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Over/under that this will become a Harry potter attraction?

T2:3D isn't anywhere near any of the Potter lands so I'd say it's pretty unlikely. Also, Potter isn't a "Universal franchise" which is what it said in the announcement.

 

My apologies. Didn't see the "Universal franchise" part on Twitter.

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The announcement states that the replacement will be a "live action experience". Combined with the size and shape of the building makes me think Terminator will be replaced with a show. Live action also seems to imply actors so I do not believe this will be an attraction based on a 3D or animated movie.

 

My guess is either a show similar to Terminator which features live actors combined with a 3D movie, or a stage show of some kind. Bourne is a Universal property, but at the same time so is Pitch Perfect.

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So. I was at IOA on Monday, and while I had a great time, I had some awesome, fun, sad, and memorable rides on Dragons.

 

First and foremost, the line was the typical station wait most of the day. It started picking up later in the day.

 

Our first ride was on Horntail(Ice) in row 8. This was probably the BEST ride I have ever had on the dragons out of all the times I had ever been to IOA. It was so smooth, and the cobra roll wasn't as jerky as I remembered it being on some of my previous rides.

 

Next we rode Fireball(Fire) in row 1. Other than what felt like a bad road wheel, it was a great ride, with the usual snap at the top of the second immelman. Still a very smooth ride.

 

I took a couple people who had never been, and they couldn't understand why they are removing such a smooth and fun roller coaster.

 

The longest we waited was either for River Adventure, or Kong. Both had 20 to 30 minute waits. Not sure which one was longer.

 

We made a loop around the park, and ended the day with a mini Dragon marathon that was interrupted by a storm that lasted from about 6:30 until after 8 pm. They finally got the ride cleared to reopen after the storm passed, and we waited it out.

 

Finally, we got the last public train on Fireball! Such an awesome ride!

 

It was very sad for me as someone who loves B&M's. I could not imagine Kings Island closing Banshee. I would be devastated.

 

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I'm disappointed yet again that they couldn't just announce T2 and Dragons at the same time as well as some hard details about what is coming next, but at least something with 3D glasses is closing. I'm on board with Universal but hot damn they are making it difficult to stay on the train with so much crap being put out. Fallon is terrible, Fast and Furious is going to be exactly the same as Kong, which is a very forgettable ride experience. Closing one of their top 5 park attractions for dubious reasoning, Closing T2 terminator probably because it's one of the only 3D rides that requires actors and maintenance of live effects. Volcano Bay is nothing like the "World Class never before seen water theme park" they promised and its system is chaotic.

 

HHN is kind of copy-paste from year to year but at least the number of Houses is up to 9 now and the quality holds steady, but being the Final year of Bill and Ted i'm honestly way off the fence for next year's edition already.

 

As much as it should be appreciated that they are actively trying to improve the resort, Basically everything since Diagon Alley (where the Gringott's ride has screen-itis anyways) is really not living up to any hype, and isn't any good at all in some cases. I wonder if this will actually affect attendance and profits at some point.

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What would've been cool with Dragon Challenge is if they put VR Goggles

There is never a scenario where putting VR Goggles on a coaster makes it "cool."

 

I couldn't agree more, VR on coasters is a terrible trend and I really hope it dies out soon. Having ridden both VR New Revolution and VR Kraken, I can honestly say that the VR experience is vastly inferior to riding these coasters normally. I thought Kraken was better than TNR, but the headsets were heavy, uncomfortable, and made loading the trains a nightmare.

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What would've been cool with Dragon Challenge is if they put VR Goggles

There is never a scenario where putting VR Goggles on a coaster makes it "cool."

 

I couldn't agree more, VR on coasters is a terrible trend and I really hope it dies out soon. Having ridden both VR New Revolution and VR Kraken, I can honestly say that the VR experience is vastly inferior to riding these coasters normally. I thought Kraken was better than TNR, but the headsets were heavy, uncomfortable, and made loading the trains a nightmare.

 

 

I've heard that with the lockers, The capacity outweighed it's demand. And VR would help solving the demand.

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[i've heard that with the fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo, The capacity outweighed it's demand. And VR would help solving the demand.

OK, let me just clear something up here...

 

"Long lines" is NOT synonymous for "guest satisfaction." The two are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT things. I'm so sick of people saying "oh, Dragons didn't have that long of a line anymore, that's why they took it out."

 

Dragons didn't have a long line because it wasn't popular or people didn't like the ride, Dragons didn't have a long line because it pushes through THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE PER HOUR!!!

