Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

[teacherkim]

17 hours ago, Danrarbc said:

Based on how things seem to be setting up for 2026 I’d wager it’ll either work at all or work at only the home park. 
 

It doesn’t make any amount of sense, IMO, to maintain a special ‘legacy only’ mode in the new unified system for only one pass type. It just doesn’t. That said - doesn’t mean they didn’t do just that. I’m just saying it’d be way easier to just add the IDs for membership as is across the board. Less effort. Less testing. Less to go wrong. More customer satisfaction when everything just works everywhere. They’d actually have to expend effort to make it work only at Legacy Six Flags after the system is unified. 
 

Long story short I suspect that they’re wrong about this. 

Yeah........I suspect you are right because that all makes a lot of sense. Hence my skepticism from the start.

[SixFlagsOMA80]

I’ve spoken to 15 ppl both at corporate and local parks, including a response from Park Manager of the Texas parks. Legacy dinning and benefits will be valid at all parks including the cedar side. 

[teacherkim]

On 8/30/2025 at 1:56 PM, SixFlagsOMA80 said:

I’ve spoken to 15 ppl both at corporate and local parks, including a response from Park Manager of the Texas parks. Legacy dinning and benefits will be valid at all parks including the cedar side. 

Well if Jeffrey said so then that should be the definitive statement! I also 100% believe that the right hand and the left hand have no idea each other exist right now and that a different customer service rep would have very likely given me a different answer.

[teacherkim]

So some reporting from the ACE event last Saturday at the park: (and keep in mind I am just the messenger here)

Screamin' Eagle was down for a lift hill motor issue. Awaiting parts, could be several weeks. Bummer for sure.

All the other coasters were running two trains which was really nice on a low attendance day. Beautiful weather but after Labor Day and before FF so not a huge crowd there. Even so the park very generously added a second coaster and a second hour to ert for the group of 49 attending the event. It was Freeze and Thunder plus snacks.

They gave us a nice long walk back of the Boss including a chance to climb part way up the stairs leading down from the mid course brake to get a very cool view of the coaster in action. I've done it before but it isn't always offered.

Log Flume had a mechanical problem with the right side of the flume and was running the seldom used left side instead, which was kind of a nice treat. For those that don't know they don't often have the staff and/or crowds for both sides and usually run the right side as it is way easier to load fast pass and ada riders. They did have some temp tiny bridges to accommodate those riders.

JL running the best all season that I have experienced. Fire effect back on and mostly working as intended. Final screen still f**ked up.

Everything else running normally except TS and Spinsanity of course. And I really don't remember about Fireball, I don't usually pay any attention to it.

All the FF props up and ready to go and we did see what were clearly FF cast members getting a walk around as some sort of training. At one point I did see them go to the little show area for the train so MAYBE something related to FF is going to happen there?

We got a twilight group ride on the carousel. The horses are magnificent and the craftsmanship really shines through. The chariots are not yet on and are still being restored which explains the mysterious fb post regarding the "real opening". I was told by management that the reason they went ahead and opened it without the chariots was as compensation for the fact that the Joker funhouse part of the queue has never opened. Although I thought that a bit of a strange connection. The reason for the funhouse not yet being open is also apparently missing parts................no elaboration on what those parts might be.

At lunch I talked to 2 members of the management team. One is the new entertainment manager. He is from the area originally but spent most of his career at SFFT, but he and his wife recently moved back. He stated that there would be enhancements to the entertainment for next year and that this was already underway. He also told us that park management was lobbying for new rides(s) and other improvements with Coaster Con 2027 in mind since SFSTL is one of the host parks for that. Of course he had a crowd that wanted to hear that, we'll see. Asked two different management bigwigs about the whole food issue with the legacy memberships. One told me that he flat out had no idea, the other just repeated the all add-ons will be good at all parks line. Of course these aren't add-ons they were included as part of the memberships and I know they aren't all the same. Bottom line - it will simply be a try it and see if it works situation next year.

I was told they were well aware of the 50th anniversary of  Eagle next year and that they are "working on plans to celebrate". Again, we'll see but they did promise to keep the organization in the loop.

[Sportsdude360]

Well, the park is in desperate need of a new coaster. So, let's hope the new ride(s) the park management is lobbying for aren't just used flats.

[teacherkim]

On 9/13/2025 at 4:01 PM, Sportsdude360 said:

Well, the park is in desperate need of a  new coaster. So let's hope the new ride(s) the park management is lobbying for aren't just used flats.

As I have said, if you look at the area encompassing Ninja, the former paint ball field, Buccaneer (easily moved), the arcade which kind of sucks now anyway, the old Chevy building (only used for storage now), Tsunami Soaker and its gift shop, the former old time photo building, Spinsanity (also easily moved); there is kind of a lot of room there. Granted that would be a huge project that probably isn't going to happen and Chop Six and the Empire might be a bit in the way..........................still, if you're going to dream might as well dream big, lol. Also, Ninja while not super popular at this point is apparently a maintenance dream that almost never has issues. Annoying.

[SteveStL]

Any new coaster install should utilize the East Side of the Park, behind HH upwards towards the Boneyard.  It's time to expand the park's footprint.

