RissaBooBissa Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Pulling up to the park now. Looks weird without chute out and flashback! Will try and get some pics of construction (if any). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RissaBooBissa Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 As you can see... they've made huge progress with construction (sarcasm). This is the closest you can get to where Chute out and Flashback was. All of Gotham City is blocked off by walls! haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlittle Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 ^ thanks for the update, but for some reason I want Subway now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOverTexasFan Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 What do you guys think.....I'm excited for Skyscreamer and I think it will be a great addition to the park. However I would love to see a new coaster come soon. Do you guys think the park may add a coaster in 2014 where the closed mini mall is and Flashbacks old spot, or market new shows for 2014 since they are spending a bunch for Skyscreamer in 2013? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaminkid2005 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) I don't know what it is about Star Flyers but every time I ride one, I freak out! I can assure you I will cry on this ride! Edited December 9, 2012 by screaminkid2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsdude360 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 What do you guys think.....I'm excited for Skyscreamer and I think it will be a great addition to the park. However I would love to see a new coaster come soon. Do you guys think the park may add a coaster in 2014 where the closed mini mall is and Flashbacks old spot, or market new shows for 2014 since they are spending a bunch for Skyscreamer in 2013? That's what the park staff keeps telling me. The park is supposedly getting a new coaster within the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOverTexasFan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Cool. I hope its a wing coaster...those things look amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy* Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Anyone know if construction has moved foward with Sky Screamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameraman Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 There were some parts in the parking lot. I assume it's skyscreamer? Not sure. New Texas Giant was trying out some weird loading scheme. The gates were blocked off and seats were being assigned one row at a time with the train loading while moving similar to Rockit at Universal except without a moving platform obviously. It was very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlittle Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 New Texas Giant was trying out some weird loading scheme. The gates were blocked off and seats were being assigned one row at a time with the train loading while moving similar to Rockit at Universal except without a moving platform obviously. It was very strange. ^ could you please explain this a little more? That doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameraman Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The train itself would move down the station while loading. The first row would unlock and the riders would exit, incoming riders would then take their seats simultaneously. And this would go on for each row of the train until the entire train had been loaded. This would take place at the back of the station and once the train was completely loaded it would stop at the front of the station until the ride ops pressed the dispatch button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsdude360 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 That doesn't make sense. It also sounds dangerous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggernel Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The train itself would move down the station while loading. The first row would unlock and the riders would exit, incoming riders would then take their seats simultaneously. And this would go on for each row of the train until the entire train had been loaded. This would take place at the back of the station and once the train was completely loaded it would stop at the front of the station until the ride ops pressed the dispatch button. Did it seem to speed things up at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lareson Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 That would explain why the control panel had individual buttons for each car to unlock the lap bars. Must of been planning on it from the beginning but couldn't decide when to start implementing it yet. This to me just sounds like an ops nightmare. Sure it may seem slightly more efficient, but the part that's going to be the issue is the assigning of seats. Personally not a fan of that on large capacity coasters, of course there are those exceptions like Maverick that should do it to help move things along on that ride. Mainly is going to be those stubborn people that are going to purposely hold up the line so they can get the seat they want. The train is basically crawling as it comes into the station, believe it's less than 1 MPH, so it's not like it's flying through it. I'd have to see how it's done to get a more thorough explanation on what they're doing. I guess it does make the line seem like it's moving faster as it's moving at a steady pace vs stopping and moving by 24 people each train dispatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardwalkbullet91507 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 That is STUPID! But, I could see them doing it like this on a busy day, and then like normal on a slower day with preferred seating. But then this could take forever too. You have to wait for each individual person to go and put their stuff in the cubby, then get back in, then pull down the harness. Then the ops have to check the harness, and repeat another 11 times. Sounds like a nightmare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewRnR Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 ^^ Most coasters have a button for each row. It works fairly well for Rip Ride Rockit here in Orlando so I don't see why it can't be used (or at least tested) elsewhere as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yeti Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) The ops could stand in the same place and check the seat belts as the seated riders roll by...I think the biggest issue here is with loose articles, though. If people still have to walk across a moving train to get to a bin, that could be a problem. Now if they enforce a policy similar to Rock It in which guests must use lockers prior to entering the queue, that would solve many problems. When I rode NTAG in August, they had a running count of lost loose articles and cell phones (maybe just for the year) up in the two thousands. **Wow, I didn't know actual word filters existed That would explain why the control panel had individual buttons for each car to unlock the lap bars. I think that would be convenient with any coaster in loading situations. I feel like most B&M coasters have buttons to unlock specific rows. I've seen many times on different B&M coasters in which a rider was too big to fit in the seat they chose, so the restraints in that row were unlocked so the rider could board in a different row the next time. Yet I don't see what was wrong with the loading system when I visited the park, so I don't see the need to implement this procedure. Edited December 10, 2012 by The Yeti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlittle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 That seems like an odd thing to do on NTAG. I could maybe see it help out on a busy day. I wonder how much faster this system of loading is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I feel that a system like this would only work with an efficient, caring, well-trained staff. From my experience, most ride ops at SFOT have none of these qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lareson Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I guess I'm used to wooden coasters or some older steel coasters where the only options on a control panel are either the whole train is locked or unlocked, or a seat had to be manually unlocked, either by a pedal or pull-up device. Never saw a B&M panel close-up but I guess now that I think about it, I've always heard them unlocking one car instead of the whole train. Cell phones and other small articles are probably the most common lost article on a coaster. Ever seen Diamonback's cell phone casket? I think they stopped putting devices in there in 2010 cause it filled up pretty quick. The only issue I see this kind of system having is Flash Pass. Having them go in single-file onto the train means that they're literally cutting in front of people, which could cause issues. At least with allowing a couple trains of people stand in the station, that at least isn't as bad. I guess having experience working on a coaster, this kind of things run around in my head. Doing this on a coaster that has a 24 person capacity train, vs 12 people per train on Rip, Ride, Rockit just seems weird to me. I know this kind of system works well for small capacity coasters like many mouse coasters and such, but never on this large of scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggernel Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The only issue I see this kind of system having is Flash Pass. Having them go in single-file onto the train means that they're literally cutting in front of people, which could cause issues. At least with allowing a couple trains of people stand in the station, that at least isn't as bad. And why couldn't they just have a merge point back a little ways in line? Seems to work fine on almost all of the Flash Pass rides at Great America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardwalkbullet91507 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 ^^^ ...and only let in a certain number of people into the station at one time. First let in a few flash passers, then some more people in the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonR Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 All I know it I stood in line for Giant about 15 minutes before leaving yesterday. One train operation on the most popular ride in the park on a weekend? Are you kidding me? And to top it off this new loading scheme must have been slowing things down even further, as there was consistently at LEAST a 5 minute delay between the train arriving at the station and it leaving again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 If this somehow gets them to run three trains without stacking, I'm for it. But....I don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joco07 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 There were some parts in the parking lot. I assume it's skyscreamer? Not sure. That would be Flashbacks ride track and supports they have been painted Green (track) and orange (supports) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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