dc006f5086 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 What drop do you think is better oblivions drop or sheikras first drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maliboomer Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Well, Sheikra's drop is taller, steeper and has the same pause, it would seem obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc006f5086 Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 I know that but on watching on ride videos of both coasters, the drops seem like there identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twister II Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Well, Sheikra's drop is taller, steeper and has the same pause, it would seem obvious. They are the same steepness, both 90degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 ^Oblivion's drop is 87 degrees according to RCDB while Sheikra has a 90 degree drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jak Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Isn't oblivions drop something like 180 foot, only it goes underground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc006f5086 Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 Sheikras drop is 200 ft and 90 degrees. Oblivions drop is 60 ft above ground 120 ft below ground and its 87 degrees. But both drops last the same amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollercoasterTigger Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I thought Oblivion was 100ft above and then 80ft below. I think Oblivion has the better first drop, but Sheikra is the better ride. If that makes sense. The second drop on Sheikra is really good. Lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicko Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I've been on both and I would also say that the drop on Oblivion is better than Sheikra's because diving into the hole makes it so much better and plus you can't really tell the 3 degrees difference in them. But yeah overall Sheikra is the better ride just because it's longer and has an inversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Eraser Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I don't think Sheikra has a 90 degree drop. Back when Oblivion was being built, B&M said something about not being able to do a perfect 90 degree drop because of mechanical reasons. If the train dropped exactly 90 down, the car would fall unrestricted instead of riding on the rails. I can't recall the specifics though. I wish I could find that article now. BTW, I think Oblivion's drop is comparable to StormRunner's: they both have a straight, vertical 180 ft drops. I like StormRunner's much more because you race over the hill and get crazy air; whereas on Oblivion, you fall from a standstill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 That's a hard call. I'm really not a big fan of Oblivion because it's so damn short. But I will say that Shakira's drop in the THIRD ROW was really crazy, and that's something that Oblivion can't have. I would give the *slight* edge to Shakira. --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzo41190 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I have only been on Sheikra so I couldnt make a true call but I think that Sheikra is better. And I saw this because Sheikra does have a third row so if you sit in the back it is really insane. But Oblivion does have a tunnel, but so does Sheikra. I think that Oblivion is like the second have of Sheikra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezus Juice Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I think I like Oblivions drop better but Sheikra is definately a better ride. Racing underground after the drop on Oblivion is pretty sweet though. Oblivion only really does one thing, but it does it really well, as long as you don't have to wait 3 hours for it! -Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Yeah Shakira in the 3rd row is awesome! Oblivion doesn't have that sort of hang time! I like dropping into the hole on Oblivion and everything, but Shakira does that in its second drop so they're both pretty similar. Kip, I remember what you're talking about and I believe you're still correct, Shakira claims to have a 90 degree drop but it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Johnson Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Yeah I think SheiKra is either 88 or 89 degrees. Close enough that nobody would notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc006f5086 Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 I read that article aswell but i was not sure whether it was true or not. But i prefer oblivions drop, the dive into the hole is amazing, and the second drop of sheikra were it goes into the tunnel is a copy of oblivion same as g5 being a copy of oblivion, oblivion was the original and in every dive machine built there is something that is copied of oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I think it may be 90 because once the track starts to level out on the bottom of the drop its always some **klunk** like the wheels are starting to connect w/ the track again... does anyone else notice that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathmole Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Shakira claims to have a 90 degree drop but it's not. Same with Oblivion, "The World's fist vertical drop roller coaster" ... it is'nt vertical. Also, the video dude: "Freefall, straight down", it is'nt STRAIGHT down though, man, nit picking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterdude5 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 ^Yeah but if they're not either a coaster enthusiast or a math wiz, they probably won't notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willski Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Dive Machines aren't 90* because the trains would "hunt" for the track. Even with a spring-loaded suspension, the trains would not maintain solid contact with the track, causing horizontal shifting. I have been on both, and I must say: SheiKra>Oblivion (in overall ride experience) Oblivion's drop>SheiKra's drop (better theming around the drop, tunnel, and also it was before I became a jaded coaster enthusiast) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyT Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 i have heard that shakira has a special wheel system that keeps it from getting off the track on the first drop... as for the question, shakira rules!!! (just look @ my avatar... hehe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Johnson Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Well I bet SheiKra is more often mispelled than Oblivion. How many people keep calling it Shakira? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyT Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 well almost everyone obviously does it as a joke... me being one of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiBoii4392 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I think the Sheikra is better, because you can get a little of both oblivion and Sherikra itself, you have a drop that goes underground, and you have the drop that IS Sheikra, but from what I know, all the Oblivion does is drop underground and turn to the brake station, (correct me if I'm wrong) but sheikra has one inversion and a splash section, i dont mean to compete that strongly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbordisux Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 If a coaster can't fall at 90*, though, how does Intamin do it with their Top Hats? TTD doesn't fall at 90 degrees? It would seem awfully dangerous if it were truly free-falling from 400 feet in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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