Any coaster/attraction that was a mistake from day one?

[verticalzero]

The Pepsi Max Big One at Blackpool.. Bad layout/track design

[DenDen]

Nope, Magnum opened with upstop plates, which is hilarious because that means Arrow didn't think the ride would have airtime. I know it was the 80's but jeez, didn't they know the forces before they built it?

 

Still, gotta love Arrow! lmao

 

OK, I need an education, anyone have a picture of these upstop plates, and when were they installed?

[Teddymonster]

Don't think anyone's mentioned this yet...Viper at SFGAdv. Being that it's a Togo, it was intevitable that it was going to be bad. Can't think of a single worthy Togo in my book.

[Imhotep]

OK, I need an education, anyone have a picture of these upstop plates, and when were they installed?

 

I found an article on ultimate roller coaster:

 

It is interesting to note that during Magnum's first season it ran with upstop plates under the trains, much like the other large Arrow steel at the park, the Gemini. Upstop wheels replaced these plates the following season. This is one of those instances where you shake your head and wonder, "What were they thinking?!" Ron Toomer created lots of great coasters, but engineers had to wonder what was going on when they built the cars as if they were running on a mine train, not a 200-foot monster.

 

After searching rcdb, I think I found a picture. Its hard to see, but you can kind of see just a standard metal plate where the upstop wheels would be.

 

Edited September 13, 2005 by Imhotep

[jarmor]

Can't think of a single worthy Togo in my book.

I can the stand up's like shockwave at PKD!

[Imhotep]

^I was also going to say, I didnt think shockwave was that bad. The ride itself wasnt rough, it was the trains that were uncomfortable.

[DenDen]

^^^I need to reword the questions...

 

When where the upstop WHEELS installed on magnum? I know when the coaster itself was built, I was there as a graduation gift.

 

Does anyone have pictures of Magnum with the upstop plates?!?!

 

I have an undated photo, which i thought was from 1989, that shows wheels, not plates. (Yes, I found it. LOL)

[CoasterFanatic]

Pictures of Magnum's upstop plates are pretty hard to come by. I have never seen it in person, but I did see one picture once (can't remember where). You can still see the same upstops on the Gemini (unless they have been changed also).

 

The upstop wheels were added the first season (89?) at the same time as the following:

 

- Padding added to cars

- Seatbelts

- Anemometers added to lifthill (Car vallied between drops 1 and 2 due to wind)

 

About three years after it opened the 2nd drop was shortened.

 

Somewhere around 95-96, the Pretzel turnaround was modified considerable. I think some of the banking was actually taken out of it.

 

Hope this is fairly accurate and helps

Edited September 13, 2005 by CoasterFanatic

[Imhotep]

The article says magnum ran the first season with the plates, and they were added the following season. I dont know the exact date/year, but I tried to find an article that helped.

 

Also, since I couldnt find a pic of magnum with the upstop plates, I found a picture of a coaster with upstop plates, an arrow mine train. which in the article it says its the same plates arrow used on their mine trains.

 

Good luck finding your answers, sorry I couldnt help.

[Teddymonster]

Can't think of a single worthy Togo in my book.

I can the stand up's like shockwave at PKD!

Jarmor...can you read minds? I swear you can, because Shockwave at PKD was the ONE Togo I had in mind (aside from Viper). I HATE the Shockwave with a passion. I hope they tear the b*tch down, cause I will never miss it. Like I said in another post, any stand-up coaster with airtime, or in this case, bunnyhops, is a work of evil, sadistic Japanese engineers who enjoy making men (and women) sterile.

[jarmor]

uhhh...can you read post lol lol im not saying shockwave is a bad coaster, im saying its a good coaster!

[Teddymonster]

uhhh...can you read post lol lol im not saying shockwave is a bad coaster, im saying its a good coaster!

 

Uhhhh....I can read posts and am totally aware of you liking Shockwave. When I said Shockwave came to mind, it's because I don't like the ride.

Edited September 14, 2005 by Teddymonster

[SFMM rocks my socks]

X seemed to have some huge problems for the frist years

 

Flashback was a big mistake

 

Superman the Escape never seems to work right for more then a day

[Sir Clinksalot]

I have to take Jarmor's side on this one - I didn't really have any problems with Shockwave - you just need to be VERY careful how you stand before that thing locks into place, just like any other stand-ups.

 

Then again, I'm cool with being sterile.

[UberBeavis]

Cosmic Waves (or as it frequently became, Cosmic Bidet)

[freestylenut]

I'm surprised no one mentioned this yet, but its gotta be the Pteranadon Flyers at Islands Of Adventures. Stingy a$$ ride with really no thrillage whatsoever, short as hell, line is always LONG as hell, and is in a park with rides 20x better than it. 'nuff said.

[BiCoastal Kid]

^Almost every Caripro coaster is a failure... at life...

[bluemen]

As far as togo standups go, I've had one brilliant ride on Skyrider in Canada's Wonderland... insane air in the helix, powerful loop, air all over the place in the second half. The other 30 or so times I've ridden it it's been a steaming pile of crap. As far as sterilizing, as long as you treat it like a bike seat, you should be okay (barring enormity to the point of deformity)

 

I know Arrow pipelines were never really built--- but didn't they make one at their factory in Utah? That might be the most pointless coaster ever built.

 

Isn't Twister II @ SFEG a pretty rotten imitation of a coaster that already existed and was owned by the park?

 

Kings Island Bat is perhaps the most obvious poor planning, but didn't WOF put stand up trains on a corkscrew once? Another idiotic idea.

[Coastergenius250]

Hello, I would like you to post an idea of an amusement park that wasn't a good choice of them. posting a picture is optional, but please keep this clean and no fighting!

 

To get started, I think Holiday World should-have given up on the Timberliners for a long time,they needed to stop delaying because I knew they weren't going to do it!

Could they have done it?

[djboss302]

Three letters: SLC. Enough said.

[Ultimate]

Vertigo at Walibi Belgium.

[LoopScreweD]

The Deja Vus especcialy at Six Flags Great America for removing the fantastic Sky Whirl no matter how costly it was to maintain that's in the category of rides you don't remove. Right up their with racing wooden coasters I'm talking to you great adventure you suck.

[DarienLaker]

Six Flags renaming the former Tony Hawk coasters as "Pandemonium". Besides what does pandemonium have to with skateboarding ? Frankly I much rather have Six Flags either keep the "Big Spin" name (without Tony Hawk) or retheme the remaining American "Big Spin" coasters (SFOT, SFFT, and SFStL) as Joker (ala Six Flags Mexico).

[molemaster43]

^The only correlation it had with skateboarding was with Tony Hawk. There is really no evidence of any relation to skateboarding.

[JonnyRCT3]

Scream @SFMM.

 

Don't build a coaster for the sake of having yet another coaster. Especially when you put little effort into the ride itself. Like building it a parking lot, giving it a horrible name and letting it rot.