S&S aquired Arrow, for their lucritive parts and matainence catalog. And don't worry, it took some time but I made the transition from ADD/RADP Pinhat wearing Disneyland Goon to full-fledged coaster tool. It was pretty painful and I have some scars but I do get to go to a lot more parks now! Just trade in your pin vest for a patch jacket and join the fun! -Don "No longer just 'DCADon'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I'm really curious as to what the trains will look like... What changes, exactly were made by S&S to X's trains to finally get it to run most of the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sound Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 ^hey yeah, since its S&S arrow now, the cras will probably be really cool (even though 4th dimension cars lok cool anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiCoastal Kid Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Well, for one, they won't have an X on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 This 4-D is rumored to have a Full-Full flip, where the track and seats do a 360 flip at the same time. A bit like the half-half on X, but you can work that out easy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJackson Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Wait. Arrow go bye-bye? No more hypers like Magnum XL-200 popping up? That's bad. But also no more Headbangers like Great American Scream Machine at SFGAd popping up, as with corkscrews? That's good. Well, lets leave it to Vekoma I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Fan Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Wait. Arrow go bye-bye? Only like 4 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texflags Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 We also have Morgan to make hypers like Magnum XL-200. I'll be most likely taking a trip to Japan to meet my grandmother half-way and bring her back. But we'll be going earlier, so that we can visit LaQua(Thunder Dolphin), Nagashima Spaland (Steel Dragon[if it opens] and Ultra Twister[sFoT didn't get it, SFFT didn't either, Astroworld has to give it] , and Fujikyu Highlands(Dodonpa and "SUrPriSe"). The trip is already upsetting because Steel Dragon is still expected to be closed. If this "surprise" isn't a 4-D Coaster, then the trip will be ruined again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCOSurfer90 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 ^Well...Morgan doesnt make coasters anymore..at least i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Oh yeah, they still make 'em. http://www.chancemorgan.com/coasters3.html Although I think the Steel Dragon incident may have hurt sales. New in '04 was Superman, which opened at SF Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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