[liltrekkie]

As much as I would love a new coaster, and I'm normally full on that train ride, I'm going to say instead of expanding the footprint, which I believe needs to be done anyway, the park has a lot of wasted space right now. xcalibur is an empty space. And so is where tidal wave is.

 

The back half of the park seems rather empty. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I would love a new giga or hyper or something along those lines. But let's fill in the space we have already first. 

[SteveStL]

We'll probably get a flat from SFA, would not surprise me.

[Sportsdude360]

3 hours ago, liltrekkie said:

As much as I would love a new coaster, and I'm normally full on that train ride, I'm going to say instead of expanding the footprint, which I believe needs to be done anyway, the park has a lot of wasted space right now. xcalibur is an empty space. And so is where tidal wave is.

 

The back half of the park seems rather empty. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I would love a new giga or hyper or something along those lines. But let's fill in the space we have already first. 

A giga or hyper would run $20-30 million, assuming you want something worth riding. I'm not sure the park would receive that large of an investment under SF's current financial situation. Having said that, a smaller dive coaster along the lines of Iron Menace or Dr. D might just be possible.

[liltrekkie]

16 minutes ago, Sportsdude360 said:

A giga or hyper would run $20-30 million, assuming you want something worth riding. I not sure the park would receive that large of an investment under SF's current financial situation. Having said that, a smaller dive coaster along the lines of Iron Menace or Dr. D might just be possible.

I have big dreams for our park. I prefer to think I could see it happening. The ROI is probably on the lower end and would take more time to earn back. It's probably why it hasn't happened yet.

[parkjunkie]

1 hour ago, liltrekkie said:

As much as I would love a new coaster, and I'm normally full on that train ride, I'm going to say instead of expanding the footprint, which I believe needs to be done anyway, the park has a lot of wasted space right now. xcalibur is an empty space. And so is where tidal wave is.

 

The back half of the park seems rather empty. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I would love a new giga or hyper or something along those lines. But let's fill in the space we have already first. 

I used to have dreams like that years ago, but truthfully, I'd LOVE something like AlpenFury... something along those lines would be great for our park, but I'll be holding my breath for a long long long long long time

[Sportsdude360]

12 hours ago, liltrekkie said:

I have big dreams for our park. I prefer to think I could see it happening. The ROI is probably on the lower end and would take more time to earn back. It's probably why it hasn't happened yet.

Your dreams are not in question. Corporate dreams, on the other hand, may be slightly smaller than yours.

[SteveStL]

Anyone know the real details regarding Spinsanity?  Down all season, what's the deal?

And hopefully Tsunami Soaker gets removed soon. it's beginning to rival the old Barrell ride SBNO status.

This is the type of thing that makes SFSTL look bad.  SBNO rides and empty lots surrounded by fences.  

 

[prozach626]

giga coaster lol

[teacherkim]

Look I know the odds are against us but I am curious about 1) Is the park management REALLY making a big pitch, or was the person that was talking to us just selling what he knew we wanted to buy? 2) IF he is making a legit pitch, does said park management have any power/sway with corporate? 3)And what do they envision as a cool new ride? That can be pretty subjective, lol.

I like that for the most part everyone on here wants something good to happen for the park. Some of us more optimistic than others but that's probably a general personality thing. In the end time will tell, it's just that the waiting is hell.

[Sportsdude360]

55 minutes ago, teacherkim said:

Look I know the odds are against us but I am curious about 1) Is the park management REALLY making a big pitch, or was the person that was talking to us just selling what he knew we wanted to buy? 2) IF he is making a legit pitch, does said park management have any power/sway with corporate? 3)And what do they envision as a cool new ride? That can be pretty subjective, lol.

I like that for the most part everyone on here wants something good to happen for the park. Some of us more optimistic than others but that's probably a general personality thing. In the end time will tell, it's just that the waiting is hell.

The odds are against you receiving any type of extravagant investment, I'm talking $20 million upwards. So, unless corporate completely changes their thinking, anything along the lines of a hyper or giga would definitely be out. Having said that, an investment in the $10-12 million range is not entirely impossible.    

[liltrekkie]

1 hour ago, teacherkim said:

Look I know the odds are against us but I am curious about 1) Is the park management REALLY making a big pitch, or was the person that was talking to us just selling what he knew we wanted to buy? 2) IF he is making a legit pitch, does said park management have any power/sway with corporate? 3)And what do they envision as a cool new ride? That can be pretty subjective, lol.

I like that for the most part everyone on here wants something good to happen for the park. Some of us more optimistic than others but that's probably a general personality thing. In the end time will tell, it's just that the waiting is hell.

It would depend how Six flags allocates it's budgets. Rides are a capital expense. Known as capex. I imagine that when they create their budgets for the next fiscal year, they do take park management requests into consideration. It would be silly not to, otherwise why else would you have a park manager if not to advocate for the park?

[prozach626]

SFSTL got Rookie Racer in 2023. If modern history repeats itself, the park has another 5-8 years before it gets any additional roller coasters if it's not sold off or closed by then.

American Thunder: 2008

Boomerang: 2013

Rookie Racer: 2023

It has been 17 years since SFSTL has had back to back mildly exciting roller coasters added. They  will have major infrastructure improvements like adding kitchen appliances three times until then.

Anyone can have their own opinion, but that's where I'm putting my money.

[SteveStL]

Add More Fencing!!