 

We even just had one of the Attraction Tech Supervisors post on our social media saying how they didn't need most of the queue that was built in the beginning because the ride had a capacity of "thousands per hour!"

 

Now, it didn't help that Universal installed the lockers and metal detectors and created a hassle to even ride the coaster. It also didn't help that they built giant walls hiding the coaster or a really lame and boring ride entrance that a lot of people completely missed.

 

Personally I think all of this was done on purpose because it's no secret that JK Rowling never liked Dueling Dragons and I think if she had her way it would have been gone in 2010.

 

But please stop with this fake news "Oh, people didn't like it anymore and it didn't have a long line crap" because that's not true at all. Stand by the exit of the ride and people would come off LOVING it. I just don't think Universal wanted people to even find the ride to begin with so that way it would make it easier to get rid of it later on down the road.

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The only version of it I saw and experienced, was at Universal Japan, in Osaka.

 

Couldn't understand a word, but the actors were so over the top, their physical & facial reactions

made it just as crazy funny to myself, as as it did the locals. I just wish I understood Japanese.

 

But I would see it again, even if I still didn't completely understand it, heh.

 

And now I wish I did get to see (and hear) this version.

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Personally I think all of this was done on purpose because it's no secret that JK Rowling never liked Dueling Dragons and I think if she had her way it would have been gone in 2010.

 

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was in their contract to have it removed within 10 years...which this would fall under at this point.

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I'm sure going to miss the Dragons. I was lucky enough that in 2002 when I was 10 years old my parents planned a 4 day Disney Vacation for me and my (at the time) 8 year old sister. I was a small thrill seeker and somehow I convinced my parents to ditch our day at Animal Kingdom and buy tickets for Universal/Islands of Adventure instead because I wanted to ride Dueling Dragons. I got 1 ride on Fire & 1 ride on Ice and those two rides were honestly the highlight of my entire vacation.

 

Fast forward to now I'm heading down to Florida on the September 25th this year. My friends & I had this trip planned since January so I was really looking forward to riding the dragons again after all these years and multiple trips to Florida since without visiting Islands of Adventure. For 10 year old me those were my favorite coasters at the time, and I still vividly remember the near misses in the vertical loops. I'm sad to see them go and wasn't able to get one more ride on them. We'll see what the future holds for expansion, but I think the dragons will be hard to top.

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My guess for the replacement of T2:3D is that it will be part of the future Nintendo Land. It appears that the current Woody Woodpecker Kid Zone and T2:3D could be combined together for a giant patch of land for Mario, Link, and Donkey Kong.

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Terminator 2: 3-D at Universal Studios Florida will run its last shows on Sunday, October 8 to make way for an all-new live action experience based on a high-energy Universal franchise. It will open in 2019. This is one of many exciting new experiences coming to Universal Orlando Resort as we continue our epic growth. Stay tuned – more details will be released soon.
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I remember when Terminator was fairly new at USH and thinking it was really a lot of fun. When I went to UOR for the first time in February of this year, Terminator stuck out to me as being very retro in comparison with the rest of the park. I remember thinking to myself "wow, they either need to do a major refurb on this or replace it, cuz it does not vibe well with everything else." I'm glad they at least made the decision.

 

The other attraction that stuck out to me was E.T. I really hope that one sticks around for a while, because it's so charming, but it also needs a lot of work to rise up to the standard of the newer attractions.

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^I guess that i missed that part...

 

But the positioning of T2:3D and Woody Woodpecker Kids Zone actually works (at least per the park map). I thought that I was onto something...

 

Unless they were to remove ET and that backstage area behind it, it wouldn't work.

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My guess for the replacement of T2:3D is that it will be part of the future Nintendo Land. It appears that the current Woody Woodpecker Kid Zone and T2:3D could be combined together for a giant patch of land for Mario, Link, and Donkey Kong.

Nintendo Land is going here:

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There is already more than enough room to work with there and T2 isn't anywhere near this area.

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^I don't have a link of course, but also the animal actors stage is a goner and will be the main entrance for Nintendo land according to that extremely detailed map leak from earlier this year. And also it doesn't go back so far. ET was perfectly safe as well. That leak was also scrubbed from the internet in like 2 days.

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^I don't have a link of course, but also the animal actors stage is a goner and will be the main entrance for Nintendo land according to that extremely detailed map leak from earlier this year. And also it doesn't go back so far. ET was perfectly safe as well. That leak was also scrubbed from the internet in like 2 days.

Thanks. My box was really just an approximate of where it would go. And really, it does show just how much room they DO have back there! Enough room for some really awesome physical non-screen based rides!

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